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Nintendo:

Gameboy (shared with mom)

Gameboy Advanced

Gameboy Color 

3DS (shared with dad & sister)

Wii (shared with sister)

Wii U

3DS XL

DS

DS Lite (shared with sister)

DSi (shared with mom)

SNES

Famicom (Asian here) (shared with my dad)

Sony:

Playstation (shared with dad)

Playstation 2 (shared with sister)

Playstation 3 (shared with dad)

Playstation Portable (shared with dad)

Playstation Vita 

Microsoft: 

Xbox  360 (joint purchase with friend)

Little Blue Penguin

Vita: No Heroes Allowed, Jetpack Joyride, Persona 4 Golden planning to get Gundam, HyperDimension Neptunia or some other RPG 

3DS: Fire Emblem, Black 2, White, NSMB2, planning to get Dream Team or AC and XY of course.

PS3: ME3, Metal Gear HD Collection, Metal Gear Solid 4, planning to finally get TLOU

WiiU: BO2, Sonic Racing, SSBB

The funny thing is that 3Dude always backs up his theories/facts with evidence, but other people seem to think he's nothing but a biased fanboy. And even then, they do nothing to disprove him. It's quite sad.

3dude always has facts to back him up. You're my hero 3dude . 

Can we just please close this thread or something? Desert Punk, Djlewe and that other dude keep on coming back for their weekly beatings.

I don't understand ignorance in this thread. I don't see anyone who is defending Nintendo saying the Wii U is more powerful then the PS4 and Xbox 1. What they are saying is that it'll be able to hold it's own in this gen much more then the Wii did last gen.

 

For god's sake, if you want the Wii U to be as powerful as the Xbox 1, then go freaking buy an Xbox 1. If you want the Wii U to be as powerful as the PS4, then go freaking buy a PS4.

 

Finally, stop trying to say the Wii U is less, equal, or barely above PS360. Clearly, just the fact alone that the Wii U uses modern architecture in the same way the PS4/Xbox 1 does regarding CPU and GPU says a lot about how hardware has transformed since the last generation to make itself much more efficient then ever before.

 

Now cut the crap.

Zombi u was a 360 game, turned into a wii game, turned into a wii u game at the last minute.

 

 

You.... arent very good at this. This is a blocky game, with tiny environments, and the environmental shadows dont even cast onto the characters. Its clearly unfinished and I wouldnt be using it.

Thanks guys. You are just plain awesome. 3Dude, you're the man. Sorcerer12, good job too. I don't get why defending Nintendo is called fanboying.

Oooohhhhh. Syks got pwned. GJ 3dude.

That was a 3rd party game. 

Syks, I don't know if you're a troll, serious or just plain delusional but X is an OPEN WORLD RPG. Killzone (a franchise I love), is a FPS which only have closed environments. When we see a Nintendo-made, closed-environment FPS/game ; that's the time we can actually debate about the topic. Open world games require much much more resources than FPSes. Also, Mario Kart looked pretty close in terms of graphics considering Mario is a racing game.

I buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games. I knew what I was getting into. The 3rd party games are a bonus and I will be supporting the 3rd parties anyway. I'm just saying that the Wii U can do comparable graphics to the PS4. No need for an argument. If I need the best graphics I have my PC and PS3 for that. You don't have to call me out or something like that because you don't know me. Don't just assume I'm a Nintendo fanboy dude. Last thing, you're arguing with me, a 13 year old here. Ughhh. 

Sadly this another thread turned to garbage by staunch defenders of Nintendo who don't have a fair bone in their body.

 

It's clear the wii u is powerful enough for the games of the type Nintendo produce and the wii u is a gpu-centric console so ideal and the performance of wii u games at E3 is entirely expected for a console that has a more modern gpu that is slightly more powerful than 360/PS3. Games written with its specification in mind will look better than 360/PS3.

 

Cartoon graphics do not push the hardware.Take the wii for example Mario Galaxy is visually very nice but the few fps games produced for wii look utterly terrible that are trying to show the real world.

 

The ps4 gpu is 1800gflops compared to 350gflops approx for wii u. Clearly in the huge increase of memory and gpu performance the ps4 will be able to produce graphics far beyond wii u in realism. Cartoon graphics may not be as dramatic a difference but it really depends on the game engine.

