the gpu is 8 rops the size of chips as nintendo clearly stated a long time ago is 45nm the gpu is Rv7 design not TURKS and the spoecs are leaked at vgleaks add all the things i already know like powerpc 400 AS WAS TOLD TO YOU YEARS AGO IN A WII U GO ARTICLE BUT YOU REFUSE TO TAKE THE FACT AS FACT!!!!

all leads to a commonsense answer that answer is as follows 45nm MCM 8 rop gpu around the 4670 to 5670 gpus of AMD/ATI 5670 has more shaders but less texture units 4670 has more texture units and less shaders 4670 is 55nm and 5670 is 40nm so ether at 45nm with edram and extra conectors and co processors would look very large on the MCM

ibm edram confirmed mcm confirmed and clearly tiny cpus

all point to a mcm of 45nm and powerpc 4xx broadway fied cores x3 a dsp a arm and a gpgpu due to all the leaks at vgleaks and a commonsense look at heat power and die size

results in a gpu around the HD4670 and a 3x core cpu of powerpc 400 series all on a mcm

this aint rocket science its easy peasy

HD4670 at 55nm in a pc card with gddr3 uses about 59watts the same gpu at 45nm and mcm intergrated with low power heat IBM EDRAM ADDED would way in at no more than 50 watts if not less even with a 800mhz clockspeed

peak power for wiiu is 75 watts NOT ROCKET SCIENCE and ddr is just bog standard ram of course it can use it

why do you think the indusatry keeps saying consoles will die ,,,,,,why do you think they say it will become a small hobby and not many will make consoles why do you think they say the future is all these OS devices

there talking the end of there industry as we know it THERE TALKING AS THO NINTENDO WINNING MEANS THE END YES FOR THEM NOT FOR US.....


consoles will die is code for sony and ms will loose saying consoles will become a hobby and small user base is admitting only nintendo can win THERE USING TWISTED WORDS TO DISCRIBE WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN

IT LIKE PACHTER SAYING THE INDUSTRY IS FAILING ITS NINTENDOS FAULT THEY TOOK ALL THE SALES AND PROFITS

THEN WHEN NINTENDO DIPS A BIT ITS OH THE INDUSTRY IS FAILING BECAUSE NINTENDO IS FAILING WE CANNOT WIN THE ARGUMENT GUYS THE INDUSTRY IS FULL OF LYING IDIOTS

IF ITS UP ITS BECAUSE NINTENDO STOLE THE PROFITS ITS DOWN ITS BECAUSE NINTENDO IS DOOMED THE INDUSTRY IS AWASH WITH CORP OUT OF TOUCH BANKER SUIT WEARING SCUM

already threads for this but ok its nice an all that...........


clearly 4x ram chips leading into the MCM so the 2gb ram is made of 4 512mb chips, what level or type of DRAM we dont yet know but ether gddr3 or 5 will be included if not fast ram like fc ram and or some ddr2 i think one fast one slow for each 1gb is going to be the case likey main game ram will be 128bit and os ram around 32 bit ish like wiis gddr3 is.......

mcm shows system core gpu and memory conectors plus dsp and ;likey starlet arm all on a chip plus a cpu area cpu is very small = POWETPC 400 SERIES BROADWAY CORES EDRAM CATCH

gpgpu looks big forums are saying 55nm i say thats WRONG its a 45nm gpu with 32mb edram included so making it look 55nm ish in size a 5670 or a 4670 with edram 32mb at 45nm would look about the same size as a 4670 at 55nm with no edram


so im guessing its a 4670 /5670 ;like gpu plus 32mb edarm plus co processors and memory controllers at 45nm and thats why it looks so big no idea on bus but a intergrated fsb or ring bus likely used or maybe multipul buses the powerpc 400 45nm ring bus seems most likely or a standrad fsb version at the same bit and clock speed

very clean board minimul chips taking up space and power VERY LIKE GAMECUBE im sure the whole MCM is built at 45nm

Most of it seems nice and orderly ......I'm still worried about the CPU though.

why worry about a edram catch and a 3mb catch vs say x360 why worry about 5 instrutions per clock vs 2 instructions of x360 ps3 and wii why worry about 3xcores out of order why worry about a arm taking up back ground tasks why worry about a dedicated DSP

its not cpu its CPU CO CPU AND DSP AND GPGPU CO GENERAL PURPOSE CPU WORK YOUR LOOKING AT IT FROM A FUNNY ANGLE

its like calling cell ps3s cpu WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG it was a io /os/sound/graphics/cpu ---- multi purpose chip not a cpu i love how the facts are ignored

there is no cpu vs say x360s cpu its a cpu a co cpu and a dsp and gpgpu help VS a x360 cpu LOOK AT THINGS STR8 ON NOT FROM WEIRD ANGLES

