I believe its disabled right now.

Only 16 cores come on Microsoft you can do better than that I won't expect nothing less than 232,739 cores from you it won't be next gen capable of AAAA games unless it has that many cores.

Xbox 720 is a generation leap?

Well, we are technically rolling in the 8th gen at the moment, so does that mean Microsoft is ditching this generation altogether.

Sounds like the stupidest risk, or the biggest payoff. It... is interesting.

Generation leap from the xbox 360/ps3.

Too Fast needs a Dust brown Filter over it and 24 Cinematic frames per second.

You guys did see the rest of it right? It is a little interactive see the uncut bird demo below. Since I didn't go to E3 I want to know how it looks on the Wii U/my Tv.
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bhS_mMjPU&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.c...feature=related[/url]

I found a better one that shows the controller screen.

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

I do think they should launch it with the Wii U.

Yeah I seen it a while ago one thing that could have made it look better would of been better water since it looked meh and flat like most ps3/360 water does even though the fish when it jumped out of the water if you pause for a few seconds you see the water rises in a wave but that it for movement.

.... all my favourite games are ugly...

like super mario galaxy 2, when I mean ugly is I don't like toon link...


Maybe ten years ago...


You knew me when?...


People just go crazy about everything because their favourite game gets bashed on...


True, zelda games are pretty good. It's just that WW doesn't appeal to me all that much.


I do that with almost every game...


I hate the elderly. XD


Yes but....

it looks too cartoony....

I like my zelda to look like OOT or TP or SS....



What?....

It may have a cartoon look to it but the game itself is far from it like 3ddude said it has the best and most tragic version of ganondorf with what could be considered a bitter sweet ending.

looks nice for an HD remake at least they up the graphics not just the resolution : that being said I feel they need to lower the bloom it looks like you been in a dark room for weeks and you step outside and your eyes hasn't got use to it yet .

The controller is and probably will stay 480p but It doesn't matter considering it has a high PPI

just decided to lay this here while most of this stuff we knew I don't think it was known that it was 45n don't ask where it came from it was posted a few minutes ago on neogaf.

Fake in my opinion. Also, remember that Ubisoft said the Wii U would only support one GamePad and they were wrong. This is really unreliable.

But the spec info that was given was by a developer of Asscreed wouldn't he know the specs of what he was working with.

First of, its Assassins creed Second, how do we know it was given by a dev? I could just as easily have sent them an email saying I'm a dev and know everything about Wiiu. Try to keep an open mind to different possibilities, instead of believing everything you read about.

Asscreed is what the sorten version of Assassin creed is . I said in the start of this topic that I am unsure of the reliability that being said I am keeping my mind open by not just yelling fake at this information considering after this week and what we seen that seems to be the truth in all honesty not a powerhouse of a console but just something slightly more powerful than the 360 and ps3 pretty much the ps3 with a better graphic card. Their no reason to believe information about it having super expensive graphic card and etc than this information.

The one controller support info was given by Ubisoft. Wouldn't they know how many controllers the Wii U supports?

Its possible that the person from Ubisoft thought they was asking about their games (ie: zombiU) supported multiple screened controller . Its also possible the the dev kit they had wasn't able to use them as hardly any games will use multiple screened controller I'm saying that right here because any game thats 30 fps won't be able to use them and many devs with games with 60 fps won't want to use them since their game is best played at 60fps and would not want it to be lowered when playing local .

Now given that information we can link both these claims together It's possible that the Ubisoft developer hadn't got the latest dev kits so it would make sense that the specs are not the best and that also could explain why Ubisoft said only 1 controller because with their dev kit its too weak for multiple ones.

I am still worried with this information is how much Nintendo not telling developers this close to the system release. If Nintendo hasn't given the final dev kits or in fact hasn't finished them (worst case) it could lead to poor buggy third party games because of that which has happened in the past.That could also explain the lack of Third party games most recognizable is lack of Third party new games as its possible Devs are waiting for the specs to be final before getting the dev kits or even trying to make game for the system or if they do have dev kits porting over already made games from last year to test them out.

http://www.insidegam...-gpu-is-sterker
well I can't say how reliable this site is but they say they got that information from a member of Asscreed team from ubisoft.

You can't see what happens at that level and thus can be seen as being irrelevant.

It may be but, what I was replying to said that for something to be like real life it must perfectly simulate the real world with every detail which to do so you have to go to the cellular and atomic levels.

Not really. There are paintings and 3D renders that look perfectly like real life, and I'm sure they weren't painted and modeled atom by atom.

UGG read the post I was quoting if you couldn't look back to the last page it was this quote


"Real life as in, perfectly simulating the real world. Every single detail. "

To achieve this you would need to go to the atomic level since he said every single detail. You guys are talking about looking like its real life which I said in my Second post was possible but to get every single detail no matter how small is not possible and thus we will never truly get True Real Life simulation as the quote above was pointing to .


