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I can't really say anything about Dragon Ball 'cause I've watched it quite some time ago when I was four years old, but I can comment on DBZ and DBGT. Well, DBZ had some comedy, but the story is one of the worst anime stories out there. It even acts as an example of how not to make a story at various anime forums. I don't want to talk about GT, it traumatized me with its awesome badness. Not badassness, badness. GT sucks. Z is still acceptable, being a typical shounen anime, but GT should be removed from world history.

PS: I'm gonna edit this comment soon. Gotta add a lot of things, but I'm currently lacking the time for it.

Super Nintendo Entertainment System (sold)
Sega Master System (sold)
Nintendo 64
GameCube
Wii
Game Boy Pocket
Nintendo DS
Nintendo 3DS


Considering half of these consoles/handhelds are as old as or even older than I am, I guess you can say that I have a life. It's called video gaming.

I might purchase several old consoles such as N64, Gamecube, Game Boy Advance, Wii, PS2, PSP and PS Vita, if I got enough money.

PS Vita? What's that? It's so old I don't even remember anymore. And a Wii? Wasn't that Nintendo's console before the NES?

A tie between Shiranui/Amaterasu(Okami) and Kratos Aurion.

First of all, I have just returned to the Wii U Forums, so don't blame me for not having read all new posts you guys made in the last year. It's your fault for posting! D;

Jokes aside, let me put my inner fanboy on chains now...
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Basically, what we want to know is:

• How will the Wii U compare to PS360?
• How will the Wii U compare to "Orbis" and "Durango"?

1. Well, not much to say about that. The Xbox 360 and the PS3 are old consoles. Even though they were good when they were released, they're old now. Really old. Ever heard of Moore's Law? Let me quote Wikipedia for that:

[quote name=']Moore's law is a rule of thumb in the history of computing hardware whereby the number of transistors that can be placed inexpensively on an integrated circuit doubles approximately every two years. The period often quoted as "18 months" is due to Intel executive David House' date=' who predicted that period for a doubling in chip performance (being a combination of the effect of more transistors and their being faster).[/quote']
What does this mean for us?

[quote name='Wikipedia]The capabilities of many digital electronic devices are strongly linked to Moore's law: processing speed' date=' memory capacity, sensors and even the number and size of pixels in digital cameras.^[7] All of these are improving at (roughly) exponential rates as well (see Other formulations and similar laws).[/quote]
Yeah, admittedly, the speed of development is currently slowing down, and won't be as fast anymore in the future. However, I think you see that there's no way Nintendo can end up with hardware less capable than the hardware PS360 use. Heck, if they really wanted to have a less capable console, it would probably cost a lot more than one with up-to-date specs, because it would be an antique, lol.


2. This one isn't as funny anymore
There are numerous reasons for that. Firstly, Moore's Law again. Their hardware would be better for the same price just because it's newer. Also, there are some other points, and I have another source for that. Specifically, NeoGAF. Most infos on there can be seen as rather valid, as the mods on NeoGAF ban anyone claiming stuff they can't prove, but I advise you to take it with a grain of salt nevertheless.

The information is hidden somewhere in their enormous Wii U speculation thread #6, and I'm not gonna try to find it. HERE's the link for those of you who're bored or have too much time.

So, that's what the apparent insiders on NeoGAF claim: The Xbox 720/"Durango" will most likely have the best specs, just like the first Xbox had, while the Wii U will either be the next generation's PS2 or Dreamcast. That's where the insiders don't agree; one says it's probably more like the PS2, while the other claims it's more like the Dreamcast, and the difference in graphics will be noticeable.

The reason for that seems to be Microsoft giving in to Epic's demands of better hardware. Sony, according to the guys who know too much than is good for them, or at least claim to do so, hasn't decided yet and as such the PS4/"Orbis" will most likely be in between the Wii U and the 720, leaning more towards the 720. So, the Wii U will probably be the weakest console yet again, but not nearly as weak as the Wii was compared to PS360.

Well, I'm not up-to-date to how up-to-date you guys are, lol, so I'll just comment on the UE4 as if you had never heard of it, alright? The point is, UE4 isn't about how powerful the systems are, but about what you can do with them, generally speaking. The Wii didn't get UE3 because it didn't have programmable shaders. Now, the Wii U's GPU is rather new (compared to the other consoles' GPUs), so it MIGHT work with UE4. We don't know yet. However, it's not about specs, so don't think the Wii U is gonna suck just because it doesn't support UE4, most devs will probably stick to UE3 for some years anyway.

Basically, the Wii U will almost inevitably be inferior to Sony's/MS' consoles, but we'll have a pretty nice time for the first few years of it's lifetime, and it probably won't be as bad as it was with the Wii anyway (concerning 3rd parties). Keep in mind that Nintendo aims for a 5 year cycle, whereas MS and Sony most likely want their consoles to be more future-proof. In this case, we might get a "Wii Us" or whatever 5 years after the Wii U, and this one would be superior to the competition yet again.



Oh, and BTW, auto save has to be a blessing of Hylia herself! I accidentally deleted everything instead of posting, but it didn't get lost! YAY!
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The posts are gettin offtopic enough so let's derail the thread even further.

