Sorry if this has been said, but i was gonna put up with the lame effort thats been reported on this game cos i love Aliens But i heard that for absolutly no reason, theres a stage or stages where your fighting actual men that all look the same instead of aliens !!! I mean WTF check out the cvg review its the biggest gaming mistake since style boutique !

like a mug ill still buy it though, but please the wii u versions not out yet, just fix it and make a shetty thing good !

who ever made this game lost there nerve some where down line when the making of this title. The game, to replicate the film styles should have always been a survival horror, atmospheric, andtence! I think we were all expecting that, but its really more like an arcade, alien blast fest, a half assed film tie in.
Maybe making a game where there are less enemys but succeds in keeping our attention through anticipation and atmosphere is a very hard thing to do! I could imagine after a year of making it, playing it every day, getting board and saying, "MORE ALIENS, WE NEED MORE TO SHOOT AT", thus ruining a game that could have been great.

lol fair points but wrong mate, apart from the epic bit, unreal 4 might run but devs will use 3 on wii u to make there games run better, im looking for source on that.
Number 5 was nothing about power it clearly says BIG MARKETING CAMPAIGN.
Look im a nintendo fan too ( lol hard to believe from recent posts ) i do like the wii u, but im just anoyed at nintendos sheer ignorance towards developers needs, meaning this great console will be snubbed for big new titles i will want to play. I see it like this.........
imagine you ask me to build wall, you say to me, "what do you need", i say "bricks, cement, a shovel, and spirit level, and it will be perfect". You bring me everything i need except the cement, "the wall aint gonna last" i tell you.... do you see my point lol

Who cares about N64 and GC guys, that argument is no longer relevant, im glad theres a lot of us nintendo fans who feel the same way at this time.
When nintendo were developing the wii u they must have looked at ways to win back there old customers who have gone over to PS and XBOX, im sure there list looked a bit like this,
1. Games, NOT first party but 3rd party, if these customers were truly in love with mario n zelda, they wouldnt have bought xbox's.
2. Internet and online play, obviously.
3. Power, most people have HD tvs now so nintendo should make use of that. And after all, no developer creating new and existing i.ps for next gen consoles ( supposedly like ours ) wants to be restricted by lack of power and the inability to run the newest graphics engine.
4. Make it seem more adult, if they keep slapping a picture of mario next to a nintendo logo nobody will believe nintendo are evolving.
They did well with the zombie u ad campaign, but it was hardly a ground breaker.
5. BIG BIG BIG Marketing campaign.
Its a fairly simple list but if they were serious about winning back gamers thats what was needed.
Heres another example of there failure with this console.
Unreal 4 we all new it was in development last year, and you my not like the games using unreal but for christ sake ps3 n xbox users do, the wii u cant use it, what ever anybody says, unreal said that unreal 3 is what the wii u will use. WHY THE F*#K WOULD YOU NOT MAKE A CONSOLE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO USE AN ENGINE HUNDREDS OF DEVS ARE CURRENTLY PRODUCING GAMES WITH FOR NEXT GEN CONSOLES! WE WILL MISS OUT AGAIN!!!!!
NINTENDO LISTEN , MAKE A FREEKIN CONSOLE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO RUN YOUR GAMES AND BIG 3RD PARTY GAMES AND YOU WIN THE CONSOLE WAR! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SO SO SO SIMPLE !

Im beggining to believe that because people and devs bang on at nintendo about making there machines more powerful, the old guys still running nintendo have said, "we no best, look at our track record, which is fair enough, but please please please, dont leave nintendo on a bad note, step down guys while your still seen as legends, i dont want to read an article headlined "the rise and fall of nintendo" with pictures of we all no who underneith.

I don't think it's Nintendo's fault that the companies want to give NIntendo the shaft.

after seeing xbox one presentation, i feel like thats what nintendo wanted all along, motion control, all in one, they just made a toy version of it. E3 come on nintendo please do us proud !

it truly is all in one though, and how quick were the apps swaped i mean wow! how long would it take us to stop playing a game and start watching a film on netfix on wii u. now ive heard somebodys argument saying wii u is the only dedicated games console, and all the xbox power is needed for all the services it provides outside gaming.
EXACTLY, wiitv, internet, gaming, mii verse, not exactly a truly dedicated console is it.
So at least do it like (and i hate to say it) microsoft just did.

we all care about graphics, other wise we would still have black and white t.v's. As nintendo fans its kinda in our nature to say 'we dont care about visuals', defending ourselfs against our xbox n ps owning friends but now we got a console that kind of stands up to them, the problem aint graphics now, the problem is all the games we will probably miss out on, due to a certain amount of extra grunt that for some bizzare reason, even after research, and discussions with developers about what they need to make the games work well, nintendo said, no, this is all your getting! Like a parent holding a cookie jar, and only giving us half a cookie! WHY?

