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#1 CUD

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Posted 22 November 2015 - 04:43 PM

I'm pretty sure most of you here have already heard that Linkle will be a new character in Hyrule Warriors. I've seen a lot of mixed opinions on Linkle. So I was curious to see what people though here.

 

Most people seemed to dislike her name but I don't really have a problem with it or her design.

 

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Do you like or dislike Linkle? Would you like to see Linkle (or another female protagonist) in a main series LoZ game?


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Posted 22 November 2015 - 04:50 PM

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Posted 22 November 2015 - 06:38 PM

I get that they're just making a joke but they had to make Link look more feminine to do so.

Here's a pic of Link and Linkle from Hyrule Warriors side-by-side:

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Link looks much more masculine in the actual game.

 

Side note: this is some cool fan art:

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Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:06 PM

Finally getting a female version of link and people still find ways to moan and groan. Gamer Gaters were hoping Link in early Zelda U footage was indeed female... which we know is not the case. Now with Linkle coming to Hyrule Warriors those same people are complaining she is too much like Link. LOL. Can't have it both ways.

 

Speaking for myself, the name I don't mind and the design from the early art has greatly been greatly improved. Her move sets look fun and should be a great addition to HW Legends and HW on Wii U.


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Posted 22 November 2015 - 08:09 PM

More characters more variety. Problem? Answer none. Those complaining need to be slapped. Game is offering more replay ability.


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Posted 22 November 2015 - 09:34 PM

Finally getting a female version of link and people still find ways to moan and groan. Gamer Gaters were hoping Link in early Zelda U footage was indeed female... which we know is not the case. Now with Linkle coming to Hyrule Warriors those same people are complaining she is too much like Link. LOL. Can't have it both ways.

 

Speaking for myself, the name I don't mind and the design from the early art has greatly been greatly improved. Her move sets look fun and should be a great addition to HW Legends and HW on Wii U.

 

Not so sure about the GamerGaters part. I've seen more complaints coming from anti-GamerGate and just general Zelda fans from the Zelda Informer facebook page. The only complaints I have seen from people I know to be associated with GamerGate are regarding Linkle's name.

 

How would you feel about Linkle being the protagonist of a main series LoZ game?

 

More characters more variety. Problem? Answer none. Those complaining need to be slapped. Game is offering more replay ability.

 

How would you feel about Linkle being the protagonist of a main series LoZ game? Some people were saying they would only want Link to be a male but they'd be fine if they gave the player the option between Linkle and Link.


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Posted 22 November 2015 - 11:14 PM

Not so sure about the GamerGaters part. I've seen more complaints coming from anti-GamerGate and just general Zelda fans from the Zelda Informer facebook page. The only complaints I have seen from people I know to be associated with GamerGate are regarding Linkle's name.

 

How would you feel about Linkle being the protagonist of a main series LoZ game?

 

 

How would you feel about Linkle being the protagonist of a main series LoZ game? Some people were saying they would only want Link to be a male but they'd be fine if they gave the player the option between Linkle and Link.

Zelda U is returning the world design to NES era. Why not go back to NES era on the concept of Link as well. Link is a character not but originally he was nothing. Link was an avatar and had no name or personality he was LINKED to the player and you make him into who you want him to be. Name him what you want and do what you want. Well why not go back to that idea and include a female option.  Make the Hero who you want him/her to be.  Not saying a cac but the option of what hero to choose.


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Posted 23 November 2015 - 02:58 AM

Great character design, but they could have gone with a better name.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 08:06 AM

I think Linkle is pretty cool. No reason to be mad about her, especially not her being a "ms. male character". That's just moronic.

 

As far as being the protag of a mainline Zelda game? No. Link has always been a male. No matter what people say, Link is a character, and he's male. There's a reason he always looks similar (green tunic, yellow droopy hair), and he's always called Link in non-Zelda games. MK8, Smash... Always referred to as Link. Changing that for no reason other than to appease SJWs is not a good idea. If they come up with a good story (or even better, gameplay) reason to have a female Link, then by all means, do it.

 

I have no problem playing as a girl. The Metroid series is probably my favorite series and you play as a female the whole time. I just don't want a character to be changed without any good reason.

 

Also, just anecdotal evidence here, but almost all of my sisters would rather play as a guy and enjoy movies and shows more when there's a male protag.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 12:50 PM

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 05:39 PM

As far as being the protag of a mainline Zelda game? No. Link has always been a male. No matter what people say, Link is a character, and he's male. There's a reason he always looks similar (green tunic, yellow droopy hair), and he's always called Link in non-Zelda games. MK8, Smash... Always referred to as Link. Changing that for no reason other than to appease SJWs is not a good idea. If they come up with a good story (or even better, gameplay) reason to have a female Link, then by all means, do it.

 

Linkle being the protagonist of a mainline Zelda =/= Linkle being Link.

 

Either way, Link as a character is not defined by his gender, so I don't know what your problem is here. It's not the same situation as in, say, Mario suddenly turning into a woman, because Mario in every game is the same entity while most Zelda games have a different Link.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 03:03 AM

Linkle being the protagonist of a mainline Zelda =/= Linkle being Link.

 

Either way, Link as a character is not defined by his gender, so I don't know what your problem is here. It's not the same situation as in, say, Mario suddenly turning into a woman, because Mario in every game is the same entity while most Zelda games have a different Link.

 

Yeah but turning Link into a girl really is just for the sake of it unless it is a big part of the plot.

 

However, give people an option to choose. I don't want to be forced to play as a female Link but I'm sure some people out there would like it if they didn't have to play as a male link.



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Posted 25 November 2015 - 03:14 AM

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Posted 25 November 2015 - 06:47 AM

Yeah but turning Link into a girl really is just for the sake of it unless it is a big part of the plot.

