PS4....Might not even be one. If you dont know Sony's situation I will just say in 2 years time they could be completly erased of the planet. No Sony = No PS4.

As for the 720.....Why would anyone buy it next holiday season? There wont be a main game at launch that gets people to get it. No Halo 5 or Gears game. So Wii U will dominate from Launch till 2-3 years at least.

what launch games has wii u got??? none that blow u away thats for sure

HELL NO!!!

i cant stand for that kind of stupidity

yeah for some reason though nintendo seem to always dissapoint everything gets hyped up with rumours and stuff then when they do something its really REALLY lame

i think it could be nintendo as a company.
maybe there really hard to do buisness with remember its still all run with douches in suits

bioshock is a classic anyone can enjoy this

you sir are a genius!!!!

this has just sealed the deal on my wii u purchase !!!!

duh isn't this logical???

thats the first thing i was thinking

Something for the mature gamers in mind

it wouldnt bother me in the slightest if they did become a software only company

as long as i can still play the games and chances are they would b better graphics too then if they put it on there own systems

excite bots were the best

first of all you need a chisel and a big hammer lol

the wiimote was NOT GOOD AT ALL i never bought a wii my wife did for wii fit and used it once. i thought i wud try met prime 3 good game but the wiimote took me out of the game i didnt feel as immersed because i was always fiddeling with a remote. hence the reason i bought a xbox 360 so i could zone out with the controller an feel complete immersion.

she didnt leak anything guys
i think ur just hearimg what u want to hear

i want online and i dont want it to b a rail shooter

excuse me ITS MAde for phones but wiiu NOT and wiiu needs a down scale EXCUSE ME A PHONE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN Wii U EXCUSE ME

epic HATE nintendo he is clearly making that point and nothing has changed LOL AT FOR PHONES BUT NOT Wiiu

AND LOL @ MULTI PLATFORM ENGINES I WANT WIIU ENGINES

Dude whatever ue4 was what made for wii u in mind the wii u is more suited to ue3

Let's just say this.

Nintendo has learned a lot from IBM working with their tech. Some of that Is applied to the custom power based CPU. The Watson paths and algorithms built for the power architecture are a huge gain as well. The CPU itself is much more powerful than anything available in a console currently. no doubt the power pc capabilities inherent to a power CPU are greatly enhanced and will be utilized heavily. But there is more...

I'm thinking IBM had to have given Nintendo a sweetheart deal for them to have what they have. IBM has lost Microsoft this time and Sony is going x86 as well. Can see them wanting to make a fight of it.

The GPU is very nice as well. For those thinking they can simply buy the same gpu or an upgrade of it are missing the point. The wii u does not use a stock PC gpu. Also, because of the efficiency inherent to a console package and due to nintendos relentless focus on efficiency and refinement, the Wii U handily outperforms any PC with comparable specifications.

My prediction/hypothesis/whatever:

The wii U wil look marginally better than current systems at launch. The many ports are limited by default as those games began life on lesser systems and were built around those limitations.

About a year after launch, the real gods become available. Games written specifically to take advantage of the superior firepower running on engines built/modified/enhanced to run on said hardware.

They will be ready to face off against the launch hype of Microsoft and Sony new consoles.

There is a reason why so many are excited about what the wii u allows us to make. But for those looking to sell soon, they have had to deal with the lowest common denominator dev kits for performance budgeting, current game engines, porting from older architectures, etc.

Nintendo isn't coming up with a 360+ type system. They ate ushering in the next generation.

Just like microsoft did with the 360-and it's games looked like Xbox 1 games until a year after launch as well.

i like your thinking. like u said the only thing that will be a let down would be no 3rd party support in the future. the fact that they are saying is the will be "dumbed down " for wii u dosnt bother me.


i still look at some ps360 games and think wow graphic wise. im pretty happy with the current graphics of this gen if the wii u can take it further to 1080p then its a bonus for me
however in australia the pre order price is $600!!!

nintendo should have just listened to half there fan base to know we wanted a normal controller back

Don't discount a game simply because of it's rating. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, that is fine, but let other people enjoy it.

thats exactly right
and dont forget that its these games nintendo are hoping sell the console

i dontbuy mariogames anyway