Hunter, on 18 May 2013 - 5:59 PM, said:lol

As if this thread wasn't dumb enough already, you actually think not getting fifa is a big deal.

Your question has been answered millions of times already, and if you had bothered to use the search bar on this site you would have realised that before making this thread.

FYI power isn't what makes a console good.

Oh please stop, FIFA is a great game and has been enjoyed by millions for years so shut it. If nintendo marketed the wii u saying " this machine will have, in time, a few of our new and old first party games in hd, and some ps3 n 360 ports" i could except the wii u as it is now, but they didnt, did they.

Ok, now ive seen the other 2 consoles and the games coming out, and ive seen the nintendo selection first and third party, it seems this gen will be won by exclusive i.p's. Im impressed with how bayonetta 2 looks, (although it did kinda look like a lot of on the rails action, which im hoping isnt the case) so im glad to see the wii u has got some power, i just hope theres no crazy framerate drop in some of the more graphically impressive titles. The new mario, and smash bros did not wow me half as much as galaxy and smash did on the wii, but im sure will sell units which is what its all about now. Mario kart looks fun and will be a day one buy for me. Im still upset that that the PS4 is the same price as the WII U was at launch and is technically a lot more future proof and developer friendly, Nintendo did promise us a console that would win over xbox n ps gamers, this is clearly not the case and if i want to play battlefield or gtv then im gonna have to get xbox one which sucks. Im happier but Nintendo still messed up when it came to power, just a little more and we could have had it all, sigh.

The point is that if nintendo comunicated and listened to the developers making the games they wanted to see on wii u we wouldnt be in this mess. If anybody says but need for speed as pc textures again ill scream! i play it on ps3 as well as wii u and there is bearly any difference at all. They claim the controler is the next gen part but i have a tablet, thats not next gen! Has any body seen microsoft illumiroom? look it up on youtube, thats inovation. I feel like i may come accross as troll but im not, i run a business of my own and businesses should keep evolving or risk being left behind.
If it was possible id like nintendo offer full refunds to its customers, take back the consoles, salvage any parts, sell them or reuse them and start again. I cant understand why console makers cant make there machines upgradable like pcs, that way insuring customers have the choice to make machines as powerful as they want them.

i dont care, they must of had a clue at what sony and microsoft were making, and they no to make things easier for developers to produce big cross platform games to make a console on a par with whats coming out, and ive stated this a million times THEY PROMISED THEY WOULD WIN BACK GAMERS BY WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS TO GET BIG TITLES RELEASED ON NINTENDOS NEW PLATFORM!
I spent £350 as i trusted nintendo on there statements, i have been loyal for over 15 years and i feel that they have lied to us.
They are not stupid ! They new what the next gen consoles would need power wise to make developers want to make big cross platform games , and they stuck 2 fingers up at them and i hate to say it, us!
If the next gen sony or microsoft costs the same as what i paid for my wii u, i will not buy another nintendo product until the guys running nintendo have gone.
That hurt me to say it but its how i feel.

Mushlikeahusky25, on 18 May 2013 - 5:50 PM, said:I think they are trying to get the 3rd party devs we will know by this E3 and such. I think we pretty much have all the nintendo games revealed already I mean how many more games can they make?
but thats the thing, they could have had them from the start if they just made a console developers didnt have to down port everything, making there vision happen as they intended it, not a half baked port using different teams and weaker graphics engines, which costs thousands! Its a bit like making avatar in beautiful HD 3D but realising people can only watch it in black and white!
Its easy to say developers are at fault, they are people at the top of there game who just want to use the tech around to realise there dreams, why should they come up with an amazing concept for a game using tech that is being used in next gen consoles, then have to make a game thats no where near there dream because nintendo were to stuburn to use decent hardware in there next gen console?
Thats not encouraging any body?

The fact the fan boys aint ripping me apart says it all, im a fan boy and have had nintendos for over 15 years! I just cant believe tech giants at the top there game can let this happen. Heres what really bugs me,
Nintendo at the end of the wiis life obviously pitched wii u to investors, promising HD next gen graphics, like they did to us, they wanted to bring back core gamers, wowed us with clips of games (that have been canned now) and yet nobody has said "where is all this?" Win back core gamers ! What a joke, forget no gta5 theres no blooming fifa ! Mario kart aint gonna save Nintendo this time, and if heads dont roll at nintendo there properly f..........

Its fair to say that as electrical goods manufacturers go, nintendo are one of the biggest in the world. Agreed?
Then why oh why after years of research leading up to the launch did they not beef up the power??????
I know the recent outburst from that EA employee is completely out of order, but he does make games and he probably knows more about the inner workings of wii u than all of us, it scares the shat out of me, and now one of my favorate games ever, fifa, isnt being made!!!!
Im confused and finding it increasingly hard to understand that a huge games and console manufacturer like nintendo would not make a more powerful machine! I enjoy my wii u but its feels like im clinging on to a dying pet i love.
E3 better be good !

