It's nice to see these words from the actual people who CONFIRMLY make games for WiiU, not the ones who are making it in secret
But you notice someting, all of them are praising wiiu, we didn't have much negative at all ... the negative was almost always wrong, fake, april fool, old kits, old news... etc

This is what you need to know about ideaman, his poems might be in a different context, as i said the sources are vague in my thread about ideaman's poems here on this forum (search it)

I won't do a full analysis now since im short on time doing some schools stuff until E3, but my comment is on the "MEMORY" term .... the way he writes it makes me feel he's totally unsure or the source claiming that wheter they actually mean RAM or they mean STORAGE MEMORY

It's pretty BIZZRE why would an OS want to reserve 512MB of memory, that's unheard of for a console, that's so unrealistic. WinXP pro needs less memory than this (350 MB default)

If this is RAM they're talking about it is pretty clear it's not going to stay reserved that much ...

I think this is some kind of micommunication or translation inaccuracy that they might be talking about storage memory, which is also used by the "devs" as in another context maybe being internal nintendo talk or whatever they meant.

You can see the whole post is talking about "size" "place" "space" ... these words never describe RAM in the tech industry, but storage memory.

We don't even know for sure if the "reserve" rumor was in the RAM or Storage memory context in the first place. This reserve rumor is no new, it's been around for some time now, it might have not meant RAM at all. The word "memory" is too vague.

So whatever do people on neogaf think, this one is pretty vague, and I am not sure what to think of it, more no no than yea yea.
Anyways it goes, you can be pretty sure they will not keep this "512" or whatever RAM reserve

There were my big threads around where i explained how important it is to LEARN TO UNDERSTAND RUMORS - some rumors might be a gold mine for the experienced people while an avreage gamer would see no point, some rumors might have opposite context with people who don't have much tech familiarity. (search my posts it's all here)

THIS INFORMATION IS horsing GOLD!

Tech people from neogaf have been on the RIGHT CALL on the GPU all the time, somebody send em my congratulations, I still can't post there, very well detective work!

Thanks to Thraktor, the HD4870 was an temporary ADD-IN card for the early kits. And remember guys my own threads here, that some of the "detectives" might be actual developers masking their identity and leaking guilt in a clever way to get the info out in a confusing and speculative way by just making up their speculation stories I won't really go deep into this since it doesn't matter much now but it's an interesting thought.

Tech guys out there... Radeon 6770... Awesome, good, mediocre, old, meh, crap?

It's what we have been HOPING FOR ! But that's an equivalent, the final is obviously custom and a bit different.

2GB Ram .... this is the MAX of our projection, best case scenario , EVERYTHING, WOW, this is the best day! Feels so good the info comes just the next day from the last night's party and night stuff


OHHHH GOD GOD GOD THIS news and the UPDATED controller OMFG - you guys have no idea how important and SUPER FREAKING this news is. This confirms what we have been speculating, nintendo has made you his mother dog.

Man .... i am a very critical and well experienced guy I don't flip out on the hype so easily and not go crazy .. but this is SOME horsing GOOD NEWS. And I am pretty excited more than ever on this road to E3 2012.

Tech guys out there... Radeon 6770... Awesome, good, mediocre, old, meh, crap?

It's the best case scenario from our very old projections, expectations and constructive speculation which is all from neogaf individuals like rosti, bgasssasin, ...etc etc and beyond3d forums. I could provide links but right now im on another machine and I don't have em bookmarked here.

Still it was known already that Xbox and PS4 will be a little more faster, about 20 to 30%, that's neglible, the point is that the hardware is actually up to date technologically. As a matter of fact, months ago, IGN leaked they know more, by stating that Xbo720 will be 20% stronger, and that is to be expected, totally no negative in that, but the funniest part is, the "20" ... this is a pretty small amount that won't make WiiU fall behind anywhere like the Wii did. Pure awesomeness i tell you, nintendo is horsing winning this every minute that passes and 1 year ahead of competition, or even longer if one party decides to wait longer from those two.

All the replies im going to make right now ... I see too much people not having idea and scope of how horsing important this news is, it's horsing awesome.