Hmm... I was hoping for a few intelligent replies...

thats exactly what you got from a GUY SITTING ON 250000 POUNDS STERLING FROM NINTENDO STOCK """"OUCH""" POWER 7 YES INTELIGENCE CONSIDERING I STATED POWERPC 400 2 YEARS AGO

""OUCH""

APPARANTLY BOOKS WERE NOT WRITEN ON THIS SUBJECT AND EA GAMES DID BACK THE NES AND THE SUPREME COUNTS OF THE USA DIDNT HOLD A TRIAL WERE THE USA COMPUTER INDUSTRY TRIED TO STEAL NINTENDOS PROFITS

SO HISTORY HAS BEEN RE-WRITEN BY 12 YEAR OLD POWER 7 FANS

OUCH

WIIBOY101 THE POWERPC 400 GOD OF 2 YEARS AGO SAYS HI TO ALL THE POWER7 CHILDREN GAMERS

SEAM MALSTROM ALSO TALKS THE POO ACORDING TO THE INTELGENCE LEVELS HERE OH HE ALSO INVESTED IN NINTENDO BEFORE WII HIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SUSGESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its ANTI NINTENDOISM PURE AND SIMPLE HAS EXISTED FROM THE 1980S the computer industry aka the usa led computer os industry blames nintendo for consoles and licence fees it also blames nintendo for HIGH QAULITY AND INNOVATION

the INDUSTRY wants us bashing buttons like IDIOTS and watching semi interactive movies NOT GAMES its pure and simple a lack of talent or vision we the people acording to them should shut are mouths give them are money and buy the CCRAAPPP they produce thats what mick pachter is a INDUSTRY SPOKSMEN being told what to say by high end industry types

theres even books writen about it and people like wiiboy101 and sean maLstrom HAVE TOLD YOU THIS A MILLION TIMES OVER YET PEOPLE STIL WONT LISTEN

why do you think the 3rd partys talk as tho games are movies BECAUSE THERES NO GAMING TALENT ITS ALL JUST PASTE SOME TEXTURES TO A ENGINE TELL A Z LIST STORY AND HOPE FOR PROFIT

just like movies and music its all a freaking lie things used to be built with love and imagination you youngsters just dont realise how bad its got


REMEMBER THIS FOLLOWING FACT YOU GAME FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF GAMING NOT THE EXISTENCE OF A INDUSTRY FORGET THAT THEY GOT YOU BY THE BALLS (PS3 X360 FANS SHOULD KNOW THIS) the founder of EA was interviewed recently and he clearly hates nintendo and japan and point blank refused to make games for nes

atari and the usa computer industry even took nintendo to the courts claiming nintendos profits as there own PATHETIC

clearly theres 4 ram chips feeding into the mcm from the board so the 2gb ram is 4 x 512mb chips


powerpc 400 series with broaDWAY-FIED CUSTOM CORES AND A CUSTOM EDRAM CATCH THATS CLEARLY PROVEN AS FACT POWEWR 7 IS UNDER 10S FANTASY AGAIN FACT

the whatson referance is clearly the 45nm the silicon on insulator and the EDRAM IBM never ever said it was a power 7 and the stupid so called twitter confermation has already been appolagised for by IBM

so again can the under 10 gamer take a reality pill = powerpc 400 series nintendoized broadway cores and customised catch FACT GX 2 is multi core broadway to a SANE PERSON

powerpc 476fp is 2x the cpu per clock vs ARM A9 the wiiu has custom gamecentric version of this core so a wiiu tri core @ say 1.6ghz will rape the azz of a 4x core ARM A9 @ 2.0ghz

also the inside wiiu pictures PROVES BEYOND ALL DOUBT THAT THERES NO POWER 7 AS THE CPU ISNT THAT SMALL ONLY POWERPC 400 IS

REGGIE ALREADY CONFIRMED 3TB HARDDRIVES SUPPORTED


AND ALL 32GB TO 64GB FLASH CARDS / DRIVES ALSO SUPPORTED

think of it this way 4 x usb 2 slots and a sd card slot thats a whole lot of drives and cards supported as much storage as you like

