I know the PS Vita screen has this problem if you look at an image for prolonged periods of time. What kind of screen does the gamepad use?

If only they gave us the option to upgrade ram ourselves like you can do with a PC.

I can't wait til tomorrow!!!

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in theory yes, but the latest report from eurogamer says that while playing NSMBU the console was consuming only 33W and around 29W in the menus with no disc

If that's the case I wonder how much cooler the console would run if you could install the disc, so it wouldn't have to run. I also wonder how much the watts would be reduced if Nintendo decided to add this feature.

If you didn't want a Wii U for it's exclusives then what were you expecting from it's ports? Most of you spec elitist should have been smart enough to build your own rig. It would have fulfilled your graphic whore needs.

None of them are sealed, the box is really really secure, and the gamepad doesnt come with tape

The white bag the game pad was in was opened, and so was the bag the console was in.

Should I be concerned? The box didn't have it's seal on each end. The controller didn't have the green tape to seal it in the white bag, and the console itself didn't have any green tape on it. The reason I'm concerned is because I watched unboxing videos with all the seals, and I recall my wii having these same seals. I picked mine up at Gamestop. I asked another customer if his had seals on the box, and there wasn't for his either. I didn't see if his was sealed inside.

I think there are no seals I thought I saw a unboxing on you tube and the guy went for his box cutter and then noticedthere was no seal I would not be worried as long as the system was wraped in the plasic you should be good

That's the thing though the bags were opened. I thought they were suppose to be tightly sealed to prevent dust and scratches? I haven't turned it on yet, but I hope they weren't throwing it around. I expected it to be factory sealed.

Was there plastic sticky stuff on it? Like clear plastic tape that you had to peel away from the console?

No, there was no tape or anything sticky on it.

Another thing I found odd was that there was no Club Nintendo points. Also, the HDMI cable is silver plated but perhaps that's just nit picking. I hope this console has nothing wrong with it. I'm goiing to test it out after lunch. Oh, and one other thing when I hit the power button on the game pad it turned on. I found that odd because normally you would have to charge these devices because the batteries are fully depleted.

Then it has previously been opened. You're too late to take it back though if you've left the store already.

If there's something wrong with it I can take it back. The guy said he had two others in the back.

The only thing that had green tape was the Wii sensor bar. It's covered by Nintendo for a year. I think I'm going to stop buying consoles from Gamestop. I don't like their policies of opening sealed copies of games, and sealing it to me as a new copy. Not cool at all. Especially, if I'm buying someone a game as a gift.

That was before because they thought that they don't have the time enough to do the same as the ps360 versions.
http://mynintendonew...other-versions/

"It’s not like some radically diminished version" He's not just talking about the Wii in comparison but he also seems to be implying subliminally that it's not a spot on port.

These CPU specs were taken whent the system was at IDLE in a menu.
Most PCs now a days will cut the CPU power down to save energy. As soon as you fire up a game or do something heavy on the PC the CPU will function at peak capactiy. I know this because my friend said his PC was advertised at having a 3.0 GHz processor. While at the Windows desktop it only showed 1.5 Ghz. As soon as we launched a game, i went to the desktop and checked again and it was at 3.0 GHz just as the box said it should be. I changed his power settings and bam it was always listed as 3.0GHz.

Ill wait untill Nintendo gives us the real story.

You have a point but this console isn't next gen.

You seem to not have a grasp on what defines a next gen console.

Next gen is the next generation of hardware a company releases.

That's not what I meant. It's on par with the current consoles and won't be able to compete with the new consoles Sony and Microsoft are going to release. They said it was 3X more powerful then the current consoles they lied.

Oh. I was confused for a second.

It's not deniable that the launch titles of the PS4 and 720 are going to look better than Wii U exclusive titles, the 720 and PS4 will be using 2012 hardware. Quality wise though it's mostly going to be ports of Wii U games, 360 games, and PS3 games. God of War 4 and Uncharted 4 won't be launch titles, quit in living lalala land.

It's not a far stretch considering Uncharted Golden Abyss was a launch title for the PS Vita and it's arguably one of the best looking games for the handheld so far and it's not even using it's full resolution. If the new God of War game is coming out next year for the PS3 it's very likely that it will come out for the PS4 which I'm sure they will take the time to repolish the graphics.

nah, do you think nintendo doest know what a bottleneck is? a company that has been building consoles for 29 years? i really think that they know something that we dont, or we dont know about theyr bussiness strategy so, start to claim nintendo's death its pointless seriously, i believe they know what they are doing

you need to calm down, take a breath and enjoy the console =O, if then you have the need to buy the next xbox or ps go on

PD: i remember an article from shinen the dev from nano-assault saying something about that the wii u avoid the typical bottlenecks, i dont know how but they said it

How do you expect for me to relax when we have Iwata apologizing on behalf of Nintendo's obvious F up? I don't take to kindly into being advertised something that's 3X more powerful then the competitors consoles when it's clearly not. I paid 300 plus tax and 60 plus tax only to wait til the console gets patched for the game to function properly? You call this acceptable?

