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#1 luigi454

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:28 AM

So I have a wii u, and then I got the zelda ww hd wii u.  

 

I had a nintendo network ID on it, and learnt that I could not move it >_< So I deleted my nintendo network ID on my old wii u in hopes of being able to create one with the same name on my new wii u.

However I keep getting an error that it still exists T____T Even though when trying to sign into the Miiverse website it tells me that account doesn't exist.  So what's up?  Can that ID only ever be used/recreated on my old Wii u?



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:31 AM

Yeah sorry, I sincerely hope they fix that in the Autumn update.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:37 AM

Yeah sorry, I sincerely hope they fix that in the Autumn update.

 

T_____T Nintendo has failed really had with this... also with a lot of other things.  My GCN from '01 can transfer save files and the Wii U cannot >_<

I dunno if it's bad planning or bad programming, but it seems like a really hard fail to have your purchases and account forever tied to your console.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:41 AM

If you have a lucky day you can try calling up customer service and getting that fixed for you. There's at least one story of them transferring the account.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

So I have a wii u, and then I got the zelda ww hd wii u.  

 

I had a nintendo network ID on it, and learnt that I could not move it >_< So I deleted my nintendo network ID on my old wii u in hopes of being able to create one with the same name on my new wiiu.

However I keep getting an error that it still exists T____T Even though when trying to sign into the Miiverse website it tells me that account doesn't exist.  So what's up?  Can that ID only ever be used/recreated on my old Wii u?

 

 

I read on neogaf that if you call nintendo and ask them they will let you transfer it.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:26 PM

Just got off the phone with Nintendo, they have said it is not possible >_<

I'll try send an email and see if I can get in contact with anyone different.

 

I read on neogaf that if you call nintendo and ask them they will let you transfer it.

Do you remember who they contacted?

 

I used this:  1-800-255-3700 (http://www.nintendo....orp/contact.jsp)



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:46 PM

I think they really only make exceptions in the case of hardware failure of the original WiiU

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 02:57 PM

I think they really only make exceptions in the case of hardware failure of the original WiiU

 

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:09 PM

 

Do you remember who they contacted?

 

they didn't say. 

 

http://www.neogaf.co...=663753&page=10

here is the link. they start talking about it in around post 463.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:33 PM

hummm.... I'll have to see about contacting him/her.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:30 PM

It's probably not their official policy, but like anything in customer services, if you talk to enough people over long enough you'll get what you want.

Also you may have screwed yourself over by making a new account and applying the wind waker to that, if you called them first it might have been an easy process for them, and might even be impossible now, depending on how badly their nnid transfer tools are.

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#12 UnholyVision

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:16 PM

Also you may have screwed yourself over by making a new account and applying the wind waker to that, if you called them first it might have been an easy process for them, and might even be impossible now, depending on how badly their nnid transfer tools are.

I would say it is impossible if the game was activated on another account. I mean, Nintendo does not even keep a purchase record right.... Yet alone not really having the ability to activate a NNID on another account, the user is truely furked. (Assuming I am taking what you said correctly & remembering correctly on what I believe Nintendo said some where about purchase history).



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:15 PM

Frankly I'm just surprised thy haven't worked this out more. Having the Wii be tied to the hardware only was a simple if not disappointing limitation, and the 3DS let's you transfer to a different 3DS at any time. The Wii U's system of being tied non-transferably to both the hardware AND NID is outright stupid.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 06:27 AM

I would say it is impossible if the game was activated on another account. I mean, Nintendo does not even keep a purchase record right.... Yet alone not really having the ability to activate a NNID on another account, the user is truely furked. (Assuming I am taking what you said correctly & remembering correctly on what I believe Nintendo said some where about purchase history).

They totally have a purchase history, it's in the eshop options.
It'd be not good for them not to have a readable copy of that themselves linked to your account.

I just think merging accounts isn't something simple, which is what I'd imagine their transfer software would have to be since they don't have a public version.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:34 AM

Frankly I'm just surprised thy haven't worked this out more. Having the Wii be tied to the hardware only was a simple if not disappointing limitation, and the 3DS let's you transfer to a different 3DS at any time. The Wii U's system of being tied non-transferably to both the hardware AND NID is outright stupid.

