I have also reported an extensive email to gonintendo.com and mynintendonews.com , both thave not reported about the VGA ZOL BARTS rumor spotted by B3D member and posted by bgassasin on neogaf, which was quickly buried by ignoring public. My point was about the range of the GPU could be in there in terms of TFLOP, i know all these HD6XXX names are all equivalents for comparrison we use but if they use it seriously then they surely have no idea what they're talking about.
VGA ZOL Rumor: http://vga.zol.com.cn/296/2968963.html
Translation Here: (from the email i created)
Title of the article: With the Nintendo Barts chip WiiU rumors the new specifications
First Sentence: We have previously reported, the game developers and game developers to Nintendo, Nintendo raise Wii U gaming hardware specifications. //COMMENT: Yes this is true, this made to neogaf, it was reported as "nintendo trying to make sure UE4 works" (not literally, nintendo cannot influence 3rd parties engined directly unless it's a hack/backdoor) which technically means buffing the specs hardware-wise which means that Epic probably pressured them to do so.
Second Sentence: Now, we have a Christmas this year, the host of the latest hardware specifications.
Third: Updates to the hardware specification, code named Wii U R&D is the date of listing, Cafe" around Christmas 2012.
All about the specs: ( I have fixed some of the word formation, I changed only what Im 100% and I am familiar with tech)
Wii IBM PowerPC U processor with 32-bit, 4 IBM Power 7 core, 8 thread. Approximately 200 GFLOPS computing capacity.
Wii AMD U graphics system with the 40 NM GPU Radeon HD 6800, based on the Barts core, VLIW5 architecture, a 1120 D stream processors, and 5 computing capacity TFLOPS approximately 2.
Built in 2 Wii U GB shared memory, no hard drive, integrated optical drive. //COMMENT AHA no hard drive, google translate was bad here. I think this rumor is getting fairly belivable ... no hard drive is what was rumored before and expected, external HDD will be possible as nintendo said.
Taking into account the Epic Nintendo to pressure to support Wii U DX UE 4 engine 11 and the hearsay, it is clear that Barts level 6800 series graphics cards can run 1080P UE4.
THE POINT IS now ... why VGA ZOL looks so unbelievable, because they don't know any of these details, they just looked up the webistes of IBM and AMD and just copying over the PC hardware specifications, that's stupid, that's why the 2TFLOP, VLIW5 and all other things came from. I don't know from where all of these rumors get the idea of nerfed cores and threads ... compared to what in the patent says "enhanced" , rumors might be correct on this one since patent is too vague ... enhanced could mean whatever.
VGA ZOL took all of the GPU specs directly from the AMD site, this is very wrong, the console chips are custom, ... almost everything is custom and there's nothing to do with PC, the sources who make there rumors most probably know they mean an equivalent in TFLOPs, they don't mean the ACTUAL card to be in there. For the range ... i don't want to exaggerate, but we already know it's probably "over 1 TFLOP".
We will not know until we have full specs, what was really VGA ZOLs info and what they copied off the existing specs from company websites. They're pretty stupid for doing this and not notifying.
Here IBM: https://www-01.ibm.c..._Microprocessor
This is where VGA ZOL might get their 32-bit thing .... which was very suspicious for me, but this goes contradiction to what we have in the patent which states "enhanced" ... I am no rocket scientist, but i don't see how 32 would be an enhancement over 64-bit. And it's ridicolous, nintendo 64 was called because it's 64-bit CPU DUH!
Patent is here: http://www.google.co...e&q=112&f=false
Haven't seen anyone revealed this, someone might check around and B3D, but yes, I found it when readin the patent about memory and specs stuff that was in the figs.
UPDATE: DEC 2011 CPU rumors were accurate then (if this is true)
UPDATE2: Okay ... i knew something was too good to be true. I was hyped, blame me, i was too quick to report all of it, in the patent you can clearly see (e.g. an enhanced IBM Power PC 750) ... that "eg" might indicate an example, not the actual specs, so ... 50/50 now, who knows if they were serious or not. So i'll put a ? mark on the thread.
Actually the only thing that might back us up now is the previous rumors, but I wasn't focusing on CPU stuff ... CPU is the least problem for me, i worry about RAM.
UPDATE3: Okay a bit of a mixup here with the 32-bit VGA ZOL CPU STUFF; i have really no idea about IBM's PCs so i had to go check and learn everything while writting this thread, forget aobut that N64 64 thing because it looks like it's not an argument, Wii and GCN also got PowerPC tech in 32-bit ... I am not sure what the heck is going on with this bits and whatever, it's a clusterfick of numbers and I don't even know what to expect in terms of bits, if 64-bit ... no idea. If yes, good. but I don't really care anymore, it's late here and going to sleep ... i'll see later.
UPDATE4: There seems to be some other specs stuff in the diagram too, stuff like "DRAM Main Memory" is very interesting (might be a lot of it, and DRAM is fast so it's great news if true) ... , because MAIN memory is usually slower and a lot of it, ... not sure if we meant to take these diagrams seriously, but still ... it can be true, maybe they meant it as "main" internal or what, but rumors also reported 2 GB shared, however you know nintendo, DRAM is a expensiver.
Edited by Stewox, 01 June 2012 - 01:20 PM.