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[3Dude]

I really dislike a lot about the gaming industry right now and I usually try and not pay attention to things going on... With that said what the hell is gamergate?

http://jezebel.com/g...0/ laceydonohue
http://www.theguardi...-neutral-stance
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gamergate
https://geekessays.w...ns-and-schisms/
http://botherer.org/...bout-gamergate/

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

ME: Yup. Dog whistle politics. Congratulations, youve been had by a bunch of astroturfers.
ME: They call you useful idiots (actual term, not surprisingly used by /pol/) or normals behind your back by the way.
ME: Concerning some of the 'normals' of gamergate who actually think its not supposed to be a hate movement
ME: When confronted with the 'please stop harrassing/doxxing' from the normals for a doxxing operation gamergate is conducting right now, this was the response:

Okay guy.


And that is blatant and obvious false equivilance. The ACTUAL equivilant would be a NAZI being hired BY Nintendo, representing the Nintendo company name, while being a NAZI and doing NAZI things, waving the Nintendo banner, and you bet your A$$ I would dissassociate myself with Nintendo until that was resolved.

You are waving the same damn banner as a LITERAL NAZI. ANd then when rainbow happens, you just shrug your shoulders and perform a textbook no true scottsman.

You can knock that 4chan pedantic unicorn tongue off. Its not going to work here.

You think that counts as explaining what something is to someone? Read a dictionary. That's what explaining something should look like.

 

I really dislike a lot about the gaming industry right now and I usually try and not pay attention to things going on... With that said what the hell is gamergate?

http://knowyourmeme....vents/gamergate

I know knowyourmeme isn't the best site, but it's the easiest place for me to find a compilation of everything that's happened.

What 3Dude has posted are a bunch of journalists who have connections to Zoe Quinn's opinion pieces/propoganda on the movement.

Edited by WydrA, 13 October 2014 - 06:17 PM.

[Gimbal]

Its just irritating that a group so insipid and transparent consistantly manages to hoodwink so many people over and over again.
 

 

I feel the same way. I wonder...(not really) who's right. Also it's It's* not Its and it's "consistently" not "consistantly". Since you're so fond of words and grammar. Please note that I'm obviously not fond of words and grammar so I don't care where I messed up and I, like everyone, did. maybe even on purpose.

 

Meh. I was gonna purposely leave parts of my post out again but I'll just say I have no involvement with this movement other than not visiting crappy websites. Yes it's corrupt, you'd be a blind fool not to see it...but that same thing applies to the others as well. You do a lot of the same things you accuse others of doing...and obviously I'm not going to try to convince you of this. You're too smart. Hmm maybe I should have left that bold part out like I usually do but I don't really care right now.

[3Dude]

You think that counts as explaining what something is to someone? Read a dictionary. That's what explaining something should look like.
 
http://knowyourmeme....vents/gamergate
I know knowyourmeme isn't the best site, but it's the easiest place for me to find a compilation of everything that's happened.
What 3Dude has posted are a bunch of journalists who have connections to Zoe Quinn's opinion pieces/propoganda on the movement.

There were plenty of times I very, VERY clearly defined thant 'normals' was the 4 chan term, and even put it in quptation marks many times. Drop the pedantic 4chan 'argument' unicorn tongue. It makes you look like a socially inept moron.

Please, PLEASE show me the mspaint line graphic that manages to link Jon stone, Undergraduate Jennifer Allaway and the professors at her university,god damn RATIONAL WIKI, Jenni goodchild, And John Walker to Zoe Quin, or admit you are full of rainbow and chanology brainwashing.

I found the DARPA conspiracy one god damn hilarious:


Ill wait.

No, really, Im waiting.

[NintendoReport]

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

I feel the same way. I wonder...(not really) who's right. Also it's It's* not Its and it's "consistently" not "consistantly". Since you're so fond of words and grammar. Please note that I'm obviously not fond of words and grammar so I don't care where I messed up and I, like everyone, did. maybe even on purpose.

 

Meh. I was gonna purposely leave parts of my post out again but I'll just say I have no involvement with this movement other than not visiting crappy websites. Yes it's corrupt, you'd be a blind fool not to see it...but that same thing applies to the others as well. You do a lot of the same things you accuse others of doing...and obviously I'm not going to try to convince you of this. You're too smart. Hmm maybe I should have left that bold part out like I usually do but I don't really care right now.