The sad part is even if they did the same as the 3DS on Wii U not many people buy a new console first to transfer. Either they sell the current console to buy the new. As not everyone is made of money, nor is it as easy to lug around all those cables. Imagine if say GameStop, GameCrazy, or whatever trade in store via your part of the world has, had to hook up everyones consoles to transfer data. There could actually be some good money in that. (Given enough people were trading in for another model). Companies could charge you a fee to transfer your data for you to a new console for say eight to fifteen USD. Because their using electricity from the store and it is on there employees time and labor. :laugh: People would do it too, just to get that mark down on the next system or newer system model.

 

With all that said, Nintendo just needs to drop the account system all together & get out of DD services if they can't get it right. Bloody hell, even a console with no local accounts or identification means would be great. Then say it all worked via a single online account to download, but said downloads were not transferable. Making the only way to get said content again would be to relogin & download with your saves either cloud saved or backed up and transferable via flash memory. Maybe even throw in a DRM such as activated X ammount of consoles at said time with a deactivation tool via there website. Oh, but what am I saying, this is Nintendo where logical coding & micro-transactions for there users are thrown out the door.

 

Nintendo Employee: Sir I have a brilliant idea!

Satoru Iwata: Sounds great already, tell me what it is!

Nintendo Employee: Lets make it easy to transfer user accounts and change the other services to reflectsimilar changes. My proposal is....

Satoru Iwata: Stop right there!

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Satoru Iwata: Give me your employee id you are fired! Security will be here in a moment to escort you out of the building. How dare you question my methods of milking the customers.

 

 

They totally have a purchase history, it's in the eshop options.
It'd be not good for them not to have a readable copy of that themselves linked to your account.

Let me rephrase what I said a little. I was saying, "If I recall correctly Nintendo does not store the purchase history on there end and the records are all store via the clients/users end". That said store data is then tracked via the store software granting local user account NNID-blah-blah-3255425 to what ever ftp to reobtain said files. Meaning when that one person purchased over 500USD/312GBP worth of games to lose them all Nintendo had no way to really look up the transaction history via there end.

 

Unless, I am mistaken and I am thinking of some other micro-transaction services doing this. Though, it would make perfect sense to why they can not compensate those whom lost all there data via the console. Not like Nintendo would be the first place to not keep records or even run a store properly with say SSL.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:51 AM

to escort you out of the building. How dare you question my methods of milking the customers.
 
 
Let me rephrase what I said a little. I was saying, "If I recall correctly Nintendo does not store the purchase history on there end and the records are all store via the clients/users end". That said store data is then tracked via the store software granting local user account NNID-blah-blah-3255425 to what ever ftp to reobtain said files. Meaning when that one person purchased over 500USD/312GBP worth of games to lose them all Nintendo had no way to really look up the transaction history via there end.
 
Unless, I am mistaken and I am thinking of some other micro-transaction services doing this. Though, it would make perfect sense to why they can not compensate those whom lost all there data via the console. Not like Nintendo would be the first place to not keep records or even run a store properly with say SSL.

I'm pretty sure the Wii Shop does that.
There was a private "hack" (not really a hack) that made it so the shop thought you owned all the games on it.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:29 PM

Does Nintendo require you to send in your consoles to do a transfer, or do they do it remotely? They can remotely remove licences for the 3DS eShop. In any case, it SHOULD be possible for them to disable the new account's WWHD license, then give the person a new key to unlock after they transfer the account. Or they could just plain delete the new account.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:24 PM

@lxchel: If 3DS game license can be removed does not really mean Nintendo has designed their software to transfer ID's remotely. To me it sounds like the 3DS uses your internet connection to check for ownership of said software license. If downloaded and then never connected to the internet again could possibly change that outcome. Presumably if the software in question does not have a built in DRM requiring a connection to run. (I never buy from Nintendo DD services for select reasons, so never have I experinced that first hand to know on the DRM's).

 

As far as I have read in most all cases, consoles are shipped in to get the transfer. Specially if you buy the expensive console replacement from them directly.


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