a japanese rpg would be nice... it's been too long since I played a good one... The screen could be the best enhancer for this genre

hi.. im new here.. i see lots of forumers here are returning nintendo customers i guess.. from the wii has most votes.. haha.. not that i have problem with it or anything, im just saying

well, if wii u is released, it'll be my first nintendo console that i owned.. i played nintendo consoles before, like snes and gameboys, but those weren't mine.. and i was small back then.. i dont have a very fond memory of them.. haha

so the first console i owned is the PSone, pretty late in its life, which marks the start of my serious gaming life, and then the ps2 (few years before ps3 release) and ps3..

i don't own a wii, because back then i thought, wii is too focused on motion controls, which by any means is super cool.. but i also want a relaxed gaming, where i can sit on the couch like a slouch.. so i get the ps3 instead, planning to get wii sometime later (which i didn't because of money =_=).. and wii u was announced last year, which got me super excited.. it offers me the couch gaming i wanted, with extended experience with the tablet gamepad, and backward compatibility with the wii.. instant win to me..

trading card games is pretty cool... if combined with the nfc functions.. it'll be a lot better.. you know, buy actual cards, scan on the nfc.. there you go

here is another one.. Fifa or any football games on the wii u.. imagine that you can change players and tactics on the fly using the screen, without having to pause the game.. I think this is a huge plus especially with in an offline multiplayer game with your friends....

i would do an image for this.. but i suck at image editing.. it'll take years.. lol

Rockband

First person football NFL 2k or NCAA or Madden

Yell Hike!

why i havent though of that! 2 camera perspective in a sports game.. could be pretty neat

I dont know.. it seems to me namco had a bit of problem direct porting games to wii u, processor wise...

Then they're going to hate an 8-core processor running at 2Ghz for the Xbox 8, and Sony's 4 core APU running at 3.2hz

didn't the xbox 8 is rumored to have the similar IBM's processor? or is it the same as what you are saying? =_= I didn't pay attention to specs that much.. If so yeah, they will hate it

Does anybody else feel that like the mario games are gonna always look the same? if you make it more HD and more realistic with better graphics, Like take Battle field 3 enviroment and stick Mario in it i dont think itd work too well i like how mario games look now like mario galaxy 2 looks perfect to me, all this talk about graphical improvement, does that mean its gonna change how he looks?

epic mario would be awesome.. lol

I have no idea what all this means.

haha

just what I thought... a ported already launched game couldn't possibly that much visually advanced.. there will be slight close up difference, but generally the same... unless they recode and optimize the whole thing...

nway, didn't they say the spec is subject to change? supposedly the newer dev kits could have better specs...

OK thanks for clearing that up he should of said what you just told me it can do everything the Xbox 360 can at minimum power settings.Was I the only one confused by that statement he made?

lol you are still confused.. it's like this

no one knows how powerful is wii u.. what we got now are all rumors.. some say weaker, same say 1.5 times more powerful bla bla bla.. but nothing is confirmed..

and this guy here said, it is not weaker... it is at least the same as current xbox OR stronger... capiche?

engine can always be tweaked to run on anything guys.. UE4 has been said to run on tablets and phones, why not wii u

just be patient and wait for some more games come out for us to judge...

What do you mean "ONLY" 48% more powerfull that is a lot actually
just sayin

an almost half-time more powerful? nope.. not a lot

And its only a rumour wanna bet that Microsoft and Sony are gnna cm out with smthin huge with insane graphics they reached the level that Nintendo bearly reached a long time ago so theyr gnna make smthin big but im still buyin the Wii U im not buyin any Microsoft crap or Sony trash

nah,, im not betting lol

but i have a feeling the gap is closer this time...

I don't want to be a douche but I see a very big difference between playing on PS3 and on my PC (1080p Ultra 60fps).

Also I don't think BF3 graphics are that good. Explosions needs a big improvement and just the whole world looks cartoony.

I'm that kind of person who thinks graphics do very much to gameplay. Don't get me wrong. I don't need realistic graphics I just want nice visual. For example I think Pokemon Black 2 has better graphics than MW3 cause Black 2 is more artistically nicer.

It isn't just tech, it's the artist who creates stunning textures and models. Cool GUIs, advanced lightning.

But we will never have to focus that much on graphics. That is the component companies work. Then the rest is automatically there.

you mean art direction.. yeah, its true.. art direction is at least important as the graphics, if not more...

how the hell does thread turned into apple argument? =_=

anyhow, don't be to concerned with the wii u hardware.. based on the arkham city graphic comparison (not really good quality though, but still), you can see some difference in terms sharpness, particle effects.. to me it is better on wii u.. with reference to my experience, gaming on the pc.. though we cannot say how it fares in the cpu processing (how many items, processes can it handle at one time etc.)

and one more thing, is the price... do you think, you can get a monster gaming machine, comparable to today most powerful pc without having to fork out, over $600 - $1000? ok I admit i am bad guessing prices, it is not the currency i always use anyway, so i am not familiar with pc components prices in the US.. but as far as i know, $600 is a lot to spend...