More than powerful enough, although as Stewox pointed out, if it is like a 6770, it'll just be an equivalent custom chip, not an actual 6770.

But yeah, this is a fake news post which is made up of lots of Neogaf rumours.

Is it fake ? How ?

I wasn't thinking of that at all since ubisoft has so much leaks, but what the heck, maybe it's a stupid dev, i know there are many. The fact that is shocked me is one thing, but when I'll have a more further look, I think something feels too good to be true, the 6GHZ does ...

One of the biggest factors is that the information is very compatible with the actual ture information, just because it's neogaf speculation doesn't mean it's wrong, actually specuation on neogaf and beyond3d is the most accurate and I am talking about individuals,not the tons of other people who are in for the lulz.

The info is also consistent with the ideamans hints, it's over 1GB, but it's not over 2GB of RAM ... so the info isn't at all that bad unless it was made to look like it, however the biggest point of being fake might be the developer said where he works.

I've just came here so I don't know if there was proof or not, and i haven't even checked all the pages ... give me some moments.

Seems fake, since Nintendo said they wasn't going to announce the release date on e3. But this guys says it releases in Novemeber.

The 6770 can't run bf3 in even 30fps

You are making a mistake.

DO NOT COMPARE PC ANYTHING WITH CONSOLES. The software layers on PC prevent it from getting the max optimizations and optimal performance, it's a significant amount, depends on how good the engine is, drivers, OS, API ... which on the Windows PC are one of the worse shape in the industry.

Very seriously meaning, search my posts on this forum here and you'll understand. I don't have em bookmarked here so I cant get you the links right now.

Some more translations just came in... Looking good so far, but I'm still wondering how much "less powerful" it is than Xbox 8, and the lack of triggers is dissapointing.

But on the bright side, UNREAL ENGINE 4 CONFIRMED! (maybe)



>Wii U has 2GB of RAM, 560MB of that are for the OS
>supports DX11, they managed to port Unreal Engine 4 on it
>less powerful than Xbox 8
>2 tablet-pads are supported
>Release Date: 23 November
>Ubisoft will bring Rayman Legends, ACIII, Rabbids Party, Killer Freaks, The Avengers and Just Dance 4 on it
>That little button under the D-Pad on the left of the controller is somehow linked to the Wii Vitality Sensor
>No Analog R2/L2 unlike 360 controller/DualShock3

This news as it seems fake to you guys .... especially the UE4 wiiu version part, is pretty obvious even without any other speculation that UE4 will be on WiiU, this is a few factors and another thing is just understanding the tech ... it's pretty clear that you'll be using something more than UE3 on WiiU , it might not be UE4 as per naming, because they might take the updated one ... which they said is like UE3.9 ... Epic did a lot of updating on the UE3 engine, UE4 will have parts rewritten from scratch that's why it's called as such, new version, all of the things will be better supported, better working, faster, ... and other improvements, from a graphics point of view, for making big games, it's pretty much not going to be different on WiiU in the graphics side, the reason to use UE4 is obvious that i'll be more efficient, thus allowing the games to get bigger in scope, unless you want to have a corridor shooter and then you can ramp up the graphics significantly, they might not have UE4 ready for launch and they might push out UE3.9 at first ...

The post might be fake, but the actual info is accurate.

as long as it can receive next gen ports then im fine with it being less powerful.

It was going to be less powerful, old news, everyone in the tech community expected that, and everyone is fine with it, since gameplay matters, not hardware.

>Xbox 8's graphic card will be more powerful than Wii-U's
>However, Ubisoft isn't developing on Microsoft's new console yet

Those two statements rather contradict eachother. How can they know it's more powerful if they haven't even started working with the console yet?

>No Analog R2/L2 unlike 360 controller/DualShock3



It definitely looks like there's two shoulder buttons there, and I can't think of a legit reason for them to get rid of a pair of shoulder buttons.

>This developed decided to leak these informations on Mario's castle because, by going in a more populated forum, he would have risked too much

He's already risked his job by posting them anyway. It'd have been easier for him to keep his mouth shut.


>Wii-U's launch price will 450$
>After what happened with 3DS' launch, however, Nintendo decided to lower Wii-U's price: the final one hasn't been confirmed yet, but apparently it will be about 350-400$

It will be $450, but it won't be $450? Really?

