nintendo has dropped the ball

how long is a piece of string??

im sick of this " the wii u hasnt shown us its full potential blah blah blah ps4 hasnt been RELEASED YET the wii u has been released for how long?? ps4 smashes it already killzone etc mite not be made of final hardware either so it could improve sorry but wii u loses this one

Im affraid the killzone in game clip they showed BLOWS EVERY GAME ive seen so far on wii u or coming to wii u away!! anyone who says the graphics were not much better than wii u needs there eyes tested!! and the console is NOT EVEN RELEASED YET!!

I know we havnt seen the best of wii u but we have far from seen the best of ps4.

im with this guy

i think there pretty good specs certainly going to b a improvment over last gen

been there played that

Let's just say this.

Nintendo has learned a lot from IBM working with their tech. Some of that Is applied to the custom power based CPU. The Watson paths and algorithms built for the power architecture are a huge gain as well. The CPU itself is much more powerful than anything available in a console currently. no doubt the power pc capabilities inherent to a power CPU are greatly enhanced and will be utilized heavily. But there is more...

I'm thinking IBM had to have given Nintendo a sweetheart deal for them to have what they have. IBM has lost Microsoft this time and Sony is going x86 as well. Can see them wanting to make a fight of it.

The GPU is very nice as well. For those thinking they can simply buy the same gpu or an upgrade of it are missing the point. The wii u does not use a stock PC gpu. Also, because of the efficiency inherent to a console package and due to nintendos relentless focus on efficiency and refinement, the Wii U handily outperforms any PC with comparable specifications.

My prediction/hypothesis/whatever:

The wii U wil look marginally better than current systems at launch. The many ports are limited by default as those games began life on lesser systems and were built around those limitations.

About a year after launch, the real gods become available. Games written specifically to take advantage of the superior firepower running on engines built/modified/enhanced to run on said hardware.

They will be ready to face off against the launch hype of Microsoft and Sony new consoles.

There is a reason why so many are excited about what the wii u allows us to make. But for those looking to sell soon, they have had to deal with the lowest common denominator dev kits for performance budgeting, current game engines, porting from older architectures, etc.

Nintendo isn't coming up with a 360+ type system. They ate ushering in the next generation.

Just like microsoft did with the 360-and it's games looked like Xbox 1 games until a year after launch as well.

i like your thinking. like u said the only thing that will be a let down would be no 3rd party support in the future. the fact that they are saying is the will be "dumbed down " for wii u dosnt bother me.


i still look at some ps360 games and think wow graphic wise. im pretty happy with the current graphics of this gen if the wii u can take it further to 1080p then its a bonus for me
however in australia the pre order price is $600!!!

there making metroid online with cryengine
will b the biggest online project and most graphic intensive game on a nintendo console ever. it will have dlc maps etc etc expect lush rainforests and amazingly beutiful alien worlds. it will b an open unizerse with flight missions to different planets and maybe a starfox cameo appearance. expect 1080p 30fps.

yeah its deffinatly metroid cryengine or not it will look good dnt expect much more than ps360 graphics but it will look good

cryengine 3. that would be beleaveable, but were did you get the info?

im just taking a stab in the dark.... it does sound really logical though
also how would Metroid support multy(online)?

i want online and i dont want it to b a rail shooter

Haven't you heard? It's "hip" or "cool" to hate on Nintendo. It, like, proves your status in the gamer community, or something.

thats ridiculous grow up maybe they are complaining about because the wii u isnt wat they want in a console people arnt hating on nintendo because its cool or hip but because it was a major dissapointment in there eyes. i dnt hate on nintendo but i question there hardware choices. its 2013 i want something powerful. powerful enough to garuntee the next gen multiplats . i dnt think the wii u is strong enough to get them.

if nintendo beefed up the specs and put a higher price tag to garuntee a 5-6 yr lifespan it would not hav bothered me. even if it was $600 its still a fair price for a console that will last 6 years the wii has stayed around for about that time i know but last 2 years hasnt really had any games ( that interest me)

ofcourse it is wii u wont win this one

Because Eternal Darkness was one of the best games on the GameCube
Because Eternal Darkness gained a massive fanbase
Because Eternal Darkness made a very innovative game
Because Eternal Darkness was an amazing adult game for a system everyone said was for kids.
Because this is a spiritual successor/sequel to Eternal Darkness

Because it's awesome.

eternal darkness was the 2nd best game on gamecube it was a masterpeice im glad they made a sequal because nintendo wont

fingers crossed this game is good this will make me buy a wii u + wiikey and purchase the game

Look on Miiverse. Look at how many people are pleased with their Wii U console. I personally think that NSMBU is the best NSMB game, with the one on 3DS following far behind, and i am sure many others think that too. Nintendo Land is good, and you haven't played the best minigames- Takamarus ninja castle, Mario chase, Metroid blast ect. I haven't played ZombiU so i can't really deliver a valid point for that, but the reviews are mixed, so let that speak.

Just wait for more games on the Wii U. Is it the graphics you don't like? Nintendo haven't really bothered about graphics except on the gamecube- That didn't really sell well, so since then, nintendo hasn't cared that much for graphics.
It's not them that deliver a good game, it's how fun a game is.

the only reason the gamecube didnt sell is because it couldnt play dvds

yeah its a joke

i dnt c the the xbox conference a failure it was about the system not games. games will b revealed @ e3 like they said .

PS4....Might not even be one. If you dont know Sony's situation I will just say in 2 years time they could be completly erased of the planet. No Sony = No PS4.

As for the 720.....Why would anyone buy it next holiday season? There wont be a main game at launch that gets people to get it. No Halo 5 or Gears game. So Wii U will dominate from Launch till 2-3 years at least.

what launch games has wii u got??? none that blow u away thats for sure

come on guys we have heard these rumours to many times by so many people there has to b truth in it. weather its a little bit more powerful or on par with ps360. i think it is a little more powerful and im thinking cause its new tech they might be able to optimize it abit more but if its on par were in trouble cause evrything has been squeezed out of the current gen already which means basically wat ur seeing now is wat ur gunna get

excuse me ITS MAde for phones but wiiu NOT and wiiu needs a down scale EXCUSE ME A PHONE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN Wii U EXCUSE ME

epic HATE nintendo he is clearly making that point and nothing has changed LOL AT FOR PHONES BUT NOT Wiiu

AND LOL @ MULTI PLATFORM ENGINES I WANT WIIU ENGINES

Dude whatever ue4 was what made for wii u in mind the wii u is more suited to ue3

Don't discount a game simply because of it's rating. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, that is fine, but let other people enjoy it.

thats exactly right
and dont forget that its these games nintendo are hoping sell the console

is this for 3ds? it looks like it

can anyone please elaborate on the gpgpu.
i want details ppl!!

i wish i cud say im shocked and surprised its not coming but u know... its no shock. just another nail in the coffin