think about it for a second, for those who build pc, i believe $350 and above for graphic card is considered a price for high end graphic card.. correct me if im wrong.. a price of a console should already be around this price, just to include a high end card.. yeah, putting in the possibility of them using a customized chip with similar performances and what not, with special "bulk" prices.. it could be lower or higher, but i dont think it can be that far of differences, like a $100 - $150 off... unless, you know, there is something in business that i don't know that this kind of thing can be done.. that still does not include the processor, the ram, the input media, the exclusive shenanigans they have to put in to make the console sell... and in my observation (comments, hearsay), anything around $300 is "affordable" for gaming console

i believe, nintendo is trying to play safe here... make something that is cheap, but can sell itself without having years of losses.. and i think wii u hardware can be compared to the mid range pc currently.. which i think not that bad if its true.. still a lot of potential.. and console is supposed to be an easy and cheap way to game.. why strain your customers just to get ahead of the hardware game.. yeah it can be future proof.. but in business standpoint, company like nintendo could already have enough profit to develop new console, by the time your hardware superior console is starting to make profit... well i wouldn't know for sure, im just saying..

"cross platform communications".. wow.. that somehow got my eyebrows up.. unexpected

I'm still burnt by my Wii experience and a poor E3 2011 and 2012 not to buy a Wii U straight off unless I know it's future proof for third parties. In this financial climate I can probably only choose to buy one console, I need to know if it's likely that Nintendo can provide a decent enough spec to get ports of 3rd party 8th gen titles as well as high class 1st and 2nd party titles. Cause the only 1st party title(s) that I'm really interested in is Zelda (and possibly Metroid). Not sure if it'd shell out money for a console to play one or two games. Even if the Zelda franchise is one of the best games franchises of all time.

yeah.. can't argue with that..

but.. possibility is endless... I've posted a few weeks back, an article regarding current condition of gaming industry... it's bad, though we as a consumer don't see it... high end graphics game, just costs too much, for now.. it is not good for small developers... I bet there will be one period or generation, the graphics won't progress as much, or it'll come to a stall... maybe that period is now... the next box and ps wont feature a graphical leap, but experience.. and I believe the wii u is competing for that..

as an addon, there is a thread in neoGAF, discussing a leaked patent for xbox 8... it'll a feature literally 2 processor (well judging from the diagram, but may also meant 2 part in a processor doing 2 separate functions, I don't know) which are used for media consumption on one side and gaming from one side.. the thread also quotes and insider statements saying the next box may not feature that much better cpu and gpu for gaming, since the game will cater to whatever available to them ( I agree)... the next box will instead focus on added experience, like the kinect, AR, smartglass, bla3...

so yeah... I believe, it'll be a battle of experience next gen... gaming capabilities, graphics wise, may not be effected that much.. all 3 consoles will be able to compete in gaming nicely...

I'm just going crazy that Nintendo doesn't just nip it in the bud and let us know the specs, we're still probably going to buy one, just denying the specs makes it look like Nintendo are being devious and might be selling us technology that isn't good value for money. AND it allows bad publicity to run riot without a confirmation on the specifications

in current age, its the content that determine the value... hardware to me, is just related to the cost... hell, if nintendo puts out vast superb content on the wii u and price it at $400 or above.. ill still buy it..

well hopefully the developer have enough resources to accommodate higher graphics in the future.... current graphics already costly as it is...

higher graphics = higher cost

Nintendo really has put them selves in A bad position. Sony and Microsoft are making the screens optional so they can focus on power while still competing with nintendo and preventing them from stealing the audience, while nintendo is making the traditional controls optional so they can focus on gimmicks. Some people still think it's an add-on and not A full console. Nintendo's sealed for this next gen as A repeat if they don't make A Ps2 scenario. I know that i won't be getting it was going too but with all these rumours and risks i'd rather buy A different console and garauntee satisfaction with my purchases instead of taking pointless risks.

yeah, right. Don't be surprised if the nextbox come with the kinect built in and with a freakin AR glasses, have you been hearing rumors about that? of course you don't.

and you are forgetting something... developers who push too much into graphics and forget gameplay, are bound to kill themselves... do you know a high end graphics game cost as much as a movie costs? just look how many developers had to close down because their game sales did not break even.. yes, it is not a main factor for a developer to close down, but it contributes..

Supreme commander o_O

if the OP was true.. it was exactly like my PC spec.. except for the RAM.. and my GC was 5750... and I can play any game on high at least...

but i think its a bit lower... the CPU was too much.. it wont be priced at $300 like that...

The problem with the old ps3 as far as I know is because of the welding between the processor and board, not so much with the thermal paste. All thermal paste will dry up at some point, when it dries up, your processor will become hotter than normal, and the fan will tend to rotate faster (if there is a sensor to detect it). Depending on the processor, a few degrees won't really bust the processor.

so don't worry much about the thermal paste, but worry about the quality of the build. Thermal paste will dry up no matter what brand you use.

this is expected... ppl who are "if wii u can't run unreal 4, it's doomed for sure" is just paranoid or plain dumb... i've said before, engines can be tweaked/recode/changed etc to suit any device... scalable.. =_=

running the engine at full force might not be possible, hell, I think none of the next gen console will be able to... lets just wait n see...