I'll have to give it a go I guess to see how it plays out. Even watching videos, it's a bit hard to grasp the pacing.

Part of it will just come down to how quick you are as a player.I felt that the fact that you can't necessarily see what the enemy is doing is an interesting design approach, but makes the experience feel less fluid. Felt like a lot of starting and stopping.

Not trial and error. Replaying chapters. If you just look around you can keep track of enemy placements and know where to hide. It's a challenge.

I assume it's mostly replaying chapter because you start off with few characters though right?

 The gameplay seems fast paced enough and I think I will have fun using the FE amiibo too. 

From my demo playthrough, that seemed to be exactly what the gameplay wasn't. Much more slow and methodical than Fire Emblem, which seems to be the obvious comparison for turn based strategy.

I've never played a turn based strategy game before, but the demo sold me on it. As a side note, I hope Nintendo restocks all the FE amiibo so the amiibo functionality doesn't go unused by most.

If you've never played a turn based strategy game before, hurry up and play Fire Emblem Awakening (assuming you weren't placing that in a different genre). It's a lot better than this.

Darksiders 3 please! Although I'm guessing it'd skip the Wii U.

My main question about this is why on earth it's a Wii U exclusive. This would sell a hell of a lot more on Xbox.

OK so it does look considerably better than the earliest material. I'm looking forward to the explanation for carboard box man.

 Does it really? either way I couldnt watch that we need like an english sub version. Either way this was and still is my most anticipated game of the year

Lol I said that before I watched the trailer actually. I think it actually looks about the same as it did originally. It just looks weird to be honest.

Why would they think it'll do better in Europe than the US? Only a few games do.

Haven't played a Doom game since Doom 1 back in the early 90s. I did enjoy that this actually looks like those original games though, in its pace and style. Just ridiculous kinda Mortal Kombat style gore, which is an important part of any civil society :-)

So you gonna rename this forum if the Wii U just dies next year or what?

Game looks pretty good from where I'm sitting. I imagine it's quite a task to create a full 3D RPG with these visuals when you're an indie group.

My only worry is that it'll be a bit simplistic. Story wise and gameplay wise. Hope they prove me wrong.

 

it doesnt look that bad, but surely will not be as good as skies of arcadia

 

the characters on skies of arcadia are badass, these ones kind of feel like meh, i see no determination on their eyes(well maybe the girl passes but her eyes look cold instead of determined)

This could be posted on every new game thread!!

Cool stuff. Although doesn't really matter that it's english with them yapping away for the whole thing!

If these guys could do gameplay as well as they graphics, they'd be damn awesome.

Weren't these guys threatening a video at some point? 

what happened to turn based RPG?

Haha they perfected it in FFX so thought the best next move would be to just completely ditch the concept that they'd invented and perfected.

I dislike the word "indefinitely" here.

http://www.gengame.n...to-kyoto-japan/

http://nintendoevery...to-as-his-base/

Hmmmm, I'm not convinced that was necessarily meant literally. He could've just meant that as a way of saying "it's huge."

When you look at the world map on that preview video, it doesn't look that big. Certainly not as big as XCX! Of course, maybe what we saw wasn't the entire world map.

And I can't really imagine them going that large with Zelda. Just doesn't seem to fit the formula.

What is so hard to understand where he literally uses Kyoto as his base size for Zelda U?

 

 

Been posted in this forum a hundred times how the maps match up. The size matches up.

You have no idea if he meant it literally. It could've just been a bad translation.

Point me at where someone shows that the "size matches up".

That's some pretty heavy Bethesda criticism. I do agree on what you're calling spatial compression as a form of bad game design. The difference between Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 3 is a great example of this. Mass Effect 3 is so clearly designed to appeal to a mainstream audience that you have to have a consistent list of attractions at every single location in the game. Mass Effect 1 feels more like a more believable universe. Planets you explore are mostly barren and empty. There are whole areas in the various "hub" locations that are completely meaningless, but are simply there to be explored. I remember 1 part on the Citadel, you run down a long corridor to someone's office. There's no-one in there. And nothing of interest throughout the entire game. That's actually a good thing. It makes it a more believable world.

I'd love to know what they actually include in their calculations of world size. If there's a lake that's 1mile x 1mile in area with an interesting island at the centre of it, I'm betting they include that whole square mile in their arithmetic. Which is kinda cheating. 

if Nintendo's claim is correct yes. They claim the size of Kyoto. So Zelda U is maybe double the size of XCX.

Can I have a reference to that?

This is news to me too.