Iwata actually went out of his way to clarify that NX is seperate and apart from the software development and account integration. It's a hardware dedicated gaming system. It will utilize the unification methods, but it's not a name for that methodology. It's the codename for nintendos next dedicated game system hardware.

It's not going to replace Wii U. It's a third pillar. So no.

No. It's going to replace the Wi U.

Maybe. Lol

Or the 3ds.

They will coexist for a short time.

Perhaps this one full be a modular console that has game pad functionality and seperate, lesser powered handheld capability.

All speculation now. But being that it is meant to diverge from the Wii U while still being able to absorb the architecture, it's likely that is the main hardware they are looking to leapfrog.

It's the next generation dedicated system.







VR is just not s good concept. Never cared for it. Never will.

Too many are pushing it though. So it's bound to be a "thing" however short lived.

Separately, Augmented Reality is very cool. But there are only so many uses for that. But at least it's a legit helpful thing.

Having a screen of any resolution that close to your eyes is very bad. Just say no to VR. Your health will thank you later.

At least it will keep optometrists in business. Lol



On s side note, it's wise for nintendo to utilize the smart device industry. I guess they just needed to reassure themselves they weren't just latching onto an established fad.

NX. Nintendo CROSSover.

Combining multple mediums.

This thing better bring the horsepower.

It's on thing to combine mediums. It's another thing to do it well.

I've always said the Wii U was a 5 year sysem. And its actually shrewd of them. PS4 is supposed to be a 10 year system.

If Nintendo brings ou the biig guns on the new system, then they will be perceived as the "cool" "hot new tech" and rightly so.

VR is a must. as an add-on. I dont care for it. At all. But its got the hype. And Nintendo was first to bring it home. But they didn't bring the power. So you had red lines. whoop de doo.

I think this will be special.

Don't care for MM.

But as an ADDED side element to another Zelda game, I'm all for it.

I imagine it may work out like the timed side quests in WW.

Bayo 3?

Meh. Mobile game at best

Man they are really knocking this thing out of the park.

When they spend this amount of detail on bringing such high quality results to choices that players MIGHT make...

I just...

Wow.

This is the kind of game you make when you are looking at guaranteed sales in a much hyped platform with massive install base.

And here it is on the most criticized, small install base Wii U.

I'm actually really liking the exclusive feel of it. Like a Lamborghini oenergy.

But something tells me this is a system seller.

Even those media outlets that don't WANT to hype the game can't help themselves.

Especially in Japan. This is a Japanese dream.

And it has everything "western" and euro gamers go for as well.

Just wish it was out in the USA like right NOW.

Xenoblade got nards!

That's disgusting














lol

Destiny including both expansions.

BUT I hope not at this point.

The game has sold so much it would not sell well now as it is played out on other systems.

Give a publisher an inch and they will try to take a mile. I think what I described is Nintendo not living in the past. People are still like Nintendo needs new ips but will overlook games like XCX and splatoon. The reality is people want Nintendo to be just like Sony and Microsoft. I took a lot of hate on this site from people because I said I wanted Nintendo to get GTAV. That wasnt because I was a big GTA fan. The reality is GTA is the biggest if not one of the biggest third party titles out there. It usually sell upward to twenty million copies per installment. I thought a well done GTA on Wii U launched beside the others could sell a million. Now the devide between Nintendo and third parties is too big. I am not sure what they have to do to ever be on top again but giving quality titles and partnering with studios for games like bayonetta and devils third can not be looked at as living in the past. Remember they is also the rumor from the guy that pretty much told us devils third was coming that they have three more partnerships like that in the works that havent been announced yet. Nintendo will IMO do a lot better next generation but some things like third parties will never be on the same level as sony or microsoft.

The reality is this: people like Nintendo games. But they also really like a lot of the third party offerings. Even the much maligned AAA titles. People are buying them because that's what they want. So make a machine that attracts the developers of those types of games. And in so doing, automatically giving Nintendo a better platform for their own games. No one is saying be the same as Sony and microsoft. But we are saying the policy of not even trying to compete is stupid. Not on,y can nintendo compete, they can win. They are the only gaming centric co panty between the three and are u i query positioned to ensure the success of their console standalone. It that success is limited when they go it alone. They need a steady flow of high quality 1st and 2nd party games as well as all of the third party offerings. In short, the one place anyone ever needs to go is Nintendo. Nintendo console at least as powerful as the competition, the stellar Nointendo game lineup, AAAAND the definitive versions of third party titles.