Wait, what?

Launch PS3 and 360 games look awful, they didn't look as good as they do now.

Launch PS3 and Xbox 360 games looked better then PS2 and xbox games. We're not talking about that we're talking about Launch PS4 and Xbox720 titles that will look better then the Wii U's exclusive launch titles. I'm willing to bet Sony will have God of War 4 and Uncharted 4 as launch titles.

We don't know the Wii U's full potential, even the hacker himself said so. You're basing the power of the Wii U off of a couple bad ports. You do realize that developers do not use the full potential of a console at launch, right?

Right that's why the competitors launch exclusives will look better then the Wii U's.

How do you know they lied...? Because the ports of the games from other consoles aren't 3X better? If Nintendo would have said "the clock frequencies of the CPU and GPU will be 3X as high as current consoles", that might have been a lie, judging from this. But they didn't. And come on, of course it will compete with Sony's and Microsoft's next consoles, even the Wii managed to compete with the 360 and the PS3, even though the difference in specs were probably much bigger than what will be the case between WiiU and the next Microsoft & Sony consoles.

That's why their 3rd party support sucked. It's funny how history repeats itself. The Wii's dead now and Sony and Microsofts consoles still thrive.

I doubt it. The wii was the best thing that ever happened to nintendo, and both the wii u and 3ds are starting to look like a slightly lesser success of the wii and ds... And with vita putting up far less of a fight than psp...

Wow though if he gets through starbuck and it still reads back like this.

Just wow.

This is really bad news for 3rd party support. I'm curious as to how UBI got AC3 to run properly. The PS Vita failed due to lack of promotional support and lack of faith developers have for it. Due to what happened in the past with the PSP. However in terms of hardware it's vastly superior then the Wii and 3DS handheld but I'm sure you already knew that.

The end of of nintendo will be when Xbox will have better exclusives(that will not happen), then we will be screwed.

Sony clearly has the better exclusives. What does Microsoft have going for it? Cheap rehashes of Halo and Gears of War.

Newer boxes have shinier functions to use.
It's easily on par with last gen.

Clearly they spent most of their money on creating the gamepad. When their main focus should have been the console. Motion controls was innovative for its time, but touch screen functions. Apple had that covered years ago so much for innovation o_____O Whatever happend to the head piece that would allow us to control the games with our mind?

Nintendo has The Legend Of Zelda, Super Smash Bros, Super Mario, Metroid, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Star Fox, F-Zero, Pikmin and more......
Sony only has God Of War, Rachet and Clank and Infamous and Uncharted 2( I think that Uncharted 3 is wayyyyyyyyy over rated).

I think you're forgetting a couple others. Heavy Rain, The Last of us, Demon Souls, Killzone, Resistance, Metal Gear Solid 4, InFamous 2, Little Big Planet 1. 2. Vita, Wipeout HD, White Knight Chronicles, The Last Guardian, Tearaway, Motorstorm, Modnation Racers, Journey, Gran Turismo 5 and God of War Ascension just to name a few. I wasn't saying Nintendo didn't have great exclusives. I was saying Microsoft didn't. Well beside the Fable series and the Witcher 2.

While the apocalypse may not come to us on december 21st. I fear the end has already begun for Nintendo.

All of the games that you said(and I mean all of them) have nintendo games that destroys them!!!

Typical fanboy response. Show me sale figures and game of the year rewards and we'll settle this short lived debate.

but slower clock speed does not mean current gen lol, actually the clock speeds are worse thanc urrent gen, but the gpu is more modern it has features and its capable to do some things that 360/ps3 cannot, thats obvious too, while at the same time other hardware pìeces will help to mitigate the cpu speed

The inevitable Bottleneck begs to differ.

Nintendo has Mario.
Nintendo win's!
Plus, I am not a fanboy, I just think that each consoles has its positives and negatives against and I think that one of Nintendo's positives is their exclusives!

Cop out much? I agree that each console has it's gems but saying Mario is better then what Sony has to offer is flat out fanboyish.

So?
It's more modern, thus ac3 would run on it just as easily as the 360.
Their spending habits weren't what I quoted you about.

That's only after the fact that the game had to suffer compromises such as graphical cut backs lighting and particle effects.