 

We don't know the details of Monolith's game but we do know they have a reputation for extracting full performance out of the wii. We don't know how much of the movie sequences shown were pre-rendered or using the game engine. For actual gameplay we don't know the complexity of the engine or have seen the full graphics up close. This really was the only game that could claim to be beyond current-gen but we really don't have the full details. It looks a great game though although that said Xenoblade Chronicles wasn't the huge hit people were expecting with far less than 1 million copies sold world wide and that was for a console that had sold 100 million.

 

There is a good unbiased article here about AMD Jaguar.

 

http://www.anandtech...4-kabini-temash

 

There is a good quote in the conclusion;

 

Jaguar is presently without competition. Intel’s current 32nm Saltwell Atom core is outdated, and nothing from ARM is quick enough. It’s no wonder that both Microsoft and Sony elected to use Jaguar as the base for their next-generation console SoCs, there simply isn’t a better option today. As Intel transitions to its 22nm Silvermont architecture however Jaguar will finally get some competition. For the next few months though, AMD will enjoy a position it hasn’t had in years: a CPU performance advantage.

 

Clearly though not that great a chip for any single threaded software on PC but in the PS4/Xbone environment its clear fully multi-threading will be utilised.

 

It's just so utterly mad and stupid to compare a console with 1GB of memory (for games), a slightly enhanced gpu and a weak cpu to ps4 which is hugely more powerful.

 

The argument of diminshing returns again is another false argument from those with huge bias. They are basically trying to say the wii u isn't as weak as you think and you don't need that extra power anyway so the wii u is fine.

 

The reality is the ps4 will have many games that the wii u simply isn't capable of, just like the PS3 and 360 had games the wii wasn't capable of.

 

I would love to say otherwise but the wii u is current gen performance overall. That doesn't mean it is not capable of superior graphics, it means as a package including its cpu performance it is in the same area and this is how wii u games perform overall.

 

However this is really a mute argument anyway because the wii u simply won't be getting the games that push the boundaries of console gaming, it's not getting those games because they won't be released on wii u because of many reasons.

 

The wii u is a fantastic console but its not the right choice at all if you want modern fps experiences and other major multiformat titles of the same quality as ps4 or xbone. It is not competitive in that area at all. Such games even if released on wii u may even struggle to match ps3 or 360 versions as has been the case for the majority of games previously and there is absolutely no reasons why it won't continue that way.

 

The upcoming wii u games look great and I'm looking forward to getting them but this whole argument that the wii u is competitive with ps4 or even xbone on a performance level is pure rubbish with no basis in reality. The PS3 and Xbox 360 have as much a right to claim they are competitive with PS4 and Xbone as wii u has. Let's face it most major titles are being cross developed on 360, PS3, PS4 and xbone anyway so there will be versions for all those consoles to buy where as the wii u won't be getting most of those titles.

 

If the wii u had sold well so it got versions of multi-format games no doubt we would have many months ahead analysing wii u versions and seeing how they compare but that's not happening anyway. There are only a few major projects still live and most of the other wii u titles that aren't coming from Nintendo or its first parties are looking fairly minor.

 

Clearly if you want high quality versions of major upcoming titles from major publishers the answer is not wii u. I knew this when I bought my wii u.

Okay. The Wii U ISN'T as powerful as the other 2 and won't be able to produce much better graphics. That's fine. We have reached a point where we only need graphics at a certain level and gameplay emphasized higher. I acknowledge that the Wii U is weaker than the other 2 but that just mean games will be less ambitious and devs will have to be more creative. 

Before you say I'm a fanboy, I'm not. I play Sony, Nintendo and PC but I just won't be getting the PS4 this gen since I do not feel a need to with my PC. Hell, I support the Vita.

I have an older PC just need to upgrade graphics card.

You should see the build I posted in the other thread. Same price as the Xbox One. Alternatively, you can visit /r/buildapc at reddit.

The logic: people want games on the Wii U but when a company wants to put a multiplat game on the U with unique features, you don't buy it. 

Like what Gamer said, Wii U is fine. All we need are some game which are coming out soon. The graphics are no problem at all. Are you blind Syks? The U has comparable graphics.

Jose Otero is basically the best qualities of Rich and Matt C. combined into a less annoying male version of Audrey.

All we really need is more activity and more members. 

They're not pessimists, they're just Sony fangirls.

Dis WILL luk gud soo good on PS4 Nintendo dissapointing. I luv 3Ds tho. oh yah, wii u sux