And stop,with the childish menu designs and sounds. The n64 wasn't like that. The gamecube wasn't like that. The SNES wasn't like that. Even the wii was actually cool looking for its time. The menus were Apple Mac inspired and looked very modern then.

But now, the UI is even less focused and borrows some of the same old design. But mixed with ther outdated elements that don't mesh well along with system sounds that can best be described as captain toad farting skittles out of his butt while jumping down a warp pipe.

That's great in a mario GAME or such. But not the entire ui.

Make it more neutral, allowing your experience to be defined by what games you Re playing and what apps you use. Nothing is more jarring than playing mass effect, arkham, or splinter cell, then jumping to the menu to watch a gritty movie on Netflix only to be greeted by happy skittle farts in between. In shorts, it's Annoying. No one wants to watch Giardians of the Galaxy on a Leapster right? So don't make the console sound like one. Something that could be at home on a child's room , a college dorm, as well as showing off your latest YouTube video to your upscale freinds at an oscars after party. And can be proud about it.

And when it comes to games,having the best audio visual experience never hurt anyone. In fact, this lone aspect is selling consoles for Sony quite well these days. Not saying Nintendo should be Sony. Quite the contrary. But the market is different than it was in the wii days and that won't change for quite some time.

Wow. Looks truly great. Thanks for posting.

And looks like capcom is having fun again.

I'll wait a year. If they game is comets and they don't insult my purchase by creating more versions, I'll buy.

Otherwise...


Still feeling the burn from mvc3. Then not even 6 months goes by and mvc3 "ultimate" comes out with no upgrade path.

That crap should be illegal. Until that day, I'll fight tactics like that with my dollars (or lack thereof).

Yeah that will never happen. The publishers would ask for an insane amount of money and Nintendo would tell them to go screw themselves. Iwata has said they wont play the exclusive timed exclusives game with 3rd parties. So I agree more games like bayo, devils third, W101. Buy some smaller studios that they can grow with. They need to focus on offering the best gaming platform they can afford while making a profit. In terms of hardware make it as powerful as they can within a reasonable budget. Im ok with an upgraded gamepad setup.

With respect, your solution is already in motion with Wii U. And it's not helping.

That's the kind of defeatist mentality that agrees to die quietly. Nintendo needs CHANGE. But not for the sake of change. They need to reinvent. Rethink. Nintendo is a company ran by proud Japanese men. The problem with pride... Is it always goes before a fall. And it's been a downward spiral since 2009. That's a long time. Time to get bold and stop thinking about plugging holes in the cargo ship. Instead, build a destroyer to go out, take the cargo and put holes in the other guys' ships.

People said "that'll never happen" when Steve Jobs came back to rebuild a broke, sinking Apple.

Today? The largest company in the entire world, worth TWICE what the next largest company is.

It all started when a. Humble steve jobs approached he computing leader microsoft to invest in Apple and partner with MS Office back on Mac. Microsoft investing in Apple? "That will never happen..."

Now Apple could buy microsoft a couple of times over.

Because one solitary leader dared the people around him to boldly attempt great things.

It CAN happen for Nintendo.

But not if they live in the past or just do what the old codgers in charge now deem "safe."

i think the major 3rd parties are done on Wii U. I mean i just do not see it. It has to be exclusives though. They cant give us what they give the other two becuase we know it will not get the same attention. Look at sales on Zombi U on Wii U compared to the 2 assassin creed games... It has outsold both together. Nintendo needs EXCLUSIVES!

Right.

ON THE WII U.

That's why they have to build a next system that can't be ignored.

And makes the deals for timed exclusives with the big boy franchises.

Go big or go home.

You want Madden? COD? DESTINY 2? Final fantasy? Only on Nintendo. For a year or so.

Crazy? Maybe. Ambitiously reaching for greatness and firmly grasping it? You bet.

And what's better, if Nintendo actually builds the console that out powers the next gen efforts of the other guys, they've got it in the bag as their will literally be no reason to have an Xbox or playstation at that point.

I can pretty much guarantee the Wii name will not be used in a home console again.
Nintendo needs to pull out the stops next system. Build the power system. Bring back the "now your playing with power" campaign and simply call it the "nintendo Entertainment System" NES with a modern sleek UI without Mickey mouse audio cues.

The name will signify what it originally meant to do. Provide entertainment. Nowadays that includes all the apps that provide movies music Etc. in addition to the core game features. That's what NES means.