Here's some gameplay of the new Kirby Wii


On topic: You know, it's just that Sony should quit the gaming business from my point of view or at least stop making new hardware.


Firstly, they hardly make any money with their hardware. It took years for the PS3 to start to pay off (if it even pays off at all, I don't know), and it most probably will be the same for the PSVita.
It will be almost impossible for them to include a decent battery if they want to make money, and with 1-2 hours of battery life, there really is now way any intelligent person is going to buy it.
There simply is no reason why to buy it. Everything the PSVita can do can be done better by the PS3, except the touchscreen thing.
On the other hand, the PS3 has motion controls, the PSVita doesn't. This means, the PSVita is either going to fail, or Sony will once again lose lots of money.


Secondly, graphics won't be as important anymore for future gens.
The only thing you buy a Sony console/handheld for is high-end-tech, whereas Nintendo loves to invent things the dudebro/"hardcore" crowd likes to call "gimmicky".
In my eyes, these Nintendo inventions are what distinguishes console/handheld gaming from PC gaming. CPUs, GPUs and memory are getting better all the time, it's ridiculous to base one's console on better specs once they don't matter as much anymore.
Don't understand me wrong, I usually don't take the Nintendo-fanboy-"graphics don't matter!"-approach. IMO, graphics have been a driving force in video game history, but many up-to-date video games already look extremely real. I'm perfectly content with sub-PS360 graphics if I get unique gameplay in return.
Sadly, Sony showed with the PSVita that they're going to follow their path of including cutting-edge processing tech and using every Ninty innovation twice.

What I want to say, is... Look at the SNES controller. It has two shoulder buttons. Then, the N64 controller adds some other buttons and an analog stick. The PSOne controller has four shoulder buttons and two analog sticks. Wohoo, using an innovation from the competitor twice should appeal twice as much to the gamers, right?
Later, one player could use two black WiiMotes with an ugly orb at the same time. Two swords instead of one sword would be cool, right? Frankly, yes, but it isn't innovative.
And now the latest Sony invention: take a PSP, give it a second analog stick and use Nintendo's last innovation twice. There you have it, two touchscreens. EXTREMELY innovative.

You said the new Kirby game's gonna be the best Wii game ever. C'mon, Kirby isn't bad, but you either don't know what you're talking about or you're a Kirby fanboy. Or a troll. Seriously, even Epic Kirby, who seems to be less active recently, should agree that while Kirby is fun, it's not quite on the same level as Mario and Zelda. At least it wasn't in the past, and we don't have enough information on the new Kirby to judge how it's going to be.

First of all COD sucks...just sayin...

Agreed.

I am of course referring to Kirby Wii...which will completely pwn every Wii game...

You forgot about Okami. This game'll never be owned. I gotta admit, though, that it originally was a PS2 game.

Wertville, you vastly overrated the difference HD makes...

You on the other hand are either vastly underrating the difference 3D makes, or you are wearing fanboy glasses yourself and can't admit that 3D rulz (would be strange as Sony likes 3D, too).

Saying the PS3 does everything VIta does better is just an odd statement

Well, I didn't know that the battery life actually is that long. Ignore that particular statement, it only makes sense (at least a bit) if you think of the Vita as a handheld with limited mobility, which it would be with a battery life of less than 2-2.5 hours. I've got to admit it's better than I thought, though it's still not innovative enough. Sony did make a step forwards, but they have to innovate on a much bigger scale if they want me to like them .

Red is my favorite color for Link in both SSBMelee and Soul Calibur 2, so I would LOVE it if he had red clothes in the next Zelda =)

Look at the attached pictures of the Spaceworld Zelda tech demo and Zelda: Twilight Princess. There's quite a big difference. If the new Zelda tech demo is already beyond PS360 level, a Nintendo IP at the end of WiiU's life cycle is going to look awesome.

Nice picture I've found at deviantart.

Wii: Okami
DS: Pokemon White/Okamiden
3DS: Super Street Fighter IV
PC: Grand Theft Auto IV

Favourite Genre: Adventure and Racing

You like Okami? Awesome taste. Should give you 1+ for this, but... I won't

Maybe there will be 2 or more bundles? A WiiU for "casual" gamers bundled with WiiSportsU and another one bundled with GRO.

Does anyone know what time in england they're gonna be at?

5 PM GMT+0 is Ninty's conference

the rest:
Microsoft - 5:00 PM GMT+0
Electronic Arts - 9:00 PM GMT+0
Ubisoft - 11:00 PM GMT+0
Sony - 2:00 AM GMT+0 (Tuesday)

I really like the controller's size because I noticed the 3DS to get uncomfortable after two hours of Street Fighter :DJokes aside, what excites me most is the ability to have two different views of a scene. For example, imagine a Zelda where you can travel between different times. You have to visit a dungeon twice, and in the future, you have to solve a riddle, like lighting some torches in the right order. In the past, there's some kind of hint how to do it, and you're able to make a "screenshot" of it. Then, in the future, you display the screenshot on the controller's screen and can compare it with the future dungeon you see on your TV. You "hover" the controller over different parts of the TV like showed in the reveal video and write on your touchscreen in what order you have to light the torches. Your notes appear on the TV after that and you can happily move on =D