Even though I can agree with a few of the statements given here (or at least slightly believe them) I'm calling this list fake. Just too many contradictory statements.

Whatever the circumstances, the info is accurate, some parts less or more, some might be exaggerations some might be developers own lack of knowledge, they do have their internal

The industry on the inside knows a lot more than you think, friends, and closed-internal whispering, rumors, and

There is more than half of happenings in the industry that actually never get out to public, think about it. Some of the stuff gets out 5 or more years later, or at the bankruptcy ... remember the ex-AMD engineer speakout, remember that Activision could have bought Blizzard for mere 7million in 1995.

a lot of this is very promising, yet i hope its not true. i want more, i want splinter cell 6, not just the games listed above, i also want 4 tablet support. i also want analogue triggers and an earlier release date.

4 tablet support will never be useful for core AAA games unless it's some casual game

It won't happen at launch that's for sure ... you just hold your horses on jumping to conclusions.

2 is enough for local multiplayer, the core community is okay with that, the tablets are expensive, even if it supports, not many people will go buy 3 of them separately. So if you want to have a party you'll need 3 people with the console to get theirs too.

The controller might retail for something like 70-80 dollars.

Keep in mind there is a difference between a video card in a PC and the same card in a console. Consoles have less overheads and are optimised regards the hardware. Not to mention every version of the same console is identical where as PC's vary in specs. You really can't compare the performance of a graphics card between a PC and a games console.

Thank you.

Only Microsoft Products support DirectX unless he meant DX11 like effects. Also, 560MB is crazy for an OS, even if it can do loads of stuff even windows XP only takes up 350MB max on the pro version.

I think this is fake.

OS ram reserve is not final, and unrealistic, it's a fatal blow, it must be fixed, they aren't that stupid to not fix it.

Some of these things he listed seems plausible, but some seems completely bull. The Xbox 8s GPU better than the Wii Us? Then why is Epic complaining about the Xbox 8 and PS4s specs while only praising the Wii U? AND A 6GHZ DEV KIT?!?!?! I don't know of any computer out there that runs that much, or if it even needs it.

That's because they (epic) don't expect nintendo to be the hardware leader
That's because they (epic) expect the other two guys to get crazy on the hardware

And that's what we also have predicted and generally expected, no surprise here, all is okay, for the nintendo it is a big win.
As to surprise, it's the unknowlegable people that will be surprised, obviosuly, even shocked, because no ... the other two console guys won't have any significant hardware than a 600$ DIY PC. (i call it DIY because i know price ranges in custom PCs, i do not buy, reasearch, read nor care about crappy assembled PCs you buy in a market like bread, cookies and washingmachine, thus i don't know how to translate the price for such a PC, and im not going to look on shop sites either)

Perceptions Perceptions Perceptions ... learn about it, they don't tell everything they know in detail, they tell in bits by bits without head or tail, out of context, it's the consumers job to learn how to understand it.

The 6770, it's about 5x the power of the Xbox's GPU anyway.


It can actually, if it wasn't running Fraps at the same time. not on ultra though.

Haha ... double-fail for that guys argument, i didn't even notice, that's pretty sad.

Christ that burns my horsing eyes.

I think this makes it less-likely to be just a random wishlist.
The CEO of Gearbox said in that GameSpot interview that you will be able to move stuff from Upad to Screen if you feel like it.
He used the score list overlay as the example.

...And then I read the additions.
Fake/10
The "button under the d-pad" is a classic NFC sender/receiver.
Way to reach too far, silly attention-seeker fellow from the internet.

It's the translation that makes it sound like that - i should persume

And it doesn't look like it's a list that he would go into details, it's not written to be good looking, i think people are finding reason to accuse it as fake a bit too much.

I doubt this again because it doesn't seem "professional" to me. And also it is so easy to lie over the internet. I know this because I am a developer working for Ubisoft and I have all the information on the Wii U and Nintendo only made the Wii U powerful enough to play N64 games.

This kinds of things will never be professional, the developers them selfs are not sure, it's might be a sound guy, it might be a QA tester, there are various non-tech employees that work in companies and you WILL UNLIKELY get a leak from the CORE of the development team that's why it's not professional.