They don't have to name it NES. but something that captures that. Although it does provide the right type of nostalgia.

Anything with Wii in it just means...old and underpowered.

Build a system that's at least as powerful as the competition. Perhaps include some secret features (ie: SNES ) that can be activated s year later or so to gain the element of surprise on the competition and put a grin on console owners from ear to ear.

Market the thing as the ultimate system BEVAUSE THAYS FREAKIBG WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

Put on an E3 that starts off showing how bad Nintendo was in the past just like they did when announcing the Wii. That was the best e3 intro ever.

BUT...

Don't go the second half. You know, where they began to downplay specs Because the system was pathetically underpowered.

Instead BUILD on the intro by showing never before seen graphics in actual games with a dash of outrageous tech demo in between. Give them hype and reality. Build excitement.

Then... LAUNCH with three must have titles covering three popular genres.

Better yet, make 2 of those timed exclusives from the most popular third party exclusives.

Just saw 40 minutes of ffxv. Um... Xenoblade poops all over it.

Kinda shocked actually. The character designs are slightly more detailed in FF. but the monsters and the characters are very uninteresting. But the XBX world design looks more detailed than FF.

And the FF environment pretty much sucks. It's not even up to Skyrim standards with exception of textures. And the hills, etc are designed so you can't see too far. It looks like a total of four tree models used in obvious repetition, sparse rocks and vegetation, a lot of plain terrain. And the movement of th characters is pretty wonky.

Combat Looks kinda glitchy at this stage as well.

So weird to have this game on wii u looking that much better than the ps4 game (even though the game appears to borrow heavily from xenoblade) And so cool.

Ffxv just seems so "blah" whereas XBX looks epic and compelling.

Whether it sells huge numbers or not, congrats to the monolith soft team.

Wow.

Nintendo once knew how to offer serious power at an affordable price.

Might be necessary to dedicate hardcore hardware guys to the console so the software guys can keep focus on producing 100% quality, fulfilling games.

Iwata and Miyamoto should not dictate hardware specs. They can add to needed hardware features, but not u specs such as hardware limiting factors.

Even if nintendo themselves don't use 100% of the power in order to keep DEV costs low, at least it's there for the companies with business models that allow them to pour on the dev resources.

To have not only nintendo titles, but also the definitive third party versions of those games on the same console... It would be quite the coup.

But it makes too much sense. So they won't do it.

But they should.

It's a new market. And specs (and thus ultimate potential for games) play a major role.

Honestly I think one of the primary focuses has to be the price point, followed by the gimmick that makes it approachable to non-gamers. The Wii was successful as everyone considered it to be a secondary console and so bought one alongside their PS3 or Xbox 360.

Nintendo consoles are still the only consoles where you can play Nintendo games, so Nintendo needs to heavily market their back catalog of games going back to the NES.

Interesting.

But the market changes constantly.

It's no longer an era favorable to the Wii strategy.

Example: how are price point and gimmick hping the Wii U in any way?

This is an age where children as well as adults have $600 cell phones and $500 tablets. Expendable devices.

Also of interest in terms of direct correlation to the impact on games consoles:

The biggest seller by far in this console race? Playstation.

And it didn't need to be the least expensive, nor did it rely on gimmicks. A simple traditional controller.

Does it offer gimmicks? Yes. And that just makes it feel like a value add for those who want it.

But the core system. The only one you can buy actually, is just as traditional as you can get.

The standout feature? Lots of power compared to its competitors.

The Wii era lasted a decade. It's done. That strategy will not work again for another 20 years or so.

You can't leave specs out anymore. They matter and even 2 year olds get it.

From now on people will always be more educated on what makes a foundation for a great system with potential. If they see that potential doesn't reasonably exist, they won't bother.

Take the Wii u. A capable machine. Not outstanding, but good. Then look at x. And see how much careful crafting can impact the performance of a good foundation.

Now imagine X or Zelda on a wii u that matches the ps4 in power. That would be so compelling it would be ridiculous.

And that's what the majority would sink their dollars and time into.

Don't know. Trailers all been 60FPS. However in RPG's like this doesn't matter as much.

Have to be honest. The trailers look way too smooth for that kind of detail in s game.

I'm expecting 30fps which itself will be great. If somehow 60 then they will literally have outdone themselves manifold times.

said some true things there but you know U done F up right... HA! serious question will Nintendo games support third parties? I mean I see some games returning maybe sports games but no matter the power they don't see enough sales on Nintendo hardware to make games for it.

