I agree that Nintendo has to cater for both New Nintendo fans for the ages we were when we were kids, but they also need to start catering for the Nintendo fans that grew up. Sony has been doing this ever since Playstation. Their games got more mature as Playstation got more mature/older.

Not to say that I still enjoy the old IPs, a lot of them are very layered and appeal to all ages. However Nintendo do need to get some M-rated titles on their console too. It's what the parental lock they have is for

#FACTS

 Yep, that pretty much sums them up.

There is a 9 minute gameplay vid from IGN

http://www.ign.com/v...of-the-eternals

Actually, they did. And that is what depresses me.

http://www.ign.com/a...tropical-freeze

Donkey Kong was the Retro game we have been waiting for.

  Yea I just saw that.    

Just shows how poorly Nintendo thought about the Wii U.  People were more willing to pay a bit more and buy the Deluxe model.  I personally would have preferred to pay and extra $50 to get a more powerful console, at least 3rd party developers would be more willing to port their games to the Wii U.  But excuses can be made for everything wrong that they do, because they can't do anything wrong and the "shining Nintendo knights"  will be out in force flaming me for stating my own personal opinion.

I'm sorry, your just plain wrong. Correct that Nintendo missed out on those games, and will continue to miss out on more games. But who buys Nintendo for those games.

Right there. I just mentioned the problem. Nintendo could release a super duper muper trooper console. They could have used a CPU that somehow does all the work for the developer. And Nintendo will still miss out on all these games.

EA didn't abandon Nintendo because of graphics. It's because they are hurting for money, laying people off, and they don't have money to spend on marketing when they don't sell 1+ million units per game. Crisis 3 not only was running on Nintendo, it was ready to release. Months from being in your hands. But EA couldn't afford to sell it on a console that they won't be making much money off. Won't even scratch the surface of how much money they spent.

Metro Last Light really is the last light. THQ, what happened to them again? Yeah, they couldn't afford to learn a new console when they could barely afford to make games in the first place. Again, what happened to them?

Your just wrong. Right about the result, wrong on the cause.

It wouldn't bother me too bad. You do have a point it could be worse. But why are you always looking to call me out?

Other than the graphics not being PC quality and not having a few devs aboard what bothers you so much?

  The fact that all they show are baby games that don't appeal to me.  Sorry but I just saw their E3 Nintendo Direct and it was total garbage to me.   And it is Nintendo that is out of touch.  Back in the day they had Rare (makers of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, I loved those games), they had Left Field Productions (Excitebike64, I liked that game), Silicon Knights (Eternal Darkness, also liked that game), but they sold all those awesome 2nd party developers that would make more mature games that appeal to me.  (A game doesn't have to have blood and gore to appeal to me, I liked Excitebike64, liked Wave Race on both the N64 and the Gamecube versions,1080 on the N64).  They had this special relationship with Factor 5 (the Star Wars Rogue Squadron game on the Gamecube was impressive).  But they sold all their 2nd party developers.  Now we are left with this.  So many games I saw yesterday on the sony E3 that appeal to me.  Also Ubisofts racing game "The Crew", I didn't see a Wii U logo at the end of that trailer.  That is another game I would have liked to have.  Yea sorry, but I am moving on to the PS4, was a loyal Nintendo gamer all my life (only owned Nintendo consoles).  But they are so out of touch.

I understand that. Their E3 Direct was sad, because most of the games I wanted are coming out next year. DK was a pleasant surprise, but honestly, I wanted another surprise. And I wanted to see Retro's game. Assuming DK wasn't Retro's game.

 Yes, I was so looking forward to Retro's game and they didn't show it.  

What do you expect on a fourm of dedicated Nintendo fans? Have fun with your Airstrip One though!

IMO he came here only to incite rage and to get reactions.

Actually if you would have bothered to read any of the things I have said before since I joined this forum.  I been playing Nintendo games for years (probably longer than you 2 combined).  I have only owned Nintendo consoles all my life.  For the first time in my life I am getting a PS4, because I am tired of missing out on all the triple A games that get released on other consoles and not on Nintendo consoles.  Since the Wii U launched I already missed: Bioshock Infinite (Nintendo even showed Ken Levine of Bioschock at E3 2011 praising the Wii U, yet 2 years later Bioshock Infinite gets released and the Wii U doesn't get it.), Metro Last Light, Crysis 3, and probably we wont get GTA5 either. All those games appeal to me. That list will keep growing and growing. (And excuses can be made and made but it doesn't change the facts).

Most people that bought the Deluxe Model wasn't exactly for the 32GB hard drive, 32GB is nothing nowadays (like 2-3 average sized games, one next gen game probably will be that size).  So people that bought the Deluxe model for the 32GB are just postponing the inevitable of having to purchase and external hard drive later.  Of all the reasons to purchase the Deluxe model the little extra space is the least important.

Nintendo should have just released the basic model at the price of the current Deluxe model, and Nintendo instead of wasting that money on an internal hard drive for the system they should have made the console more powerful.  We wouldn't have all that "the Wii U is underpowered doom and gloom" talk to begin with.  And 3rd party developers would be more willing to make games for the system.  Now not only we also not getting FIFA games but also the PES games from Konami.

Yep. It took me... years. I'm talking since the beginning of this crap back durring the N64's popularity to finally get it, but I now know it to be true. The denial is over and my faith in Nintendo is lost. They've lost touch with gamers and are unable to support 3rd party developers.

 

Game over, Nintendo. You've lost me. I can't believe your lies anymore and the Wii U is the last concole of yours I buy on launch day. Next time around I'm just going to wait until you prove yourselves to me. Sorry. Just the way it is now.

 

...And I've been a loyal fan of Nintendo since the NES. Sad times.

  Same here, I'm getting a PS4 (will be my first non Nintendo console).  I been gaming on Nintendo consoles for years, I loved the old Nintendo that had Rare (Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Conker,etc), Silicon Knights (Eternal Darkness),their special relationship with Factor 5( all the star wars games, Battle for Naboo on N64, Rogue Squadron on the GC).   They had all these awesome 2nd party developers that made other types of games for the ones of us who aren't interested in Mario games (no offense intended to people that like those games, I'm not saying they should stop making those games, I'm saying they also should  make games for gamers who aren't interested in the Mario games and etc).  I feel Nintendo is out of touch. The  only studio that they have now that makes games that appeal to me is working on a 2D Donkey Kong game, why couldn't another studio work on that and let Retro work on Metroid or some new IP.

 (and sorry for repeating the same thing over and over but if I don't the "rabid dogs" attack me, as if I was some "troll", when I been playing Nintendo consoles for years, a long loyal Nintendo gamer who only has owned Nintendo consoles all my life, but I feel they out of touch). 

I'll be getting the WiiU pretty soon but what worries me is the game selection. I hope they bring out games which aren't spin off's from Mario/Zelda ... the usual, I'm not really a fan of those franchises. I really hope Nintendo up's their game and get the same games that come out on the Xbox/PS3 at the same time and not two years later. I'm pretty disappointed that Metro won't be coming out on WiiU, I think it's down to funding but things like this makes me worry about the future of the WiiU.

Anyone know of any 3rd party developers that will be developing for the WiiU at a steady pace?