Lol i completely agree with the part in bold Though I w can't tell if the smart comment is sarcastic or not...

[3Dude]

Lol i completely agree with the part in bold Though I w can't tell if the smart comment is sarcastic or not...

Still waiting.

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

There were plenty of times I very, VERY clearly defined thant 'normals' was the 4 chan term, and even put it in quptation marks many times. Drop the pedantic 4chan 'argument' unicorn tongue. It makes you look like a socially inept moron.

Please, PLEASE show me the mspaint line graphic that manages to link Jon stone, Undergraduate Jennifer Allaway and the professors at her university,god damn RATIONAL WIKI, Jenni goodchild, And John Walker to Zoe Quin, or admit you are full of rainbow and chanology brainwashing.

I found the DARPA conspiracy one god damn hilarious:


Ill wait.

No, really, Im waiting.

Lol are those quotations you posted what you consider "clearly defined"? I suppose anytime you use any adjective in a sentence it's being clearly defined. Even more so when it's a word that has an alternate definition that proceeded it for hundreds of years.
 
I was wrong about the sites you posted being connected. I saw Jezebel and just assumed. It's not connected to Zoe Quinn, just an idiotic site run by idiotic people. In my defense it can be so hard to tell the difference these days. Also I was relating it to a ChSommers video I saw them in recently.
All the same the sites you've posted are all opinion pieces that are clearly sided with anti gamergate and do not even attempt to get the other side's perspective or call out the shady practices the side they're supporting has.

 

Still waiting.

Dude there were two minutes inbetween our posts, I clearly didn't see your post before I posted mine. And I'm kind of busy eating dinner. Chill down some.

[NintendoReport]

Brb. Gonna get some exercise in jumping to conclusions

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

Brb. Gonna get some exercise in jumping to conclusions

Get an SJW to train you. they're the best at it in the world.

 

Also no has answered my question yet

Edited by WydrA, 13 October 2014 - 06:54 PM.

[3Dude]

Lol are those quotations you posted what you consider "clearly defined"? I suppose anytime you use any adjective in a sentence it's being clearly defined. Even more so when it's a word that has an alternate definition that proceeded it for hundreds of years.
 
I was wrong about the sites you posted being connected. I saw Jezebel and just assumed. It's not connected to Zoe Quinn, just an idiotic site run by idiotic people. In my defense it can be so hard to tell the difference these days. Also I was relating it to a ChSommers video I saw them in recently.
All the same the sites you've posted are all opinion pieces that are clearly sided with anti gamergate and do not even attempt to get the other side's perspective or call out the shady practices the side they're supporting has.

 
Dude there were two minutes inbetween our posts, I clearly didn't see your post before I posted mine. And I'm kind of busy eating dinner. Chill down some.

"They call you useful idiots (actual term, not surprisingly used by /pol/) or normals behind your back by the way."

1. yeah, I do.

2.

The Jezebel peice is freelanced from an academic, Jennifer Allaway, whos study, at a university, with a team of professors, was actively sabatoged by gamergate because she stumbled onto their crap in her studies data collection. Unfortunately for gamergate, she happens to be a social researcher who specializes in profiling hate groups. They simply became new data to record.

BUSTED!

"In under four hours, the developer survey jumped from around 700 responses, which had been collected over the course of a month, to over 1100 responses. The responses were not nearly as subtle as the anonymous poster above urged. They ranged in their degree of racism and misogyny, but they all all ridiculed the project with dishonest mockery. It appeared that less than 5 percent of the new responses had actually come from developers."




Remember kids, Gamergates not REALLY about harrassmnet... Except it is. Thanks for trying to waste our tax dollars gamergate!

And guess what the academic, and her team of professors working with her, who specializes in social research, professional opinion on the data Gamergate accidentally volunteered to her was? Why, the Social research specialist team profiled Gamergate as a hate group in thier PROFESSIONAL opinion!

I think you are going to need to reach a little deeper than know your meme. Because this is LITERALLY a double blind, from professionals, who were NOT willingly involved. Great going gamergate!! Exposing yourself over and over again is the one thing I can always count on.

3. There IS no other 'side' No one who disagrees with gamergate is uniting under a unified tag banner, so you can through all that 'sides' crap out the window.

