Didn't you notice Feld0 posted his comment a minute before Auzzie? You'll work it out lol

I think it is a little unrealistic to imagine that particular story-line produced as 3 separate parts. You should check out the 'split-timeline' theory for The Legend of Zelda to start with. Majora's Mask was released because OoT was so enormously popular, but that was in many respects to merit the game engine to the greatest extent, and realise Miyamoto's concept ideas about having a 'real world' environment recording events, running in real time and set into everyone's own individual game experience. So, altering of the environment and such like.

I know I have seen a link posted by one of the Guides/Mods recently that shows a video to that particular theory for Zelda's timeline, i'll see if I can try to find it here, or on YouTube.

Anyhow, Auzzie just misunderstood you. It sounds weird speaking of 3 consecutive releases on 3DS (two of which would be re-makes) as a trilogy. I just feel it wouldn't happen, but I get that what you mean by saying trilogy is that these 3 releases, would be just that. Three games on the 3DS all happening to have story in common. It is uncertain to whether they will produce a re-make of MM at all. This may be what they are saying; acknowledging the interest, but opting for a completely new game so to satisfy a new audience, and hope to broaden the appeal of the series. It may be a breakthrough title for the LOZ series!

Anyhow, I think they will go for something completely new, and take good advantage of the 3D. It isn't like the 3DS is limited in hardware, like the DS, so we will certainly not see any isometric style gameplay any time soon! Maybe we will see gameplay similar to OoT or MM, but it will be more advanced. Chances are, it will have a stronger appeal (much like TP) and have an art-style that is well suited to the concept. This has been the case for all Zelda games so far.

[EDIT] SDY posted the video in his own thread here.. http://thewiiu.com/topic/1292-ask-sdy/

...and the edit here...

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Easy, no one beats Conker.



He is funny, cruel, loves babes, loves alcohol and loves to kill teddybears. What else can you possibly want more?

Sounds like someone who needs help..ha!

Pikmins

Yoshi

Vivian

Mario

Zelda

Link

Peach

Bowser

Aryll

Koops

Makar

Shiek

Kirby

Pikachu

Quite a list you have there man!...Who's Vivian? lolz

For me though.....

Samus Aran...she is in some ways like the underdog, but just waaaay too cool to fault in any way shape or form

Has anyone got any ideas or speculative theories on how Nintendo seem to be managing their own brand image? There is just too much negativity surrounding Nintendo, and what, because they like to brand their business to as many people as possible? I hardly know anyone anymore that appreciates the company like I do. Even my Dad had made a point to me recently saying "You're really faithful to Nintendo aren't you?". I of course had to agree, but it was more of a moment where I noticed my own self belief in the company, and that I actually care a lot about them doing the right thing. I want to play their games for as long as I live!

They aren't spoken of much at all amongst many students I know or core-gamers, unless someone wants to criticise them. I don't think it is just because there was the lull of the Wii, or poor launch of the 3DS, but something more cultural.

If they want to appeal to a market that is now looking furthermore distant (unreachable even?), as well as newer generation of gamers having no interest, or confidence in the company...what next? Surely they can't assume they will just throw out 3rd Party support similar to what is available on 360 or PS3. A promise of addition 3rd Party support is certainly not a bad step at all, but is only really changing matters once the console is actually launched. Between now and then, some changes need to be made so to make Nintendo worth everyone's attention once more. In years to come I can expect there to be greater acceptance to the company, but I am just not feeling totally comfortable right now with the level of support they seem to have. Doesn't it bother you that people seem to negate their image?

I remember when it was speculated on David's blog, that it may just end up being called 'Nintendo' and that sounded okay for me..considering that I hadn't seen the unveiling of it at E3, just was nice to imagine it was purely and simply one powerful loads of awesumz! Touch screen controller, or not

ALL IN ALL...it is way too early to speculate on whether the Wii U is gonna slip through the fingers of a great opportunity.

I think Nintendo will make a grand job of it's release, no matter what expectations end up becoming reality (regarding third party support). From all the lessons learnt as an 'independent' [important] video games hardware/software developer over the years (not too mention the monitoring throughout the whole of the HD generation so far), it will be tasteful and will make every opportunity in their advantage. Innovation has proven to work out very well. Unlike the 3DS however, Nintendo won't focus the brand really heavily on just one innovative feature that will actually have anything to do with playing the games.