CUSTOM BLU RAY as was gamecube and wii custom use of DVD the nintendo priority bluray will read from disc in a totally differant way to a standard bluray drive and dsic just like wii and gamecube did

this makes piracy very hard and it also allows VERY VERY FAST data streaming not slow loading like ms and sony sysems gamecube couldnt be matched by xbox or ps2 in data loading as gamecube was far far faster at disc to ram streaming a custom version of disc and drive was used

the same thing again will be used in wiiu and again likely by panasonic as wii and gamecube were both custom panasonic drives

the iwata wii u reveal clearly stated a per second load speed 2.5 x ps3s bluray and other tweeks could see wiiu real world loading speed to be very very fast THE WAY A CONSOLE IS SUPPOSED TO BE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cough cough sony and ms

ps3s drive was god awful at streaming for games wii vs x360 and ps3 was lightning fast due to great design and no HD wiiu will offerbthis high speed and the HD


also remember nintendolove compression and real time de compresion of data so even more can stream into ram

Wii U disc read speed is 22.5 MB/s as stated on this page. USB 2 is 35 MB/s so playing games from the hard drive should not be a problem. Installing the game to the hard drive might take a few minutes though.

I will purchase all my games digital for the Wii U if I can, to avoid having my kids shuffling the discs and damaging them in the process. Most likely I will pay a higher price than retail for this, but it is totally worth it.

YEP 2.5 X PS3 DRIVE

yes i do want a delux as im in the UK and il be getting zombi U and a black pro pad with it LET THE ENVY COMENCE

ps3 600p or lower tv screen, x360 600p tv screen

wii u 1080p tv screen and 480p controller screen in real time at 60 frames each NOT NEXT GEN ok il go get my clown shoes and red nose and tiny car that bangs and falls apart because pachter and his freinds say so LOL

do we have anyone who speaks happening here??? Anyways I got nothing out of this article other than the Wii u would look freaking awesome with a clear shell!!

i speak happening and like i said 2 years ago powerpc 400 broadway cores just look at those suckers lol at power7 being that small nice to see the 32mb edram is actually embedded into the gpu logic not over a stone age bus like x360 gamecube was edram in gpu logic a gen before x360 ms please step away from hardware you have no clue clearly

Digital foundry on this iwata ask about the wii u

http://www.eurogamer...-wii-u#comments

-The Wii U motherboard - elegant, spartan, minimalistic - and the MCM module, containing the miniscule CPU and the rather more meaty graphics core. Our impression is of a ruthlessly efficient design, with benefits for both Nintendo and consumers.

-first impressions reinforce the current position that Wii U's design is skewed towards a more feature-rich graphics core with rather more modest CPU power.

-it's worth pointing out that Nintendo appears to have integrated its 32MB of eDRAM into the graphics core itself

-adopting the MCM strategy centralises heat on the mainboard. This makes it easier to dissipate heat with a less expensive cooling assembly, and helps immensely in making the Wii U a significantly smaller unit overall than the PS3 Slim or the Xbox 360S.

-If there's one thing that's rather striking about Nintendo's Wii U teardown it's the minuscule die area occupied by the CPU in relation to the relatively massive GPU from AMD.

because the tri core cpu is clearly powerpc 400 series witch replaces the old 750 power 7 LOL @ those walking the streetz with clown shoes and red noses screaming power 7 for the love of god

small blob 3xcore POERPC 400 BROADWAYFIED LARGE BLOB system center GPGPU 32mbedram DSP LIKELY ARM CO CPU AND MEMORY CONTROLLERS just like wii but now on one die and obviously wiiu spec

main ram sits on motherboard so its a system on die / chip deal with 3mb catch and 32mb gpu edram 2gb ram out side on board just as i thought it would LOOK AT THOSE TINY YET POWERFUL POWERPC 400 CORES the most powerful 32bit risc cores on the planet FACT

^^^ It will only be a matter of time before some 3rd party starts to make cases.

there has never in human history been a GINGER cool guy ad to that the actor used is one of my pet hate celebs UGLY ginger who cannot ACT lol


the sound engine runs wii and wiiu the gpu runs wii and wiiu and the powerpc cpu runs broadway cpu and the 32mb edram and large catch to cpu mimicks the 1t sram of wii GREAT DESIGN YET AGAIN FROM NINTENDO

WHY WOULD I TV INTERACT WITH A TINY SCREEN

WHY WOULD I NOT KEEP THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE IF I HAVE A WII OR WIIU THEN I NEED WII REMOTES THATS COMMONSENSE

first of it was a rep not a bunch of them i.e REPS one guy or gal is not a bunch of people and im sure he/she ment wii not ps3 simple typo miss information going round the net AS PER USUAL !!!!!!!!!!!