Somebody raised the argument that the 3DS is less powerful than VITA yet outsold it.
Its a handeld so graphics really do play second fiddle to quick adictive gameplay in that market.
But in home consoles we play on our huge screen HD TVS, and watch crystal clear blueray films, we expect the very best visuals fro our consoles, fair enough?

3DS V VITA ! Its all about games n content, not raw power. IF Nintendo drip feed us massive , amazing looking games at the right times, the WIIU will seem like a sensible choice, as its also HD and runs our home entertainment hubs. The xbox n ps are gonna have to be clever to bring us a product thats not just for games and accessable by everyone to stay in the market, games come from everywhere at the moment, phones, tablets, laptops, so to warrent a big spend they gotta bring a lot more than gaming!

Theres no online multiplayer on a console thats supposed bring players together weather there alone oor not. The game looks good but screams tech demo (like red steel did) . Ubisoft threw everything into asc 3, farcry 3, just dance 4, rayman, i just get the feeling its gonna be a short lived but enjoyable game u show ur ps3 mates. Im still buying it though

Ive always wandered why console manufacturers dont design there consoles with the ability for customers to upgrade the systems power. They do it with p.cs and as long as they designed it so its just a matter of plugging and unplugging components it would be a perfect solution. If your happy playing simpler games like Mario and indie titles you leave it, but if you want bigger mmos or shooters you buy an upgrade. All developers need to do is release the the game online and if your system ain't powerful enough it directs you to an online store and you order order your part. Players online ids will show how souped up they are and im sure that it would start a trend similar to people souping up cars etc.

It was one of the reasons I bought the damn console on day one, I showed my wife and she loved that part, now the consoles £100 cheaper and still no sign of it. so if they don't do it soon ill never be able to buy a console on launch day again! Thanks nintendo.

I always do with a nintendo console. As a gamer (a casual one mind) im 33 now but getting the new nintendo console is something i will always do and always will, you cant beat the unboxing with a mate and both going wow at the same time at a gaming memory like "wii sports on wii or mario galaxy, or rouge squadran or need for speed underground on gamecube, or zelda oct or starfox on n64, or super mario world or f zero on snes anyway i cant wait to do the whole unboxing thing with a friend n a few beers

I said something similar to this a while back and "unsurprisingly got abuse from NEARLY everyone on here", its interesting to read Everybody's views a few months on. I'll try again, we all bought wiiu because...
1. we love nintendo.
2. its different and innovative,
3. we were promised big 3rd party support and the big AAA games our sony and Microsoft owning friends were getting
4. tvii which linked all our entertainment hubs together
5. Better online facilities

Now as a customer I trust nintendo and I bought one on day one.
Now I feel like an idiot, even my friends who arnt hatters or trolls, who love nintendo but just went over to ps3 for more adult games (im 35 btw) are shocked and amazed that over a year in and theres still no real amount of games to warrant paying the new low price let alone the price I paid on day one.
Theres no info on tvii, and a lot of the big franchises arnt even making it on to the wiiu ? Where the hell is fifa ?????
I hate to admit it but nintendo have either...
1. F.ed up big big time, (which is fine, we all do it), or..
2. Lied to us.
I hope its not the latter so if they have messed up why not start again and market the big nintendo games and indie games only the system.
If you reply with the answer "dah, who's gonna buy wiiu if there arnt any big 3rd party franchises", the answer is us, who in there right mind would buy a wiiu to play the biggest 3rd party games? There are hardly any being released. So why not market new indie games and first party title only? How many people bought angry birds? So there's a massive market for indie games. If you don't like what I say please dont respond, its weird lol

Is it just me or is everyone in complete denial?
Look at the day one releases for xbox one and ps4, im a nintendo guy all the way, and I know graphics arnt everything but come on, they look incredible.
If wiiu can easily keep up with games like that, why haven't they?
It will be a noticeable downgrade and id rather they didn't bother and just gave us original games made for wiiu.
I mean talk is cheap, go to you tube and watch some of these new games.
Who remembers when we were all hyped up as need for Speed most wanted on wii u had "pc textures" lol I just saw the new forza on xbox one being played, now I feel a bit silly ...

No fifa is a big thing for me.

No way. I read that nintendo looked at remaking twilight princess and skyward sword and decided this was the right one to do? All the videos ive seen do not make it look like a game that requires an hd update. Its a bit like watching the simpsons on hd tv doesnt make it look any better than standard definition because its just plain colours and outlines. The other to zeldas I mentioned earlier would have looked amazing re made. And with amazing looking new generation games coming out nintendo really should have shown off a bit with an hd zelda. It could have shifted a load of consoles