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#1 Raiden

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 12:39 PM

 

This is the same thing as dubstep. We heard this every time we connected to the internet. Except we all hated it.


Edited by Ryudo, 13 June 2014 - 01:41 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:07 PM

 

This is the same thing as dubstep. We heard this every time we connected to the internet. Except we all hated it.

 

Woah, yet another person who hasn't even listened to dubstep but hates it anyway! :D


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:15 PM

Not heard it? It's everyfreakingwhere. Yes I heard it many times more than once. It's the same as dial up. Plain and simple.



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:23 PM

Not heard it? It's everyfreakingwhere. Yes I heard it many times more than once. It's the same as dial up. Plain and simple.

 

I think you have an ear problem, my friend...


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:25 PM

I think you have an ear problem, my friend...

Lol kids and stop hijacking


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:29 PM

I think you have a lack of  taste problem and stop hijacking

 

Lack of taste? Nah, just different taste. I'm fine if you don't like dubstep, but I do, and there's no need for you to call it something it's not just because you don't. Don't get mad because someone likes something you don't.

 

And what? Hijacking? What are you talking about?


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:32 PM

You don't know what me being mad is. You never will see it either. It's Blunt/Asp/SPD and a BS thread you took serious. ^_^

Hijacking is what bender does this on a tall building


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:39 PM

Never really been into that type of music, always preferred stripped down music. Vocals and instruments in harmony making music, with dub step I can tell it's electronic sounds coming from a computer and I'm not against all of it but for the most part I just don't get why that would be the driving force of the song.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:39 PM

*snerp*

 

Um.

 

I...

 

If this is supposed to be a funny thread and you don't mindlessly hate dubstep, then I'm sorry. But there was no need to say I have a lack of taste and all that jazz... Coulda just said you were joking right away...


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:42 PM

When am I not joking? Sucka

 

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 04:18 PM

I can tell it's electronic sounds coming from a computer and I'm not against all of it but for the most part I just don't get why that would be the driving force of the song.

Because it sounds just as good, and sometimes better.

And I say this when I have listened to both "stripped down" music and dubstep frequently. Along with just about every genre under the sun (except metal and country).

So many people have the "Oh no, that sound comes from a computer!" problem, but I have yet to have anyone tell me how that in any way negatively effects the music. I can tell you it positively affects music by letting the creators have complete creative freedom with almost no limitations. A synthesizer is the ultimate instrument. You play it like any other instrument, but you get to decide exactly what sound it plays.

 

 

Also, - and this is just a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular (seriously) - Good electronic musicians are the best musicians in the music industry. the only people who might possibly rival them are good classical musicians and musicians who do music for movies (though those are also frequently electronic and classical musicians, so...).


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 05:35 PM

Just has to do with it sounding like poop. And if saying shrillex which make sme want the shrill into a ball is up with Mozart,bach and such. Well then I must say this to you

 

 

Also has nothing to do sounding synthesized. Retro game music sounds great on those old midi and modern. Yuzo Koshiro one of gaming's best composers to this day still uses a PC88 to compose. He did soundtracks for games like Ys,Shenmue (him and others for that game series) Streets of Rage and Actraiser and he is still active.



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 05:59 PM

Just has to do with it sounding like poop. And if saying shrillex which make sme want the shrill into a ball is up with Mozart,bach and such. Well then I must say this to you

 

 

Also has nothing to do sounding synthesized. Retro game music sounds great on those old midi and modern. Yuzo Koshiro one of gaming's best composers to this day still uses a PC88 to compose. He did soundtracks for games like Ys,Shenmue (him and others for that game series) Streets of Rage and Actraiser and he is still active.

 

I like a few Skrillex songs, but people have the wrong idea when they think he represents all of dubstep.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 06:59 PM

Dubstep sucks. In my opinion.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 07:45 PM

I like a few Skrillex songs, but people have the wrong idea when they think he represents all of dubstep.

Heck skrillex represents like 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of Dubstep since a huge portion of the stuff he makes isn't even dubstep...

But of course most people who hate on dubstep don't want to hear that. They're too happy circle jerking about how clearly superior their music is and how if it has a wub in it it must be dubstep and it must be terrible.