Perception Perception Perception ...

It's crap. It was a low-mid range card in 2010. It does support DX11 and it can run Crysis 2 on max at 1080p and 20fps.

Yeah this list seems too fake. You think Nintendo would charge $450 for the wii U after the 3DS failed at $250? Unless this thing is a quantum leap over the PS3/360, it doesn't deserve that pricepoint. The 6770 is a crappy video card and Nintendo has been getting their GPU customized since 2009. 560mb reserved for the OS is before optimizations and not final. No way that console will have a 4ghz CPU unless it is liquid cooled or has an airplane turbine fan as a cooler. Seems like a random dude seeking attention.

The sheer amount of bs in that post is staggering, sorry you are wrong, 6770 is 5 times more powerful than xenos.

you have trouble reading the article, 450 is the optimal price to make profit, but he did mentio the 3ds launch debacle

these are consoles here stop comparing it with the pc hardware



I am actually defending the info and analysis of all the stuff more than caring about the validity of the poster, source.

You seem to be defending this random guy to death...Purhaps your the one who actually wrote it and you just want everyone to believe you. A few things this individual said we already know as fact, some is like uhhh wtf? and the other stuff is just BS. Its fake get over it. At E3 it will be proven.

little of the info is "BS" or "wtf"

i still didnt explain everything ... acivements and cpu ... etc

The achivements argument is preety easy to explain:

not having achivements in first-party games and supporting global achivement system (for 3rd parties) are totally different things ... tsk tsk tsk

perception perception perception
asumption asumption asumption
you guys are too easy ... learn to understand context

The information in this article is nothing new nor surprising, except various details which are unconfirmable because of the nature of the post, however no hard evidence of being fake.

Multiple uPads were confirmed long ago http://www.youtube.c...N9MpbOoE#t=309s

I wrote about optimization... But that's what we got now. I'm not an idiot.

Can you please quote only the part you're replying to.

It's probably one of the better cards out there. My computers got the 6750, and I can run a ton of different games with no problems. Of course, 6770 isn't top of the line either, but an affordable card that will be good for the next couple of years at the least.

Honestly, I don't believe this. Why would a dev risk losing their job and alot of money, all to tell us this info?

It's the best case scenario for WiiU - it's won't be better than this. People still behave like PS3 and X720 are going to have much better hardware ... X720 probably not, but we don't know about PS4.

It's over 1TFLOPs just as said by the AMD insider ... it's 1.3 TFLOPs ... 5+ times more than X360 and 20% less than X720, the X360 has 240 GFLOPS or 0.24 TFLOPS

Sometimes I feel it's too good to be true ... the list really does look like it's a list pulled from all the web speculation.

In response to the bold part? A CPU that runs at 4GHz inside a small console box would melt away the console. A Nintendo console priced at $450 when they're most expensive home console ever was the Wii ($250)? Complete BS.

Those arguments are invalid.

I already explained about the price, read my posts.

I have yet to explain the only thing left, the CPU.

Again, pretty easy, GHZ alone doesn't mean anything, it's not comparable with PC hardware, and 6 GHZ has nothing special about it either, we don't know NOTHING about the chip yet only the possible family and what was based on. The age when GHZ meant something is over, the architecture, build quality, stability, features, cache, bandwidths and node process are more important than raw GHZ.

We have no details about the CPU, as long as the CPU is not overheating, as long as the CPU isn't drawing too much power they would like, it can be 6 of 4 GHZ, the number alone doesn't mean anything, and it doesn't prove anything either. One dev kit had 6GHz then they tried with that to test, but the final will be clocked down to 4GHZ to be cooled better ... that's all theories, we don't know, I am building around the information we know, i am not making stuff up, and these are the most accurate speculations, you need knowledge, and most people don't have to even participate in these debates, I wouldn't even be on this forum, if I could post on neogaf, and Im posting on beyond 3D as well where the actual tech community is.

Instead of focusing on the data and searching additional clues, I'm wasting time trying to explain basics to the noobs. Well .. this is the last post.

EDIT: The big point is ... you need to find other reasons to accuse it as fake.

