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http://www.polygon.c...ing-wii-u-games

 

The PlayStation 4 announcement last month immediately led to a PS4 vs Xbox 720 debate, but perhaps Sony and Microsoft's next-generation consoles are competing for second place.

"Compared to gaming PCs, the PS4 specs are in the neighborhood of a low-end CPU, and a low- to mid-range GPU side," said Nvidia's Tony Tamasi to TechRadar.

As Nvidia's senior vice president of content and development, he sees the PS4's specs as outdated, even today.

"If the PS4 ships in December as Sony indicated, it will only offer about half the performance of a GTX680 GPU (based on GFLOPS and texture), which launched in March 2012, more than a year and a half ago."

It only gets worse

Tamasi also notes that consoles, by definition, are closed platforms and not upgradeable.

"What you get today in terms of performance is what you're stuck with five - 10 years down the road. PCs don't have these problems," he told TechRadar.

"They are open and can be upgraded at any time to harness the power of newer GPUs for more performance and to take advantage of newer, modern graphics technologies."

The gap between console and PC gaming has become more apparent this console generation, and Tamasi expects more of the same when PS4 andXbox 720 get here.

"If history predicts the future, then these next-generation consoles, while being more powerful than the current ones, will very quickly end up more than an order of magnitude behind the PC."

PS4 not worth the cost to Nvidia

The comments from the Nvidia senior vice president are noteworthy because they aren't just from an industry rival trying promote PC gaming vs PS4.

The remarks come from the same company that powers the PS3's graphics chip.

Nvidia isn't buying into the PS4, however. Sony announced specs that include an eight-core AMD processor and a custom Radeon GPU.

"I'm sure there was a negotiation that went on," Tamasi told GameSpot, "and we came to the conclusion that we didn't want to do the business at the price those guys were willing to pay."

Instead, Tamasi said that Nvidia, with only so many engineers and so much capability, will be able to focus on another portion of its business that it wouldn't be able to if it did chips for Sony.

Nvidia's projects include delivering high-end graphics cards like theGeForce GTX Titan and supplying Apple computers with GPUs.

It's also looking to capture mobile processing with its Tegra 4i system on a chip for smartphones and tablets, and by releasing its own handheld gaming platform, Nvidia Project Shield.

 

http://www.techradar...end-cpu-1138051

Well, i will talk about Nintendo, and just related with the Wii U.


1) They will show The Mario 3d, Zelda Wind Waker HD,Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros; Mario kart and Smash bros will kick some ass, but Mario 3d will be really impressive, more than Mario Galaxy in the Wii;
2) A gameplay and a Trailer of X;
3) A new FPS ip; A new horror ip;
4) A racing simulator ip;
5) A more tradicional fighting game new ip;
6) Nintendo buys Sega and Platinum games;
7) The new Retro studios Game is a new 3d Donkey kong, and a new ip; Also the Retro games will be awesome;
8) Nintendo will announce some new third exclusives, like Darkstalkers, Resident evil 2 remake, and some cancelled games with some hype;
9) Final fantasy 7 remake,but will not be exclusive;
10) The games that show the Wii U power will be more closer with the new consoles than expected, the Wii U will show a much bigger 3rd support than Wii, and this already in this e3;

More people will buy Wii Us. This is good news for Nintendo if you ask me.

More people will buy Wii Us. This is good news for Nintendo if you ask me.

I think it's good too. But at least in the short term, they will support even more the consoles with this block, but if people doesn't support, we can see some bad news for Sony and M$

My question still wasn't answered.



Does the specs prove that the PS4 and 720 will have a graphical leap large enough to cause Nintendo to lose third-party support?

The leap doesn't matter that much. You see tha gamecube for example, more powerful than ps2, and still with not massive support. I mean, even with more or less power, will not change the fact that Nintendo consoles will not have full thirds support. Maybe a good support, better than wii , gamecube and n64, but, nothing like SNES era. I think Nintendo must convince them to at least make some key multi plat titles, and exclusives like Bayonetta 2

Last year, we have a rumour about a new racing game for the Wii U called "Concept Grand Prix".
Look this:
http://blazingstarga...acer-for-wii-u/

Now, look at this:

http://www.lucidgames.co.uk/products/

http://www.nowgamer....acing_game.html

Coincidence, or another game?

I have a doubt about how the Wii U will handle against the new consoles, in terms of power and stuff, the Wii is a Gamecube with overclock, and the other consoles have much more power. Do you think the new gen will be at the same level of difference? Personally , i think the Wii U is in a better condition than Wii at the time. I mean, this time the console is mostly new, with some advance compared with other consoles, at least in GPU and RAM size. The CPU is the part that is still more nebulous. Your thoughts please.

I think the Wii U will do better than Wii in graphics during life time evolution. You see the Wii , it was exactly a Gamecube with overclock,the Technology is mostly the same. With the Wii U, we have a console made from the scratch. Four times more RAM  than current consoles, a CPU so efficient that even with a much lower clock can run the current games even with a totally different code, different architecture, and being straight ports, with few problems, and some times even better. And the Wii U as some developers said have a much better GPU. So i think that even if the console will be weaker compared with the Sony and Microsoft Next gen systems, i think it will be much better compared with Wii in this gen. And i think also that the new Sony and Microsoft systems will not repeat the same leap as they did the current gen.