They will if the nintendo system is the definitive console (ie: the one that the game I'm making will perform best on and attract the most gamers). I remember the n64 days. And before the release, it was being called ultra 64. And had arcade games based off of it that looked INSANE at the time. Everyone was waiting for this thing and Nintendo was poised to put playstation back in its place. Then... Cartridges. The entire world thought what the crap is this? And just that fast, nintendo lost a lot of third party support. Notably square soft, which was unable to fit a graphically ambitious (well...fmv heavy) game onto a cartridge or even multiple cartridges as Nintendos cartridge cost was way too high compared to CD AND THE STORAGE SPACE WAS A JOKE. here was this superior hardware gimped by crappy cartridges.

The thing currently is if you had a cod, tomb raider, madden, etc, it's simply going to look noticeably better on ps4.

So of course most people want to play the ps4 version. And playing COD on a sleek black console with a cool looking controller and neat colored lights with a sleek UI is a whole lot better experience for most people than pressing the power button on a purple lunch box... With a handle... In today's console landscape, the X11 and ps4 play it smart with their UI. BOTH LOOK SMART, NEUTRAL, COOL, AND SLEEK.. modern. Meanwhile, the wii u interface looks cobbled together for 4 year olds. And the system sounds...no.

Switch it up with a nintendo console that outpowers Sony, doesn't look or sound like a skittle threw up, has robust online and tools devs can easily make use of, and you have the makings of a third party love affair.

Nintendo CAN do it. And I think their stated mission to get hardcore gamers back with wii u has been sincere. But they've learned some hard lessons here. Can't wait to see those lessons applied to the next system.

Until then, I'll be quite content with X, Zelda, and hopefully a Metroid. But I have a feeling X is going to sap a looong time out of my life. Lol.

Yeah, Nintendo tried that with the GameCube. Fancy hardware wont fix the stigma set by Sega's marketing. But outlasting the competition will. Xbox will be around for a while (but will be more of a Windows HTPC then the Xbox we know), but I don't know about Playstation. Their cellphone division is looking for a buyer, and their computers are hit or miss in popularity. I'm sure they will still be around, but I don't know.

But one thing's for sure, Nintendo is entrenched. It's userbase recognizes them for quality and they have major financial reserves. If a recession financial recalibration happens (which may or may not happen, consider politics that use brinkmanship is a key barganing tool and a mess of control) the major third party publishers will take a lethal hit (no one is going to buy EA's games in quantities vast enough to maintain their brainwashing advertisements), leaving Nintendo as the console with the most and best games.



Makes about as much sense as Nintendo risking their long-term exsistance by joining Microsoft and Sony's race to one-up the other.

Lol.

Blaming the GameCube selling so few units on awesome hardware is ridiculous.

It was purple, looked like s kids lunchbox, had a stupid name, and didn't play DVDs (actually quite the big deal at the time) when both its competitors did.

In short, it looked, sounded, and performed like s child's toy. M
Did it have superior hardware? Yes. But no one cares when it looked and sounded like a Leapster on steroids.

The original NES was marketed above what it was and the gimmicks were actually quite clever. The idea of a family computer for games was great. And the Super NES built upon that premise outpouring the Genesis and holding hardware secrets that Nintendo didn't unlock until they felt they needed something extra.

The n64 was heavily anticipated and was poised to destroy play station... Until Nintendo chose to use archaic and limited cartridges instead of cheap CDs with much more capacity. This reason alone is why ff7 did not come to the n64.

Boneheaded decisions like those are what scared third parties away to the point where the wii was nearly all Nintendo.

Nintendo does need to play the big boy power game and cobtinue the trend they've restarted with wii u by upping their social, app ecosystem, and tech game.

Both ps4 and d- play blu Ray also. But it doesn't hurt so much in this digital download age as it did when the GCN couldn't play dvd and you couldn't listen to CDs on your n64.

Two things that Nintendo basically GAVE AWAY TO THEIR COMPETITORS:

1) system power (though the wii u is no slouch). The Wii just didn't even try. At all. The Wii u is a very capable, very well designed system. But Nintendo wasn't out to impress anyone. Yet the cold harsh reality is that we live in an era where people really do need to be impressed if you're going to sell to them (flappy bird game notwithstanding).

2) online. The Xbox 360 had really done a good job here, playstation at least tried, and the Wii just forfeit. The Wii u showcases the beginning of an online foundation. Complete with major growing pains (party chat and freind finding/making systems,I'm looking at you).