I pretty much can see from the get go, but it's a question who made this list, because there simply is nothing too wrong with the raw info.

The overall scope of the info needs to be taken into account, the fact that he provides release date and price is suspicious, but I just wanted to get clear on the fact that it might not all be knowledge it might be developers OWN

The other thing is ... it's a pretty one in a million, it has to be some stupid employee to leak and tell this bunch of stuff out, especially with this kind of language, or he was trying to be as believeing as possible, no idea, he might have meant the equivalent GPU or what ... I don't really focus trying to find out if it's fake or not.

Still I pretty much don't care about the validity of the poster, I don't care about the release date, I don't care about the price, I am all about the tech, and if that's the data is not suspicious and is in-line with our and my findings and expectations then im going to defend it regardless of the origin of the source.

If it is fake then so be it, but that DOESN'T MAKE The tech info less valid.

Fake or Not: I never care about price or release date, the only people who most care about this are the non-techs, they care about these things and games, i never care about it, it's not important to know, great games will come no question about it, it's pretty clear from the get go, I know they shown only 10%, you need to think people, start using the brains, It was clear UE4 is coming to the WiiU, it is clear that many of the 3rd party games are coming to the WiiU, and personally i don't even care about 3rd parties, I won't play them on WiiU, I have nintendo for First-Parties, I have PC for everything else; tech-wise it's more important how much RAM the machine has, that's death or life, the next thing is the RANGE of the wireless controller, if you can have it around the house it's perfect, I don't want to be going 5 meters into the kitchen and lose signal, it's about the tech, I don't want the battery to be el-cheapo that runs out of juice in 3 hours, it's about the tech, I want USB3 support so it won't take EONS to transfer data and load games from external HDD (USB2 is too slow, depends on chip quality too, 35MB/s to 40MB/s = max while USB3 is 400-600MB/s, a typical (external) HDD achieves speeds 70-90 MB/s, better models of HDD such as my WD1002FAEX can sustain speeds at 126 MB/s); It's about the tech, I want analog 5.1 sound output possible via the WiiU Multi AV out connector, not just HDMI, because I have my own 5.1 sorround speaker set, using the HDMI i can only connect to the crappy HDTV speakers which are stereo. It's all about the tech, I want the WiiU zapper to be boundled with the games which use them or the system at launch. It's all about the tech, i want to have ethernet port on the console instead of using usb adapter. It's all about the tech, I want to be able to watch youtube without the web browser crashing and running out of memory, It's all about the tech, I want the touch screen to be up to standards so it's not delaying and unresponsive as in many tablets, I don't want the touch detection to be buggy and trouble registering the gestures. It's all about the tech, I want the console and games to support 16:10 aspect-ratio not just 16:9. It's all about the tech, I want the console to display relevant system info, such as the resolution games are operating at any given time. It's all about the tech, I want the controller's LCD to be able to be disabled completely, I want the LCD resolution to be adjustable for developers, they can dynamically adjust it what suits best in any given time in the gameplay so the controller won't draw resources when it's not needed, so when you are reading something you can max out the LCD resolution because there is little activity on the main HDTV screen, but when you're in action you're looking at the maint HDTV, you don't need the LCD screen on the controller to display max quality resolution, or disable it temporairly(black screen with some info or some message displaying "stanby" or something... it's up to the developer, possibilities would be endless)

Hi guys and hope all is well! Right now ive posted on here and read lots n lots of posts about the specs and capabilities of the wii u and i find it all facinating. But i have a small problem .... i havent got a clue what any of it means! So as u all seem to know heres my questions....
1. If the 360 n ps3 are lets say 1/10 in power etc what wud u say wii u was?
2. A bit of different question now, i tried to imagine my ipad wass a wii u tablet while i was playing project gotham on my xbox and when i looked down at it (pretending i was looking at a map or whatever ) i crashed or messed up a bit, is it really possible to look away from the main playing area to utalise this new controller? Especially in an online shooter, if u look away for a second ur dead!
Please help me make my final descion x

1. WiiU will be about 4 times better than X360 in terms of graphics when peaked out, we do not know if the memory and CPU will be up to those multipliers but it will be good.
2. Many developers think they would use the new controller for FPS, no, the best play experience for a FPS is the WiiU Zapper method, a gaming revolution, the age of playing FPS with the stupid analogs is over, for me it was over 6 years ago, but this time this has finally the ability to reach global recognition, I do not know how many 3rd-party developers are going to commit to it, because most of them are pretty ignorant still, but for nintendo first-parties, this method(another picture) is already 99% confirmed, I can't wait.