No... No... He meant 1.9% of the PS3.

So It would take 50 Wii U consoles just to match the might of the almighty ps3.

Just forget about the power 7 tech, the eyefinity, direct x 11 capable gpu, the 2GB ram, etc.

No. The wii u is nowhere near the power of a gimped cell, a really old nvidia chipset, 512 MB of ram...

No way a next gen system that comes out 6 years later could be 19 x as powerful or display graphics on the order of 400% greater visually. Pffft! What are these people smoking???...

POWERPC 4XX BROADWAY CORES X3 POWER 7 CARRY ON IN YOUR OWN LITTLE UNIVERSE

THE WII U MEMORY FOOTPRINT RAM AND BANDWIDTH IS EASY OVER 3X PS3 IN ITS SELF THE CONSOLE IS FAR MORE THAN A PS3 1.5 BUT ITS NOT 19 X MORE ETHER

THE WQIIU GPU IS A Rv7 AS STATED AT VGLEAKS ALL WIIU SPECS HAVE BEEN LEAKED """""""""""""""""WITCH YOU ALL KNOW""""""""""""" BUT BCAUSE IT DIDNT SAY POWER7 AT 5GHZ YOU DONT WANT TO ACCEPT REALITY !!!!!!!!!!!

FACT

RV7 8 ROP GPU WITH 32MB EDRAM @ 45NM opengl 3.3 plus extentions and custom bits NOT E 6760 most likely based around the 4670 OBVIOUSLY

E6760 is this the processor wiiu gpu is based on nintengen/metaldave


E6760 is this are wiiu gpu............ http://www.nintengen...sed-on-amd.html

ERM SILVERISMONEY ALREADY DID THIS THREAD MONTHS BACK AND NINTENGEN METALDAVE WAS ORIGINAL FINDER

ITS NOT THE WIIU GPU ITS NOT Rv7 PROCESSOR ITS TURKS PROCESSOR NOT RV7

THE WIIU GPU IS A Rv7 SO ITS AMD 4670 THE E6760 is turks sorry to burst bubbles

wiiu gpu is opengl 3.3 plus custom extentions and runs on nintendo GX2 not direct 11


yet another >>fact<< to add the wiiu gpu is 45nm the e6760 is 40nm so again hhhmmmmmmmmmmm

2008 wiiu started design the 4670 was at 55nm a 45nm version customized with 32mb edram could easy be 45nm

the e6760 is clearly 40nm

but stream processors could range from 160 to 800 im guessing at 320 maybe 480 due to gamepads

this gpu already has a thread and was a good fit and a good bit of workl from metaldave but its wrong the gpu is not Rv7 processor the wiiu is clearly a custom version of rv7 4670 is most likely but all manner of things could change

texture units rops streamers fixed function etc all can be changed il put my money as near as damb it AMD 4670

This would contradict the 'vgleaks' 'leak'.


But that leak was proven bollocks, by the leaker no less anyways.

Seriously though, lay off the unnecessary caps. If its more than a few words in a sentence, just use bold or something.

how does it contradict the leak it matches the leak OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH I GET IT JELOUSY ATTTACK BECAUSE HAVNT GOT THE BRAIN POWER TO PUT 2+2 TOGETHER SO ATTACK THE GRAMMAR (SONY FANBOYS DO THAT ARE U ONE BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE POST CANNOT BE ATTACKED AS ITS TRUE THRUTH HURSTS ALL THAT)

LOL YOU 11 YEASR OLD THE GPU IS CLEARLY BASED ON IT


so based on what FACT is it the wrong gpu

iv proven factually powerpc cpu not OPINION BASED power7 fantasys



oh sorry did i upset your power 7apple cart and now your 32 pipe 100000000ghz gpu fantasys lol

Wrong GPU.

and again put the money were the mouth is DONT POST AND RUN POST AND PROVE BRING THE FACT BRING THE INTELIGENCE BRING THE HARDCORE INTELIGENTS


sorry i up set the power7 fantasy and sorry i guessed th gpu and u didnt TANTRUM TIME HAHAHAHA PATHETIC

80 hours!!! I might pick one up now but I honestly love the Gamepad's design....so I might just wait and pick it up with Black Ops 2 or some other better FPS if another gets announced for early next year

for fps for black ops ......................................il be remoting and chucking thank u very much nearly spat tea at the screen fps i wont be RETO controlling my fps games


