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#1 Kokirii

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 07:41 AM

Has anyone else noticed that the gamepad wasn't really featured in the E3 stuff so far?  I don't know how any of the new games make use of it and in general they just haven't seemed to talk to about it much.

 

What's the deal?

 

Maybe I've missed something and if so, could someone please point me in the right direction?  


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 07:55 AM

I have not seen much of it. Thats why I think even Nintendo doesn't know what to do with it. But hey, even if it was only for the offtv gaming, I would be happy with it.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:34 AM

The games do use the touch screen but Nintendo doesn't feel like there is a point in explaining its uses in the games they showed. They felt it was more important to just show the games, and that the only way to get the touchscreens importance across is just for one to experience it. Reggie explained this during the Nintendo Power Hour on Game Trailers. 


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:35 AM

they showed what it was used for in w101, mario kart and I remember seeing it in something else

 

regardless maybe devs will be less scared and realize you don't HAVE to use the gamepad in groundbreaking ways


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:41 AM

Off-TV play is practically all you need, but I agree. I was expecting the new 3D Mario to be somewhat similar in Gamepad use to Vita's Tearaway: using the touchscreen and other Gamepad stuff to manipulate the environment. Instead, we got NSMBU use put into a glorified 3D Land port. I think Nintendo is just trying to put these games out, so they haven't put much emphesis into Gamepad use. Next year will really show us what WiiU is capable of.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 01:46 PM

OP has a point, I hadn't noticed it but yeah, it really wasn't featured all that much, I think Nintendo might be running out of ideas.........



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 01:59 PM

I think Nintendo is trying to show that games don't have to use the gamepad... the Wiimotes or pro controllers are perfectly useable.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:13 PM

It's a missed opportunity imo , I love how its integrated into nintendo land and zombiU



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:17 PM

I don't think there is a point in showing the gamepad anymore unless it's something crazy new.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:16 PM

I don't think there is a point in showing the gamepad anymore unless it's something crazy new.

Agreed. Almost like how they stopped advertising the 3D in the 3DS so much



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:27 PM

Agreed. Almost like how they stopped advertising the 3D in the 3DS so much

 

Which is raises the question, did Nintendo really need to innovate with the Wii U? I always said a brand new HD Nintendo console with just a Pro Controller would have done the trick and they could have shifted focus else-where. Oh well- too late now. But like you said even the 3D in the 3DS advertising has been stopped. Maybe in the future we will see some real use of the gamepad.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:34 PM

I don't like forced gimmicky gameplay with every game. It would be fun in some games but if they all used it we would end up having another Wii situation.



OP has a point, I hadn't noticed it but yeah, it really wasn't featured all that much, I think Nintendo might be running out of ideas.........

Until there is Virtual Reality they need to focus on gameplay rather than gimmick. Great point.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:40 PM

Which is raises the question, did Nintendo really need to innovate with the Wii U? I always said a brand new HD Nintendo console with just a Pro Controller would have done the trick and they could have shifted focus else-where. Oh well- too late now. But like you said even the 3D in the 3DS advertising has been stopped. Maybe in the future we will see some real use of the gamepad.

You don't see Ford touting the superiority of the automatic transmission anymore.

 

 

I expect Nintendo considers the usefulness of off-screen and second-screen play to be established.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 06:34 PM

Which is raises the question, did Nintendo really need to innovate with the Wii U? I always said a brand new HD Nintendo console with just a Pro Controller would have done the trick and they could have shifted focus else-where. Oh well- too late now. But like you said even the 3D in the 3DS advertising has been stopped. Maybe in the future we will see some real use of the gamepad.

 

I almost wish they did do that. I doubt Nintendo will ever have a console that doesn't have some gimmick though. I hope we do see some good use in the future. So far the best use in my opinion has been not needing to use split screen in games that normally demand it



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:09 PM

I don't mind if they don't use it for additional features in games. I just love it for off tv play


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:25 PM

I think they wanted to focus more on getting solid game content out. Knowing Nintendo, they haven't abandoned the Gamepad. However, they probably knew showing how the Gamepad interacts with the games could make them seen gimmicky, and so didn't want to take chances.

Bayonetta 2, however, seems like Phantom Hourglass in which you can play purely with touch functions, so you can't say they didn't show any Gamepad function.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:15 PM

You don't see Ford touting the superiority of the automatic transmission anymore.
 
 
I expect Nintendo considers the usefulness of off-screen and second-screen play to be established.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 04:21 AM

Almost all of the games shown for Nintendo at E3

 

Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Bayonetta 2, Sonic Lost Worlds and others have unique features with the gamepad from touch screen controls, camera controls, off screen functionality etc.

 

Don't forget Game and Wario and Wii Party U, those games are doing some great things with the gamepad as well. Not every game will need to highlight the gamepad use. In fact, these two titles show off the gamepad as much as Nintendoland. These kinds of games will make the gamepad shine.

 

There really wasn't any need to spend much time promoting this, people just want to know about what games are coming out. Gamepad features are more of an added bonus in the end.



Off-TV play is practically all you need, but I agree. I was expecting the new 3D Mario to be somewhat similar in Gamepad use to Vita's Tearaway: using the touchscreen and other Gamepad stuff to manipulate the environment. Instead, we got NSMBU use put into a glorified 3D Land port. I think Nintendo is just trying to put these games out, so they haven't put much emphesis into Gamepad use. Next year will really show us what WiiU is capable of.

 

Actually, if you watch the video there is some interesting co-op stuff going on with the gamepad. Person with the gampad can sort of "magically" highlight special areas by using the stylus or their finger by swiping or going in circles. On the TV other players will see something sort of transparent as though there might be something there, when they jump they hit some coin blocks or special items etc.

 

Some players may not notice this if they are going through the stage with their friends at a fast clip but it's certainly a neat little concept thrown in.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 05:06 AM

Well the gamepad is the selling point for the system and they didn't showcased it, I think Nintendo probably doesn't know what the Wiiu is aiming for yet.



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 08:57 PM

 I wish I could remember which article it was and even so it was nothing concrete but it was mentioned their Zelda U will make full of use of the gamepad and be fully integrated in every part of the game.  Nothing but talk at this point but it's possible they're not showing off the gamepad until they have a flagship game (or two) with which to show it off.  I'm also of the opinion unless there's a meaningful, fun and intuitive way to incorporate the gamepad into the software just let it function as a second screen/helpful utility.  Not every game needs to use it for the sake of using it.  Let it build up some momentum and show off it's functionality so developers are tempted to use it rather than feel forced to use it as an afterthought just because it's part of the system.


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