What more do you need to know?

1. I don't understand. Are you asking for specs if Wii U is 10 times more powerful? or are you asking if it was 10 times more powerful, would it be next gen?

2. Tactics come into play.
You don't reload out in the middle of nowhere, you run to a secluded area to reload, the same can be said for checking your map.
Also, you could hold the controller up to your face if you wanted.

To a newbie to answer his question you need to answer it as you though what he probably thought in the tech manner, you don't need to try to answer it literally.

The general public goes with those simple 1st-grade class question and answers, atleast about tech. I answer questions how I would answer any such question, my way, the question doesn't have to be answered literally.

It is not possible to describe the system power with one number, especially with this lack of information, that's why I have notified that one number is only valid for the graphics, we do not know for the rest.


2. Is obsolete, at least for me, I won't be playing FPS with analogs, so I will go simply around any such problems Trying to explain how to play a fast paced gameplay or usual western FPS game with this controller and looking on the screen while not trying to die, is conflicting, i don't even what to think about it, it's out of logic, the games and gameplay will have to be designed around the controller, carmack agrees. Link 1 - Link 2

We don't want another PS360 scenario, that the society will be fed some software which wasn't designed for the input systems. It will be sad to see these american 3rd parties pushing FPS games onto the analog sticks, I hope they notice the WiiU zapper sooner.

Uh just saw it http://www.neoseeker...rs-more-horror/

Your English needs work.

The OP isn't a "newbie" either, he has a good few posts.
2. wasn't talking to you. :'(

The number of posts never matters. The questions appear to be like from an avreage gamer who has no idea about tech but I am glad he is interested in knowing. The american slang doesn't help either.

My english is such as it is, it's not my mother's language therefore I don't have any obligation to make it better, i do not purposelly use slang and shortcuts, i do my best.

If there are more questions we gladly would like to answer them, and helping new players to get into the community, but you have to learn and do something your self, this is no babysitting, since my personal opinion on the 3rd-party support is mixed, I do not want the invasion of modern-warfail PS360 demographic to invade the nintendo community, their philosophy is not welcome here, they will need to learn the ways of this community, at least i hope so.

I don't like the splitting of the core community and arguments in the core, the disagreements as in this case have been interesting but not damaging, thought not helping either, I do not want this to continue so I am adressing them even though it was not targeted at me, my goal is to provide the best possible answer to a newcomer, but the contradicting answers from others in the core community can only confuse the newcomer more than help, but I am saddned that not a lot of people recognize the power and importance of the WiiU Zapper. In other words, I want to correct you that, if the WiiU Zapper method catches ground, there might be no need to worry about these issues, this is important to point out, the newcomer would get a better idea and a hope that he would not need to worry about this issue which boosts his confidence in buying the device. The issue I am talking about is question number 2., there is no best explanation what to do in that situation, it's up to the game design, but the whole issue might be obsolete sooner or later.

There is another aspect of these community conection, this is a forum, you should not take anything too personally. My thinking is not compatible with how corporate business works, there is no such thing as a BOSS without first being a worker, the best example for this case is Nintendo, Satoru Iwata, the CEO of Nintendo had the proper path of promotion in the company, he has not been assigned to be a CEO without working in the industry and in the company from the beginning, a rarity in today's business structure and certainly the only such company in the console business today.

Nintendo has strong views on how we should run our company. We consider ourselves, above all else, as a gaming company. We believe other companies (in the console marketplace) see themselves primarily as technology companies.
- Satoru Iwata

That's why I continue to be a fan of nintnedo, I am glad my parents bought me N64 which I remember the moment in the store pointing finger and not wanting to go away from that, I was 6 years old, I have no idea tho this day what was in me that I was wanting that because my memory is too deep to remember correctly, I may not have been the same guy without that key event in history. The fact holds true, what you experience in the beginning leads you into the future, age doesn't matter, i've seen a lot of 40+ people who look like 14 old on the web, not a lot of people change, I have changed my lifestyle, but I keept all the good from the old one.