 

Just has to do with it sounding like poop. And if saying shrillex which make sme want the shrill into a ball is up with Mozart,bach and such. Well then I must say this to you

 

 

Also has nothing to do sounding synthesized. Retro game music sounds great on those old midi and modern. Yuzo Koshiro one of gaming's best composers to this day still uses a PC88 to compose. He did soundtracks for games like Ys,Shenmue (him and others for that game series) Streets of Rage and Actraiser and he is still active.

Mozart definitely changed music more than Skrillex and was more talented than him, but skrillex knows music better than like 90% of musicians out there right now.

Also I said electronic and classical are the two best in the business, so comparing an electronic to a classical musician doesn't really do much.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:45 PM



 

This is the same thing as dubstep. We heard this every time we connected to the internet. Except we all hated it.

 

lol

 

 



You don't know what me being mad is. You never will see it either. It's Blunt/Asp/SPD and a BS thread you took serious. ^_^

Hijacking is what bender does this on a tall building

 

You made a thread criticizing a music genre. Someone disagreed with you about your criticism. That's not hijacking a thread, that's aiding discussion by providing a different point of view.

 

Hell, you're hijacking your own thread by shifting discussion away from the topic and turning it into a discussion about how random you are and how much that guy is hijacking your thread.

 



So many people have the "Oh no, that sound comes from a computer!" problem, but I have yet to have anyone tell me how that in any way negatively effects the music. I can tell you it positively affects music by letting the creators have complete creative freedom with almost no limitations. A synthesizer is the ultimate instrument. You play it like any other instrument, but you get to decide exactly what sound it plays.

 

Also, - and this is just a general statement, not aimed at anyone in particular (seriously) - Good electronic musicians are the best musicians in the music industry. the only people who might possibly rival them are good classical musicians and musicians who do music for movies (though those are also frequently electronic and classical musicians, so...).

 

While I agree with what you're saying, saying that x instrument is the ultimate instrument is the most ignorant thing you could have said. Synthesizers are merely the most versatile instruments and that's it. There is no "ultimate" instrument and there will never be an "ultimate" instrument, all instruments have their time and place.

 

Also, I'd like to know where you're coming from by saying that electronic musicians are the best of the world. Decades of studying, practice and work would turn you into one of the industries' best, not making a certain type of music.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:03 AM


Edited by Ryudo, 14 June 2014 - 08:06 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:31 AM

lol

 

 


 

You made a thread criticizing a music genre. Someone disagreed with you about your criticism. That's not hijacking a thread, that's aiding discussion by providing a different point of view.

 

Hell, you're hijacking your own thread by shifting discussion away from the topic and turning it into a discussion about how random you are and how much that guy is hijacking your thread.

 


 

While I agree with what you're saying, saying that x instrument is the ultimate instrument is the most ignorant thing you could have said. Synthesizers are merely the most versatile instruments and that's it. There is no "ultimate" instrument and there will never be an "ultimate" instrument, all instruments have their time and place.

 

Also, I'd like to know where you're coming from by saying that electronic musicians are the best of the world. Decades of studying, practice and work would turn you into one of the industries' best, not making a certain type of music.

I agree every instrument has their place, but what makes a synthesizer the "ultimate instrument is tat technically it can take ever other instrument's place.

 

It's not how long you study that makes you the best, just how much. All the theory someone who plays an instrument learns a (good) producer learns (heck most good producers either learned an instrument before they started playing, or learn one after they start). But then they often learn way more, since they have to worry about building the song. Then they also do the jobs that an ordinary musician would have a team do for them. Things like mixing and mastering.

An electronic music producer is essentially a composer, except then they go and make or sample every instrument and then mix and master the "recording" as well. Other musicians will do one, maybe two of these jobs (and that's why they need a team) producers do it all (by themselves). That's why I say they're better than most of the music industry.

And also technically you do "practice". Not an instrument necessarily (though like I said, many producers do play one) but considering it'll usually take you somewhere between 5(if you're really good, or really don't care about making your music perfect) to 100 hours to make a song, I'd say you get your practice in.


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