[Raiden]

Brb. Gonna get some exercise in jumping to conclusions

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

"They call you useful idiots (actual term, not surprisingly used by /pol/) or normals behind your back by the way."

1. yeah, I do.

2.

The Jezebel peice is freelanced from an academic, Jennifer Allaway, whos study, at a university, with a team of professors, was actively sabatoged by gamergate because she stumbled onto their crap in her studies data collection. Unfortunately for gamergate, she happens to be a social researcher who specializes in profiling hate groups. They simply became new data to record.

BUSTED!

"In under four hours, the developer survey jumped from around 700 responses, which had been collected over the course of a month, to over 1100 responses. The responses were not nearly as subtle as the anonymous poster above urged. They ranged in their degree of racism and misogyny, but they all all ridiculed the project with dishonest mockery. It appeared that less than 5 percent of the new responses had actually come from developers."




Remember kids, Gamergates not REALLY about harrassmnet... Except it is. Thanks for trying to waste our tax dollars gamergate!

And guess what the academic, and her team of professors working with her, who specializes in social research, professional opinion on the data Gamergate accidentally volunteered to her was? Why, the Social research specialist team profiled Gamergate as a hate group in thier PROFESSIONAL opinion!

I think you are going to need to reach a little deeper than know your meme. Because this is LITERALLY a double blind, from professionals, who were NOT willingly involved. Great going gamergate!! Exposing yourself over and over again is the one thing I can always count on.

3. There IS no other 'side' No one who disagrees with gamergate is uniting under a unified tag banner, so you can through all that 'sides' crap out the window.

 

 

1. Seriously? That was what you said as a part of you explanation. You literally said "since I've explained it four of five times now" and then said that as your first actual explanation. I said, you have not explained it even once in response to your "our or five times already" comment, and here you are trying to say yes you did, and quoting the explanation. Maybe you're not aware of the fact time only moves forward, and that i can't see into the future, but if you post your explanation after saying you've posted an explanation, you can't just pretend that it was posted before. I should not have to explain this to you, you're not a child.

"They call you useful idiots (actual term, not surprisingly used by /pol/) or normals behind your back by the way."

2. yes freelanced and submitted to Jezebel... Also, yes her results were sabotaged, because as was stated in the 4chan post you just showed they were almost definitely going to be twisted anyway to try and say some stupid crap about how all people who call themselves gamers are clearly misogynistic rapists, a la the jezebel specialty. That picture is 1. One single submission of the 400 you said were submitted 2. Obviously was not even trying to be subtle and simply wanted to tell the research off for her crappy pseudoscience 3. Actually kind of funny.

3. Then your side doesn't exist either since you can't be against a side that doesn't exist.

 

Yo but this quoting system tho...

Edited by WydrA, 13 October 2014 - 07:36 PM.

[3Dude]

2. yes her results were sabotaged, because as was stated in the 4chan post you just showed they were almost definitely going to be twisted anyway to try and say some stupid crap about how all people who call themselves gamers are clearly misogynistic rapists, a la the jezebel specialty. That picture is 1. One single submission of the 400 you said were submitted 2. Obviously was not even trying to be subtle and simply wanted to tell the research off for her crappy pseudoscience 3. Actually kind of funny.
3. Then your side doesn't exist either since you can't be against a side that doesn't exist.

Holy crap you 4chan brainwashed tool. JENNIFER ALLAWAY DOES NOT WORK FOR JEZEBEL SHE WORKS FOR A UNIVERSITY THAT CONDUCT STUDIES ON SOCIAL RESEARCH.

DO you seriously, SERIOUSLY think the article needs to show 400 goddamned pages of 'suck my dick' and 'die beige quilt'? Seriously? Drop the 4cahn pedantic unicorn tongue. Its making you look like a moron.

The study, had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with gamergate, or gamers, you brainwashed tool. It was about developers and publishers and the ability to predict that game PLAYERS WANT MORE DIVERSITY IN GAME CONTENT AS IN NOT GOD DAMNED EVERYTHING IS silly pony SHOOTY BANG BANG BUT MAYBE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING THATS NOT THE SAME RETREADED WORTHLESS CRAP ALL THE GOD DAMNED TIME, NOT RACES AND SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS!