Lol i love that last statement im a nintendo boy through n through, i have a 360 to play other games but im certainly not a cod fan boy, also just because i dont know what chips or what processer is what doesnt mean im not a true gamer! I bet u watch tv but u dont know whats inside! Yes id like to know more but i kinda trust nintendo to do all that tech stuff for me so i dont have to worry.

That's more like it. Explaining your situation always works, with me, you can know I won't have a bad response.

My personal opinion is not forced upon anyone, I just share it alongside because I have been challenged/questioned. You need to take into the account that i have stated "looks like it" - that is just a speculative comparrison - so no, I have not made any 100% accusations of you being a COD fanboy, neither i was going to post that side in the first place, but I had to.

I haven't had it in the plan originally, but It turned out good, you have passed the test, you are not a COD fanboy, if you were, you would have responded violently instead you found amusement in it, which I salute. The comment on the invading demographies (eg. PS360 people shifting to WiiU) is simply my opinion and has nothing to do with you since I cannot have known anything about you.

My opinion stands because I do not want nintnedo to start making modern-warfares because there might be so many people crying about it when they come to WiiU ... nintnedo is strong and i have faight they will not cater into these bad trends, those are my biggest fears that the console might be infested with crazy kids who scream on VOIP for every other headshot - but i know i won't be much playing MP to listen to those. My fears are that those demographies will damage the strong nintendo community and weaken it, you don't want a community that is split into sectors, that confuses the company, okay, it's already split into hardcore and casual, but we can coexist peacefully, I do not think PS360 demographic will be able to coexist peacefully with the established nintnedo community. The invading demographic might blame nintnedo just because of their past experience for something nintnedo is not guilty or responsible about, this is not the first time this happened.




For other users it is important to understand my writting, and how I form posts, I change it fast, part of the statements are fact, parts of it are subjective opinions, I do not have to be responsible if they're understood the wrong way, but I am gladly provide further explanation and clear any misunderstanding for anyone that asks without negative or rude manner on his part. As a conclusion the down is my COD experience, do not take it as a part of this core post, it's just what I write alongside, it could be posted separately, it is subjective opinion. I just talk a lot and combine stuff when I form my posts, I make line breaks to notify this, sometimes where it's more important i make several empty lines to notify something completely different in the discussion.

Speaking of COD - I was a heavy cod player in the early days, COD1 , COD2 and COD4. Though, what I mean with COD, is the new milking modern-warfare stuff, I do not bash the whole franchise, but this recent years have been all about cashing in on the popularity of gameplay that has disappeared from the competitive radar, I do not have the problem with it as in it-self, I have a problem with it because it is affecting every other developer out there and it's making the whole industry to go into that trend, only a few companies have stood true to their creative grounds, and that is, nintendo, relic, blizzard, and petroglyph ...etc there might be more viable companies that I cannot recall right now at this moment.

If you believe IGN's specs they rumoured last year, 1-2 times more powerful.

If you believe more recent rumours, ie. power-7, 2GB ram, 2 upad's, bump in spec to accommodate UE4, 3-4 times more powerful.

Swetx, stop being so confrontational with people who "don't know as much as you". You'll scare them away with your bear-like attitude. :'(

See ... he wasn't scared, actually quite on the contrary, it turned out better than I expected.


And if we are speaking of specs rumors ... IGN was the first one to mention 5 times. By saying "In real terms, the Xbox 720's raw graphics processing power is expected to be six times that of the Xbox 360 and will yield 20-percent greater performance than Nintendo's forthcoming console, the Wii U."
I don't blame you on this one, it's quite hard to know every single bit that's out there.

No idea what IGN knows or not, they might have pulled this from the RV770 rumor that was about WiiU and written is as fact. IGNorants, but sometimes they're right just because they're major media and can get early access to stuff.

its the eigth console generation

Not for microsoft. It will be their third. And they as a company never had anything to do with it at the beginning , I do not want this company to be associated with it, like calling it 8 because it's 8 console generation.