I can see them going the same route as Apple have many times before, and introduced things that are so well designed, people will ignore that it has been done before WHILST they also bring another new dimension to playing home video games. To say the Wii U's been rejected already is just not right.

I want a game for the Wii U that:

• Is generally non-violent
• Has graphics on par with the industry's cash-cow FPSs
• Contains both "natural" looking and "man made" environments
• Is open world

Sounds very much like Bioshock (we aren't gonna get the new release are we?), or a Fallout release. Why do these seem unlikely?

A bigger and better idea may crop up...

It can get better...

Cool...was all that necessary though? lol

You must really like this kind of game! Can't say I've played it, or been much aware tbh!

Maybe something like "Zoo Resort Wii U" that can have at least 20 zones (instead of just 10) to build for your zoo. There would be at least 300 species of animals to add to, all living and extinct. In addition to 108 species of animals from the 3DS version, it would have the following:

Mammals:

West Indian Manatees
Bottlenose Dolphins
[...]
Short-Nosed Echidnas
Malayan Flying Foxes
Vampire Bats

Total: 79

Birds:

Ducks
Geese
Mute Swans
[...]
Green Peafowls
Whooping Cranes
Stanley Cranes
Sandhill Cranes
Brown Kiwis

Total: 40

Reptiles & Amphibians

Chinese Alligators
Black Caimans
Spectacled Caimans
Nile Crocodiles
[...]..!?!
American Lobsters
Giant Isopods

Total: 34

Extinct:

American Mastodons
Woolly Rhinoceroses
Cave Lions
Cave Bears
Giant Ground Sloths
Glyptodons
Diprotodons
Koala Lemurs
Elephant Birds
Steller's Sea Cows
Blue Bucks
Great Auks
Martinique Musk Rats
Passenger Pigeons
Carolina Parakeets
Pyrenean Ibexes
Baijis

Total: 17

Ummmmm....

... Wait what?

Lol, my reaction exactly.

...no actually what? lolz...my BRAIN!

Well, it's like you said. The only people questioning it are the flaming rage-hating fanboys. Why do they still question it? Because they still don't want to believe that the system that they're a fanboy of is about to be dethroned as having the best graphics.

First off, just to check..you mean 'flaming-rage hating fanboys' right? Rage is a good game

I really don't think people are purposefully making a stab at the WiiU's graphics at all (if there actually is 'hate' amongst gamers..i mean, really?), if anything it is because of Nintendo's branding for their new home console, and that it is once again representing something they [gamers] haven't invested in. Imagine if you really dislike Nintendo and their 'approach' to production, it would force you to make a decision once the option to buying the console opens up; either, swallow your pride and get involved in something new and enjoy what is being offered, or continue to make your excuses to why Nintendo just isn't for you and probably save yourself some money...? I mean, that must be the only advantage to not buying the latest console surely?

People who aren't interested in the Wii U will just move on to talk about XBox 720 and, to some degree, the Playstation 4. If they don't, ignore them! No one likes a flaming-raging fanboy. I will admit mind, my research into these matters is a little out of date...

The 3DS is the first console Nintendo have sold at a loss, and this happened when it was price-cut from $250 to $169.
It will return to profitability by September, I believe.

Wasn't it a similar case with the Nintendo DS? I heard that this was the first time they dropped the price to sell at a loss...

I'm going for

Release £199.99 - Nintendo-land bundled (£229.99 with Darksiders 2)

I'm predicting the Playstation 3 mini at £149.99 with Vita bundle at £249.99 this Christmas

After Xbox 8 announcement/release £174.99

After PS4 release £149.99

Smart predictions! But Wii U will not sell under £169 in my opinion for a loooong time. Probably will start at £229, then £199 and at its heaviest competition the £169. Bet you!

Took some digging, but I found it!

http://wiiugo.com/re...game-transfers/

Nice one man! Thanks, there are also a few other posts that address the same queries Reggie and Iwata were pressed about.