 

Gamergate morons misinterpereted 'diversity of game content' with 'racial/sexual diversity/ OMG ZOMG SJW"S!!! ATTACK!!!!!!'

The only reason it EVER became about gamergate is because they TRIED TO SABOTAGE IT AND HARRASS HER.

And NOTHING, NO GOD DAMN THING can excuse that behavior and make it acceptable the way you are doing, that is disgusting and you should be completely and absolutely ashamed of your reprehensable behavior.

Of course my 'side' doesnt exist, I already told you that. There is only one unified group united under a hashtag of harrasment, bile and hatred. I dont have hashtag or a 'movement'.


So come on. Nows your chance. What do you have that can disprove the professional opinion of grant owning academic university research team, that was TO ACADEMIC STANDARD a nuetral third party upon data aquisition and interpretation.

[Gimbal]

Lol i completely agree with the part in bold Though I w can't tell if the smart comment is sarcastic or not...

 

It's not sarcastic. It means he thinks he's smart. Has nothing to do with what I think. People who think they're smart don't change cuz they're too smart.

 

https://twitter.com/CHSommers

 

Lawl.

Edited by Gimbal, 13 October 2014 - 07:55 PM.

[3Dude]

Yeah, sorry, but sommers has been a well known entrepauer oppurtunistic ragbag since loooooooong before gamergate existed.
 
I was not surprised at all to see she swooped in to take advantadge of this.

http://www-personal....n/sommers2.html

All proffessional peer reviews are... not kind to Sommers.

[Gimbal]

Yeah, sorry, but sommers has been a well known entrepauer oppurtunistic ragbag since loooooooong before gamergate existed.
 
I was not surprised at all to see she swooped in to take advantadge of this.

http://www-personal....n/sommers2.html

All proffessional peer reviews are... not kind to Sommers.

 

Lawl. Just like I said.

[3Dude]

Lawl. Just like I said.

Yes. Yes. Lets not dare think about things like long standing pre-existing facts and events and factor those into reality.

And that NAZI, hes totally cool, Sure hes a blatant racist monster with a swastika on his chest, but he supports gmargate!
And sure Milo, poster star of gamergate, who MOMENTS BEFORE gamergate, openly mocked gamers, and I quote: “Personally, I don’t understand grown men wasting their lives playing computer games. It seems a bit sad to me” - “It’s not for me to legislate what weirdos in yellowing underpants get up to in their spare time.”

There is a WHOLE ARTICLE like this, where he blatantly mocls people who enjoy playing videogames.

You know, that one time where I was all pissed at the damn gtav rape mod, and how he was blanketing us because of it?

http://www.donotlink.com/framed?541927

Yup, thats @Nero, hero of gamergate.

Before realizing he could easily make easy money off of them because he considers gamers complete and absolute idiots (thanks for making him look right by the way) and became gamergates savior and poster boy next to fellow con artist 'based mom', and teh freindly neighborhood NAZI.

Its TOTALLY not like desperately putting anyone who panders to you up on a pedastal, without looking at anything theyve said or done in the past can come back to make you look like a easily manipulated tool.

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

Holy crap you 4chan brainwashed tool. JENNIFER ALLAWAY DOES NOT WORK FOR JEZEBEL SHE WORKS FOR A UNIVERSITY THAT CONDUCT STUDIES ON SOCIAL RESEARCH.

DO you seriously, SERIOUSLY think the article needs to show 400 goddamned pages of 'suck my dick' and 'die beige quilt'? Seriously? Drop the 4cahn pedantic unicorn tongue. Its making you look like a moron.

The study, had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with gamergate, or gamers, you brainwashed tool. It was about developers and publishers and the ability to predict that game PLAYERS WANT MORE DIVERSITY IN GAME CONTENT AS IN NOT GOD DAMNED EVERYTHING IS silly pony SHOOTY BANG BANG BUT MAYBE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING THATS NOT THE SAME RETREADED WORTHLESS CRAP ALL THE GOD DAMNED TIME, NOT RACES AND SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS!

 

Gamergate morons misinterpereted 'diversity of game content' with 'racial/sexual diversity/ OMG ZOMG SJW"S!!! ATTACK!!!!!!'

The only reason it EVER became about gamergate is because they TRIED TO SABOTAGE IT AND HARRASS HER.

