x86 based console. now i wonder why would I buy this thing, if it's basically the same as a PC?

just read that... it makes me believe that namco is having difficulties due to different architecture rather than low clock speeds, even more...

commander and soldier type game could nice.. commander plays on the wii u gamepad, soldier plays in the pro or nunchuck + wiimote... commander has control over reinforcement, airstrikes, overview maps... the soldier is on the ground, maybe with a command of a squad, plays on FPS view... commander view may sometimes be limited due to some factors, maybe a jammer.. so its up to the soldier to pinpoint where to send in airstrikes and what not...

damn, the possibilities...

Source?

http://e3.nintendo.com/wiiu/

scroll to the bottom, to the right.. "IBM PowerⓇ-based multi-core processor"


I think what ppl misunderstood here is, the guy is talking about the number of processor NOT the number of core in a processor...

what difference in performance could a multiple processor and multiple core processor can make, say 2 single core processor vs 1 dual core processor, is beyond me..

just what I thought... a ported already launched game couldn't possibly that much visually advanced.. there will be slight close up difference, but generally the same... unless they recode and optimize the whole thing...

nway, didn't they say the spec is subject to change? supposedly the newer dev kits could have better specs...

I have no idea what all this means.

haha

Does anybody else feel that like the mario games are gonna always look the same? if you make it more HD and more realistic with better graphics, Like take Battle field 3 enviroment and stick Mario in it i dont think itd work too well i like how mario games look now like mario galaxy 2 looks perfect to me, all this talk about graphical improvement, does that mean its gonna change how he looks?

epic mario would be awesome.. lol

Supreme commander o_O

a physical keyboard... which could be pretty nice

my take is you have problem with the game itself, not the Wii U. because of the game alone, it ruined your experience. Furthermore, there really isn't anything on the Wii U experience so far that really is outstanding, except for ZombiU. And you missed that.

I'm hoping everything will change this september.

I dont know.. it seems to me namco had a bit of problem direct porting games to wii u, processor wise...

Then they're going to hate an 8-core processor running at 2Ghz for the Xbox 8, and Sony's 4 core APU running at 3.2hz

didn't the xbox 8 is rumored to have the similar IBM's processor? or is it the same as what you are saying? =_= I didn't pay attention to specs that much.. If so yeah, they will hate it

hahaha.. I'm used the swapping on the ps3, because we have access to both american and asian version of ps3 games. i don't know what's the big deal about it

a wii..

i've had most of the experience of 360 on ps3.. only different games, same experience... would like to try something else.. like motion control..

jsut to appease the so called pro gamer that's all

it's fascinating that people can talk about comfortable without even holding it...

Specs sell consoles, 99% of the 360/PS3 playing crowd gamers don't actually know or tell the difference but if their console has a higher number than the other, it's "obviously" better.

Nintendo have made a very fine tuned machine, that is designed to play HD games at pinpoint accuracy and on two screens. Developers given time will use these tunings to their advantage and make games that rival PS4 and Nextbox graphics. Remember when Resident Evil 4 came out? People were blown away by that.

what?? no.. i bought ps3 because of games... if specs were the main thing, i would upgrade my pc instead.. but i didn't..

I guess you're part of the 1%

A LOT of people just go "Xbox has better graphics" even though there are only marjonal differences or "ps3 has x, y and z in the specs which make it better" but very little actually think about what those things. To some extent the blu-ray and free online subscription sold me on the PS3

I either choose a console based on games (exclusives) I want, what I can do with the console, and quality/brand loyalty. For example I got a cube because of the Resident Evil remake, but got a Playstation 2 because of the brand and the games library, I got a Wii because it blew me away as far as function (even though before it was announced I swore I'd never get another nintendo console again, cause of the cube), and I got a PS3 because it felt like a high quality machine + blu-ray oh and again brand loyalty.

I'm tempted by the Wii U because of the new controller, but this time I need to know that it's next gen ready as I already have an HD gaming console with a vast games library, I need to know in 2 or 3 years time that any advanced games will be portable, I don't care if the graphics are downgraded, so long as It can handle downscaled ports.

im pretty sure there is a lot ppl buy consoles based on games they offer instead of just 1%.. but it don't matter anyways... and yeah I kinda understand your point.. some ppl just buy things because it looked cool..