Remember Virtual Boy?......big,big,big LOSS:(

Taking a loss on something that has commercially failed doesn't really stand up to the mark in this debate. It is clearly all about the 'potential' price-cut soon after a console is released. This is to ultimately make a success out of its life-cycle when considered against its competitors in the market place. It is a strategy in hope of achieving long-term sales. If actual console sales rise much-farther beyond a point where it is deemed a 'successful' campaign, Nintendo are surely making a commercially successful product.

The 3DS is 'arguably' on the way to becoming a commercial success, but could also be considered 'on the fence' in regards to this. The DS had a similar story whilst still gathering global sales after its launch period thinned out, but since it ended up a massive success, we should all be confident that Nintendo know by now how to handle the launch of their own hardware. Whether at a point, a console is making a loss or not, yet is still sustaining momentum so to drive the product further into the market, Nintendo will still be making games + hardware for another 50 years.

$300. Final. I wish nintendo was allowed to put a price for us europeans.

We really don't know at what base they will be imagining the 'real' price structure to surround. It could be the Yen, American Dollar, hell maybe even the Euro (but thats in crisis so probably not lol)...so all this guess-work will probably not pay off. We only have things local to compare with our assumptions. You cannot really compare the Wii U to anything here and now (unless you have any suggestions? And don't remind me on current consoles..they're dated for over 5 years) so discovering a price is tough. What I'm sure we would all agree on, with the right balance of quality and value for money is anything between £299 and £399..but even with that much, I am not confident I am correct at all.

"It is not going to be priced like Wii" Reggie? It will be a serious piece of kit. That can come at a high price, and especially since we always get premium prices in Europe, it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to introduce it just over £400...god forbid >.<

I don't quite see what poverty has to do with this...Wii U will be a premium product, and won't really be marketed to new buyers or lower income families indefinitely. There is already a core audience of gamers who would take the step up, whether you own a Wii, PC, PS3 (XBox gamers...?!) or a family member that has become familiar with Nintendo. Just seems like that way to me

Maybe someone could cough up the link where Reggie explains about target audience for Wii U? No matter what the conversion costs are from Asia to the west, it will be at a price that will most likely be steep against casual gaming in each region.

I think it is possible for the Wii U to be priced at $299.99. Reggie did say once that Wii U would be priced competitively with PS3 and 360. Plus, that is price that will surely lure more people in and allow Nintendo to keep Wii U at that price for 2-3 years.

Not for a launch price, I really can't see that happening. Competitively yeah, indeed! But that won't happen till no one buys it o_O

Yes it is. My friends hate using the Wiimote and I will not buy 4 upads. So my 3 friends will use CCPS and I will use the Upad. They should make a new CCP though. Because I don't want to connect it to the Wiimote and it's not wireless.

Wavebird Ultra

Reggie has also said it is not going to priced like the Wii was, so one of his statements (which have both been said) is wrong. We will have to find out when we are told the official price .

Here the source of my information: http://mynintendonew...igher-than-wii/

My source exactly This seems to be one of the biggest signifiers to a realistic price point O.o

The DS was never sold at a loss.

Fair. Can't remember where this info was even from. Although, I remember it was definitely on a page justifying the 3DS price drop. Probably an article for the DS having a similar cut early in it's life. Looking now at wiki, the price only dropped $30 like, two years later.

Anyway, I hope the Wii U won't be set that high so sales are slower than expected again. Although my predictions was $350 at the lowest, now I think it should be lower. Not that it is important right now, presentation and coverage started! JOY XD

It was sold for a loss in Japan at one time. I remember Iwata mentioning this to investors after the 3DS price drop in order to calm them down.

Oh really? Maybe I wasn't making it up then o_O

Nintendo usually like their prices cheap.

Back in E3 2001 when they announced the Gamecube, they said for it to be affordable.

They dropped the price of the Wii.... twice.

The 3DS got a price drop in a few months.

So, we may have a chance of it being a fair price. But since its HD, and that controller... Probably pretty expensive.

So what are you saying then?

Dunno how many of you guys are europe based here (seems less than half anyway) but the only way I could find value in the uk was to get the zombiu pack.Sort of takes the edge off it by including the game and pro controller

I totally agree with you here dude. I have got a £20 deposit down at GAME, where £359.99 gets you the Premium console (Black) with Nintendo Land of course AND ZombiU AND a pro controller. 2 games and a controller for an extra £90 basically. Bangin!