They can call it 8 as their Windows generation ...

Hi stewox thanks mate and thanks for understanding and ur last quote. Believe it or not ive been a gamer for nearly 20 years. My first computer was an atari xe ( before st ) and if i wanted a new game my dad would by me books on how to programme in basic so i had to make my own, so as soon as i got a job i saved up for a console ( a snes ) so i kinda stopped needing to know about specs etc and just concentrated on games. Ive kept up to date with gaming jernalism but being a nintendo gamer i never really got into learning about graphics engines and processers because it wasnt important. But now its become more relavant and although im a bit lost im still interested in whats happening, u just gotta be gentle with me and drip feed me info on tech specs lol.

Understandable, the only issue I have, which I didn't mentioned, is the heavy use of those shortcuts, are you in a hurry or it's that normal, I am asking you seriously no joke.

And he says my english is bad? Can you identify which part and where exactly. Sometimes I make shortcuts only when I type from a mobile device which is rare, and If i don't have enough time, but I don't do full walls of texts like that.

Only time I saw a problem with your grammar is when you said "we dont know nothing"
Which Is a double negative implying that we know everything

Whooooops. Yes, but I don't keep making these always, that was a mistake, surely i've came across them many times and I've fixed them. The nature of my language is a bit different, especially the word formation and things get mixed in my mind.

I have no problem with looking down at the screen since I use my peripheral vision (I practiced a lot with Burnout Paradise), but I will be like Stewox and use the Wii U Zapper on every shooter I get for the Wii U.

Come on, we both know that nintendo said it about FPS, they commit to something, once this catches their internal staff there's no going back; I don't think they will support multiple control styles if one control style is completely handicapped while the other is godlike but they've did this in mario cart but there wasn't that much of a difference as in this case.

It's all here incase somebody thinks I'm making this up: http://purenintendo....t-wii-u-zapper/

My biggest problem is that nobody horsing snapshoted the tweets and other info, are people so much incapable. because twitter cache doesn't work anymore even with the google trick.

EDIT:

A found it now finally, was't finding it all the time no idea how it came up just now.




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Take a look at this ... continuing form the above post, it'll take some time for the pic to load.
I forgot to take a pic of the linking why .... MATTYB00SH said in his twitter description "other half @Vee_Gee76 o/"

76 is probably birthdate of 1976 ...

That's where i got the lead and i'm inserting this pic before the megapic. (this is an update to this post)







now here's the big pic i made just earlier (forgetting to add where i get the connection): (don't worry post is fixed now if you didn't see it earlier ... move on down)

Somebody should post this on neogaf ... I am still not activated. This was really funny, i laughed 10 minutes straight at my desk here, and needed a break.

I've made a consolidated picture now here all in 1 below, so you don't have to bother with linking.

LINK: http://www.mediafire...s4z41djp8i08beg
there is a problem with imgur uploadnig large pics, so hopefully my local shrani.si works for everyone foreign, foreginers cannot upload but they should see, if you can't see, tell me, because it's probably an error.


I honestly didn't knew about his name that's because almost nobody reported his name except gamebrit and some italian wiiu site.

What is that link, before I download it?

It's the picture, one single jpg file, i didn't found an imagehost that worked, all of them had limitations and the ones who said no-limit also crashed, i tested like 3 or 4 ...


My personal mediafire account, mediafire is fine, and it's great. I've got many stuff on megaupload but thankfully nothing too important and OLD too so, for those that misses megaupload can use BAYFILES, it's similar and doesn't require register.

Aha and i forgot achievements didn't i ... maybe don't know.


There's a difference betweent "not having first-party achievements" "not supporting achivements"

That was nintendo talking about their first-party games, not about the console's support, it's pretty clear. And COME ON GUYS, the console doesn't even have to support "achivementz" ... it can all be in the game and game's profile, this is so silly how when people who have no technical knowlege speak about this things, the only thing the console does is makes those achivements appear in a global list of your gamertag or something ... a few lines of code, it's pretty trivial, it's not rocket science.

Personally i never cared about achivements, i want old-style hints, secret areas and easter eggs.