2d games and such yes fps wii remote all the way iv noticed the darksiders game that is kinda resident evilish (over the shoulder) zelda ish also yet no wii remote and chuck support

so iv played 2 zeldas on wii and darksiders dev expects me to go silly pony gamer and dual analog stick sorry going FALL silly pony is bad didnt you see the movie developers

well thats obvious the gpu its based on is at least dx 10.1 and with the customization and the bandwidth offerd by edram its sure to do that level but please remember dx 11 is a api its not graphics power its a interface middleware standard nothing more nothing less

a dx11 tablet gpu cannot do a dx 9 level graphics in a dask top gpu dont read to much into a interface software

right iv looked around done some math and im sure its dead on or as near as damb it ,,the gpu is based on AMD 4670 (I SO HOPE I GOT THAT RIGHT THE GPU NAME NOT THE INFO)....

EVERYTHING LEAKED AT VGLEAKS COMBINED WITH IWATAS RESENT TALK TO US AND THE YEAR 2008 BEING YEAR 1 FOR WIIU DEVELOPMENT AND THE NINTENGEN GPU BEING KINDA TO NEW AND NOT MATCHING THE VGLEAKS API LEVEL SO RULING IT OUT.....

LOOKS LIKE AMD 4670 TO ME....


the base api level stated at vgleaks, the nm size stated by nintendo the nm size of 2008 gpus from amd and the nm size of gpus to day all point to it being a AMD 4670 base for the wiiu gpu then ad in the 75 watts peak wattage draw and the 8 rops (pixel pipes) its all screaming wiiu gpu started life as a amd 4670

the 4670 has 8 rops, 32 texture units, 320 stream processors and a standard clock speed of 750 mhz basically its the 8 rops version of the 4870 everyone went crazy about a few months back with all the ign leaks etc

its in fact the same gpu but 8 not 16 rops its perfect for 1080p were as a 16 piper would be more 4k lol



ITS ALSO STRONGLY RUMORED THE GPU HAS CUSTOM UP GRADES TO LIGHTING AND POST PROCESSING EFFECTS

75 watts and 40 watts average 75 maxed out all guns a BLAZZING

the amd gpus that this console would run of range from 25watts to 50 watts then we look at the nm its 45nm wiiu its 40nm for the lastest and some of the latest amd E class gpus and gpus

then we can look at power draw for 55nm and 40nm gpus its clear that nintendo is using very low wattage cpu cores = powerpc 476fp type cpus in broadway spec not fp

then ad the edram instead of sram for catch IF EDRAM IS IN FACT BEING USED thats again a lower power draw 3x powerpc fp at 1.6ghz = 4.8 watts for 3x core a dsp and a arm co cpu we can easy be looking at no more than 7 watts

a top of the range E class amd gpu like the one at nintengen rumored to be the wiiu gpu with 1gb ram is 35 watts at 40nm

the gpu in wiiu was based on amd 55nm then shrunk to 45nm with 32mb edram that plus the 2 pools of ram MAXED OUT could be 50 ish watts thats leaving 25 for the drive etc

its clearly the gpu at full power that eats up power the cpu is clearly all said and done below 10 watts including co processors i wouldnt be supprised if the gpu alone was 45 watts leaving 30 watts for the whole system - gpu

amb 4670 8 rops shrunk customized and 32 mb edram added (at 55 nm with ram this card was 58 watts 750mhz i think) at 45nm tweeked and polished with edram not counting ram it could easy be 45 watts @ 800 mhz

interested but il have to ah-hhhhmmm at them being or not industry experts iv seen plenty of them around and lets just say experts isnt what they were im also a great fan of the other self worship line """"part of the industry"""" so many just out of nappys games jurons aged around 21 think there PART OF THE GAMES INDUSTRY funny that i thought you were part of the jurnalist industry etc lol............

iv seen so called experts say outragus k-c-r-a-p like psvita is CORE it has a multi touch screen and im like WOT

I haven't heard from any source that a virtual 5.1 audio being transmitted to the game pad. I personally would still prefer using my Recon 3D because I would have control over what I would hear.

its obvious that it does 3d stereo surround is supported by gamepad so the same effect but built for head phones is bound to work (totally forgot about headphone jack) it will just be like head phones vs speakers on a handheld suround effects and left right back and front will be supported i wounder how these connect on wiiu iv not looked into it at all