*NOTE * It may be possible in 300-800 years but I'm pretty sure nobody working in that timeframe *Note*

It will someday. Just not this upcoming generation.

I don't think it will happen what I mean is they can make make a video game that looks just like real life but that won't be simulating everything in the real word that will be going down to cellular and atomic levels of detail which just won't happen.

Real life as in, perfectly simulating the real world. Every single detail.

That itself will never be possible.

But apparantly still not aware they worked on ps3/360 games.

Which was the point of my last post.

Yes I know (since you posted that) It does in fact give me confidence though that they have touched the other consoles .
I'm hoping the CPU comes out much stronger than the 360s cpu but at a lower clock speed.

so apparently it has a weak cpu and an slow ram and a strong GPU so ugg it sounds like the first time Nintendo has ever built something this stuff seems like a mistake a novice would make.

Shin en has been a Nintendo exclusive 3rd party since 1999. Before that they were pc devs.

Now, there is a reason why they are still considered a third party, and not a second party. They make games for Nintendo products by choice. Likely because They have the know how to code to metal in an industry where that is quickly becoming a lost skill, and thus can stand out head and shoulders above anyone else with a very cheap to produce product.

However, Shin en skills is well known throughout the industry, and everybody respects them. Shin en does free lance work for many, MANY, companies, very well known companies, they simply only release games under the shinen lable for Nintendo platforms.

Some of Shin ens strong middleware relationships:

• The Game Factory
• Eidos Interactive
• Core Design
• THQ/Softgold
• Infogrames France
• Midway
• Vicarious Visions
• Slitherine
• Torus Games
• Majesco Sales
• Artificial Mind & Movement - A2M
• Wayforward Technologies
• Acclaim Entertainment
• Infogrames UK
• Neon Software

They have indeed, coded products for systems other than those released by Nintendo. Everyone respects Shin en. They are 5 dudes who know their stuff. When they say something, listen, no qualifiers.

By the way, Nano assault Neo is running on 1 cpu core.

I know I love Shin en I have
Fast Racing league (Wii)
Nanostray (DS)
Art of Balance Touch (3ds)
I am quite aware of their optimization and game making abilities.

Googly moogly, they work with Neon enterprise software, that ones new.

Thats top of the line mainframe super computer software optimizing they are doing. These guys are nuts.

But yeah, I had to make doubly sure people realize they know much MUCH more than just Nintendo hardware.

The cpu will fall well below the 360/ps3 in terms of floatingpoint operations a second, and in turn simd loops. Which, is pretty who cares, the most not good thing about ps3/360 was its focus on flops. Gpu's need flops (sorta), cpu's need general purpose, which ps360 were garbage at. Developers were, eventually, able to build something worthwhile around the flop strengths, but when a life cycle goes on 2-3 years longer than any system cycle in history, that should be expected.

That being said, all signs point to ps4/durangos cpu's also falling below cell and xenon in flop count. WHich would make bc very very difficult.

These consoles will be very dissimilar to this gens consoles.they will not simply be an enhancement of 360/ps3. Thats because, Dennard scaling is reaching the end of physical possibility with silicon on insulator. New wells need to be dipped into, and each well is shallower than the last. Its the main reason the 5 year cycle has been broken. The power advancement/price ratio of the past 30 years has been broken.

So many people are going to be so dissapointed by this gen.

Hopefully the disappointment will work in favor for wiiu owners.

here was the wiiu teardown http://www.twitch.tv/pcper/b/341042388 I feel they might be a couple mistake they made with the ram I could be wrong but I don't think they found a complete match.

They didnt, but their number was correct. Iw as talking about the beyond3d/gaf guys. I found the complete match, and matched it with the data table matrix provided by samsung, in my post above.

For example, I believe they mussed their bit orginization, they had 16x, but they accidentally had 16x4, instead of 8, which would give very narrow 64 bit, as opposed to a 128 bits.

Playing the Nintendo multiples game with the information I got from the ram, Im going to go with the good old Nintendo 3, and guess the cpu is 3x800Mhz (ram speed) landing us at 2.4Ghz for the cpu.

Ok Well hopefully we can figure out the entire puzzle I recently closed the tab on the Neogaf CPU thread because It was giving me headaches but I have the Wiiu Final Spec thread open to see if anything else is found out .

The wii u is not novice just becuase it has one weakness! Thats like saying the Genesis was way better than the SNES because of so called "blast processing"!

That was a long time ago, also its not one weakness its apparently slow CPU and Slow Ram and a strong GPU but even the GPU isn't a beast.

I agree the Cpu/RAM may be kind of slow but that doesnt give people the ability to say the whole thing sucks like some poeple are.

I didn't say it sucks (If you was speaking to me) I just said it seem like a novice pc builder would make in fact a mistake I almost made once.