1.5 to 2 times more powerful, is more logical without having to shoot up too much on the price...

if the ps4 and xbox720 are really 6x to 10x more powerful, but the prices also 3x to 5x more expensive, will customers pay for it? I won't for sure... i paid about $450 for the fat ps3 before, and that is far as i can go, and i still dont think its that worth it.. im just too bored, and need something new to play =_=

hi.. im new here.. i see lots of forumers here are returning nintendo customers i guess.. from the wii has most votes.. haha.. not that i have problem with it or anything, im just saying

well, if wii u is released, it'll be my first nintendo console that i owned.. i played nintendo consoles before, like snes and gameboys, but those weren't mine.. and i was small back then.. i dont have a very fond memory of them.. haha

so the first console i owned is the PSone, pretty late in its life, which marks the start of my serious gaming life, and then the ps2 (few years before ps3 release) and ps3..

i don't own a wii, because back then i thought, wii is too focused on motion controls, which by any means is super cool.. but i also want a relaxed gaming, where i can sit on the couch like a slouch.. so i get the ps3 instead, planning to get wii sometime later (which i didn't because of money =_=).. and wii u was announced last year, which got me super excited.. it offers me the couch gaming i wanted, with extended experience with the tablet gamepad, and backward compatibility with the wii.. instant win to me..

you guys need to see the price they put up... $8.1 billion.. thats a lot.. if nintendo buy this, they are taking huge risks... I think this is more of a 50-50 situation.. they don't really seeking buyers, just to poke the market and see if anyone wants to buy..

I'm not too happy about the fact he says they have "no intention to bring the engine to Wii U", however. I mean really, they're supporting it on phones, yet the Wii U is out of the question? And we still have to wonder whether these "ports" he talks about are going to be actually relatively equal to 720/PS4 versions or if they're just going to be downscaled to the point where it becomes an obviously inferior version...

Maybe I'm just pessimistic, but this doesn't exactly sound too good. I'm disappointed, Epic.

you see.. Epic is trying to sell it's engine... they are trying to push everyone to buy the engine... so to use the engine, at high scale, it need good hardware.. it's not good if the hardware is too weak, it need to be scaled down so much, that its better to use unreal 3.. like some forummer here said, unreal 3.x can already achieve a batrainbow insane effects... I for one don't really care, but there are ppl who care and I respect that...

so why mobile phone? mobile phone become obsolete very fast... 100 times faster than console (exaggerating).. their hardware is continously changing.. apple bring out new device every year, with better hardware each release... as for android, there is always a new one almost everyday (exaggerating again, I know)! each with better hardware from before... so eventually, phones will be able to support better features of the engine.. so there is always increasing demand for better engines and graphics... not to mention the size of smartphone gaming market..

console on the other hand, stays on the same hardware for a long time... 6-10 years.. if the console can't use the engine, then Epic can't do anything.. the engine Epic build won't sell to the console developers... even so, there is always PC developers, why would Epic bother? I don't know.. I believe there are more developers for consoles rather than PC... even on PC, there isn't much games that use Unreal engine doesn't it? I don't know, please enlighten me on this..

so wii u is out, with not that much of a leap in hardware... of course Epic will be dissappointed... only Sony and microsoft is left.. from the rumor thats whirling about, microsoft may not pushing for that much better hardware too.. as for sony, who knows what is going on in their head... if you are on Epic side, I bet you'll be worried... I wonder how much profit did Epic gained from selling the engine.. I heard the price is 250k per licence.. well i don't know honestly...

there is one thing I hope, developers.. don't play on Epic's hand... high end graphics costs too much... you can see how many developers has died this gen... how many IP's has gone with it... simply because the break even sale point is just too high.. and ppl are very2 selective on a $60 games... just develop a with good enough graphics to suit the game setting, and good gameplay, and i'll be happy.. and I believe many would too...

this is my view on this... I could be wrong.. but, it's just seems too fishy... many developers died of high cost of game development.. but still they want to push it, making it even more costlier...

well that's it... turns out a long post

this is expected... ppl who are "if wii u can't run unreal 4, it's doomed for sure" is just paranoid or plain dumb... i've said before, engines can be tweaked/recode/changed etc to suit any device... scalable.. =_=

running the engine at full force might not be possible, hell, I think none of the next gen console will be able to... lets just wait n see...

if anyone had a ps3 and played demons soul series, you should have already experience the "massively online single player"... and it is awesome..

yup.. related to the "massively online single player" thing.. probably through miiverse..