 

However, give people an option to choose. I don't want to be forced to play as a female Link but I'm sure some people out there would like it if they didn't have to play as a male link.

 

Why does Linkle's gender need to be a big part of the plot when Link's gender never has been?

 

Giving people the option to choose will keep people happy but the devs should be free to make Linkle the protagonist of a game without people thinking it's somehow going to ruin the game.

 

Soon people will demand a Caitlyn Jennar link

 

They'll probably just insist that Linkle and Link are both trans until everyone accepts it and if you deny it you're a bigot.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 08:47 AM

Yeah but turning Link into a girl really is just for the sake of it unless it is a big part of the plot.

 

However, give people an option to choose. I don't want to be forced to play as a female Link but I'm sure some people out there would like it if they didn't have to play as a male link.

 

Oh no no no, shoehorning Link's gender into the plot sounds like the most annoying thing the devs could do. It's going to affect the pacing of the story and it's going to be constantly reminding everyone else that Link's no longer a guy and that's weird. It's not worth it when the simple solution of just ignoring Link's gender is going to make everyone happier.

 

Personally, I'd rather they go with one or the other instead of turning Link's gender into a player choice. It gives them much more freedom to characterize the new Link.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 07:36 PM

They really don't look that similar aside from their eye color and hair. tbh imo


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 07:00 AM

A main-series Zelda game with Link and Linkle would be cool. You can switch between them whenever you want and have co op too.


Oh no no no, shoehorning Link's gender into the plot sounds like the most annoying thing the devs could do. It's going to affect the pacing of the story and it's going to be constantly reminding everyone else that Link's no longer a guy and that's weird. It's not worth it when the simple solution of just ignoring Link's gender is going to make everyone happier.

 

Personally, I'd rather they go with one or the other instead of turning Link's gender into a player choice. It gives them much more freedom to characterize the new Link.

 

Why does Linkle's gender need to be a big part of the plot when Link's gender never has been?

 

Giving people the option to choose will keep people happy but the devs should be free to make Linkle the protagonist of a game without people thinking it's somehow going to ruin the game.

 

 

They'll probably just insist that Linkle and Link are both trans until everyone accepts it and if you deny it you're a bigot.

 

If it isn't a part of the gameplay or plot then what's the point? It won't bring anything new to the game and is nothing more than a novelty. I think a male/female option is best for everyone since Link has always been intended as an extension of the player (although he has become more characterised in recent years). Let me be clear that I am talking more about a female version of Link and not Linkle, Linkle looks like she will have her own character traits and is not just a female Link.

 

If they want to make a game with Linkle then so be it, I don't think it will ruin the game unless you didn't get to use a sword.



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Posted 26 November 2015 - 02:44 PM

A main-series Zelda game with Link and Linkle would be cool. You can switch between them whenever you want and have co op too.

 

A game with both of them would be interesting but seems like a considerably more difficult concept to pull off so I'm not so sure they'd go that route.

 

 

If it isn't a part of the gameplay or plot then what's the point? It won't bring anything new to the game and is nothing more than a novelty. I think a male/female option is best for everyone since Link has always been intended as an extension of the player (although he has become more characterised in recent years). Let me be clear that I am talking more about a female version of Link and not Linkle, Linkle looks like she will have her own character traits and is not just a female Link.

 

If they want to make a game with Linkle then so be it, I don't think it will ruin the game unless you didn't get to use a sword.

 

Well why is Link male in LoZ games when it doesn't affect the gameplay or plot? Why not just say he's gender neutral or gender fluid elf-kin? Gender is very rarely a decision that affects gameplay and story, it's purely a design choice that the developers are free to make and that doesn't make it a novelty just because it's different. I mean, if Link being male was never a novelty then why is it suddenly a novelty when Link is a female?

 

I haven't played Skyward Sword which I hear there is a bit more characterisation given to Link but other than that I don't recall Link having much of a personality and since Link isn't the same character in each game the character from one game doesn't even make a difference to a new Link. So since Link doesn't have much of a character I'm not so sure that a female Link would be so different other than appearance, furthermore what difference is there really to a female Link and Linkle? Since Link changes from game to game so can the character of Linkle.

 

I wouldn't even say that a game with Linkle as the protagonist where she doesn't have a sword would ruin the game, definitely different but I can't see how that alone could ruin it.


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 06:16 PM

Finally getting a female version of link and people still find ways to moan and groan. SJWs were hoping Link in early Zelda U footage was indeed female... which we know is not the case. Now with Linkle coming to Hyrule Warriors those same people are complaining she is too much like Link. LOL. Can't have it both ways.

Speaking for myself, the name I don't mind and the design from the early art has greatly been greatly improved. Her move sets look fun and should be a great addition to HW Legends and HW on Wii U.

Fixed for you. I really question if we needed 'Linkle' in the first place. Regardless I really like her art design. The green hood and crossbow gives her a nice ranger/hunter motif and I'm glad they made her unique and didn't just cut off Link's ;).

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 07:48 PM

A game with both of them would be interesting but seems like a considerably more difficult concept to pull off so I'm not so sure they'd go that route.

 

...How? Literally nothing changes. All Nintendo has to do is allow you to pick your gender when you pick your name. Sure they could have a proper character customization thing, but having any changes to the story would be completely optional depending on how it is written (for example: in Twilight princess Telma's flirting will work though a little scandalous, but the scene where Link and Mayor Bo share knowing glances while Ilia yells at them would work better if the mayor and Ilia's genders were reversed). But literally 95% of all Zelda games' stories work just as well as is if you pretend Link was female.

 

Maybe you can have a story where Link and Linkle are fraternal twins and the one you choose becomes the hero while the other takes on NPC roles throughout the story. (Imagine a conversation between Link and Linkle)


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