And NOTHING, NO GOD DAMN THING can excuse that behavior and make it acceptable the way you are doing, that is disgusting and you should be completely and absolutely ashamed of your reprehensable behavior.

Of course my 'side' doesnt exist, I already told you that. There is only one unified group united under a hashtag of harrasment, bile and hatred. I dont have hashtag or a 'movement'.


So come on. Nows your chance. What do you have that can disprove the professional opinion of grant owning academic university research team, that was TO ACADEMIC STANDARD a nuetral third party upon data aquisition and interpretation.

Dude we were talking about Jezebel so I assumed this was along the same lines. Chill out. But lolling at the fact I misunderstood you definitely means that I'm a "4chan brainwashed tool". I'm saying the picture doesn't prove anything except that a single person said suck my dick a couple times. I'm not saying they need to post all 400 responses. Though technically, yes that would be the only way to prove that all 400 were this bad. So sorry if you don't like it, but that's how transparency works. This also means you can't post a single review of sommers and just say "they're all like that" by the way. I sincerely hope they're not by the way. It would really speak towards the falling academic standards of higher education

The study did clearly have to do with gamergate since it was asking about game development and game development is one of the subjects frequently talked about in gamergate. It was not a direct link, but it is linked all the same. If it's about diversity in video games it's clearly even more closely related. Also I hope that part about the ability to predict that game players want more diversity are your words and not those of the people conducting the study. If it is their words you'll have further proved the study is bollocks.

Also if anyone is making a fool of themselves right now, it's you. I've refrained from name calling and swearing, you seem to have no such inhabitions. The farthest I've gone is to perhaps be a little condescending, though i would say it was warranted when you were trying to convince e I had amnesia.

Also the behavior isn't nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. The results of a pseudoscience study have purposely been sewed by the people it would most likely have been used against. Oh no. The world is coming to an end. Hold me. Snuggle closer. Let me give you just the tip. Oh yeah baby. Mmmm. Okay I'm going to bed now. What? ... It's not my fault I get tired after I'm done, it just happens.What, no I don't just want you for your body. Ok, fine you win, I'll stay awake and cuddle more. You win. Sheesh. Hey you know I could go ag- Oh sorry, got sidetracked...

*ahem*

So if you don't have a side and this whole thing is all one thing then that means you agree with the thing you've just spent 2 pages disagreeing with. 

Since when do I have to disprove their study by the way? One that was already purposely skewed and that I haven't looked at to boot...

 

It's not sarcastic. It means he thinks he's smart. Has nothing to do with what I think. People who think they're smart don't change cuz they're too smart.

 

https://twitter.com/CHSommers

 

Lawl.

To be fair most people either take an opinion and stand by it til they die or their opinion is swayed by every single comment made on the subject. There are people in the middle, but they're the outlier.

Also why you do based mom like that

Edited by WydrA, 13 October 2014 - 08:28 PM.

[Gimbal]

Yes. Yes. Lets not dare think about things like long standing pre-existing facts and events and factor those into reality.

And that NAZI, hes totally cool, Sure hes a blatant racist monster with a swastika on his chest, but he supports gmargate!
And sure Milo, poster star of gamergate, who MOMENTS BEFORE gamergate, openly mocked gamers, and I quote: “Personally, I don’t understand grown men wasting their lives playing computer games. It seems a bit sad to me” - “It’s not for me to legislate what weirdos in yellowing underpants get up to in their spare time.”

There is a WHOLE ARTICLE like this, where he blatantly mocls people who enjoy playing videogames.

Before realizing he could easily make easy money off of them and became gamergates savior next to fellow con artist 'based mom' and teh freindly neighborhood NAZI.

Its TOTALLY not like desperately putting anyone who panders to you up on a pedastal, without looking at anything theyve said or done in the past can come back to make you look like a easily manipulated tool.

 

True that.

 

Also I've never heard of these people. I followed Quinnspiracy for like 4 days.(probably more now that I think about it...) I never followed gamergate. Oh wait googled Milo and wow he's right there. Hah Yeah I've seen him, never really payed attention to him(only remember laughing at his death threat count), but you have to realize that I've also openly mocked gamers...here on this forum...to your face so I wouldn't care anyway. Also is the Nazi a real person or are you just using acronyms again?

Edited by Gimbal, 13 October 2014 - 08:32 PM.