So if Nintendo continues their laser focus when it comes to complete, high quality, compelling games, but actually offers truly impressive hardware, with a cool system name (come on now. Wii? Wii U? Game cube? What the creaking heck) and killer online, that does what everyone wants a multitasking system to do, Nintendo actually has a shot at shutting down ms and sonys next systems.

Not only will we have amazing looking Nintendo games, but third party hits as well. And heck, if Nintendo wanted to get ballsy and secure a major third party IP or two or three for its console, then we are talking big big things in the future.

But all that means jack squat if the system isn't genuinely impressively spec'd.

And msking s truly powerful system won't risk their long term existence, it will ensure it.

The more they pii away money on underpowered systems and silly gimmicks that sound cool at the office, but result in catastrophic losses, the closer they get to having to do something else.

With a master plan that starts out with incredible hardware, then incredible software that runs on it, and wooing back third parties, striking deals for IP exclusivity on hit games, solidifying the online systems, and marketing the thing aggressively because they CAN, knowing the system backs up the marketing, they can very much usher in a new SNES era.

But the foundation of the entire thing is the hardware. Get it right and the options are limitless. Get it wrong and no one wants to play COD On your console when it looks twice as good on the other guys'

I doubt it this just seems like nintendo take the game as it is.

The way they're really going to great lengths to impress their customers lately with dlc and fan service, you never know.

Jebus, the anti Xenobade trolls are at it again.

Every single article, they flood it with 'Its not doing anything Skyrim didnt do! Red dead redemption looks Way better!!!'
'It looks worse than last gen, it just has massive scale, thats all its got going for it over ps360!'

You cant discuss this game ANYWHERE outside without them showing up and crapping everywhere and circle jerking each other. How do they even believe their own garbage?

Good points.

But honestly, I feel Nintendo can eliminate a ton of this crap by simply marketing their games effectively. putting out high quality screenshots and videos all over the web (YouTube, create and send to ign etc...).

With X especially, unless you already own a wii u it was nigh impossible to see a good look at the footage.

If you see the YouTube videos, the "screenshots" all over the web, etc., they all look incredibly muddy, washed out, etc.

Then... You see the "direct" that moment Monolith put out and it's like "what the ohmygoshijustvomitedthewheatiesiateforbreakfastbevausethislookssofreakingamazing!"

It looks nearly like a different game because the difference between conpressed, decompressed, and decompressed again by the time it shows up anywhere. Then that crappy conpressed video gets a screen grab taken and compressed again into an even more crappy conpressed JPEG.

It actually makes me a little angry as this would be so freaking easy to fix by sending press kits with high quality screens and videos to the major players. And it would cost nearly nothing.

And the stinking media sites KNOW THIS. and they choose to use junk screens of junk videos.

When I show people the latest gameplay and tutorial video they unanimously freak out and have to have it.

Before then, they've heard of it a bit and weren't impressed.

It's all in the presentation.

Come on Nintendo.

Yes, we appreciate that you are focused on the GAME, not on swindling people out of their hard earned money.

But dadburnit, get with the program and have one or two people focus on marketing it right and leaving the industry with a proper high impression of the game.

Hope you can change guys junk size.
If I am making a character based on me, it needs to be below default. HAHAHAhaha..ha..*cries*

Keyboard Tourette's?

I still can't believe we are getting both of these games... In one year no less.

I'll literally not have time for anything else.
Never thought I'd say this but... My X1 and PS4 will be gathering dust at that time.

But you gotta love "nex gen" eyeballs yo!

I mean you can't enjoy a good RPG without more veins in eyeballs. Lol it makes me laugh how this garbage suckers people in so easily.

Ooooo...

Ugly textures, light maps, two layers of polygons and a simple inversion in the middle...

That's next ten high tech? Lol

About as awesome as hand hairs in COD Ghosts....

The funny thing is X has more AAA qualities than AAA labeled games.

I don't see where they've cut any shortcuts. It looks epic, expensive, extensively crafted, extravagantly detailed, and I can't even begin to imagine how much money and manpower has gone into creating this masterpiece.

The single most desired game in my gaming life. Maybe be that changes after I get it (doubtful), but that's how I've felt for a while. And seeing the latest updates just really makes me sick with anticipation.

Now imagine a deluge of CGI, alive action, and some mixed media commercials plastered all over your favorite negworks,breeding or COD style.. And for an honest to goodness AAA game!

I'd think sales triple. Due to awareness alone.