I now have:

Mario 3D World
Zelda Wind Waker
Pikmin 3
Rayman Legends
Deus Ex
Batman Arkham City
Batman Arkham Origins
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Mass Effect 3
Assassins Creed 4
Lego City
Lego Marvel
Wii Party U
Just Dance 2014

And then eshop games:
Runner 2
Gianna Sisters
Cloudberry Kingdom
The Cave
Ducktales
Trine 2
Earthbound
Super Metroid
Donkey Kong

Not bad for the first year I think.

On Wii U I'm currently playing:

Mario 3D World
Assassins Creed 4
Lego Marvel

3DS:

Bravely Default
Zelda: Link Between Worlds

Xbox One:

Battlefield 4
Fifa 14

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner with common sense!

The funny thing is, it seems 3Dude is the only one that actually does have any common sense.

Your actual quote said that anyone enjoying the game needed to stop hyping the game up because you'd played it and it wasn't that good.

3Dude has been completely reasonable, and not once has he said that anyone is wrong for not liking it. Read the thread back.

The funniest bit is bring up 'opinions', because that's the biggest get out clause going for talking nonsense.

It's an OPINION. You really need to learn to stop taking thing so literal and serious on a forum, especially where some might not share the same ideals as you. I think that this game is heavily overhyped. You don't. Am I questioning you or trying to attack me like you did to anyone person that disagreed with you? No I'm not. I'm simply responding to you. I'm not the only one that had problem with the touch controls. Users on IGN, GameFAQs, Gamespot, Serebii's forums, and NeoGAF also had problems. Stop it. Seriously. You argue cause you try, note the keyword "try" to countlessly win arguments like they are some kind of accomplishment. I'm entitled to post whatever I feel on the game, you don't like it? Too bad, suck it up and go back to debating meaninglessly about the specs of the Wii U. I'm done with you. I'm not the only who sees your counter-argument as incredibly not good.


Yes its definitely common sense. 3Dude definitely has the right to attack anyone who doesn't like The Wonderful 101 or fines a flaw in the game! Get out "clause?" That utterly ridiculous nonsense. I'm not trying to get out of nothing. I don't fear 3Dude nor am I afraid to debate with him. However, when you want to argue for hours upon hours about difficulties somebody found with the controls and they didn't like it, you obviously have issues to work out. Not every game is for everyone, he doesn't seem to comprehend that because die-hard love for Nintendo is too strong.


I'm pretty sure I was clear when I said "I found the line/circle drawing to be unresponsive"

The thing is, you're complaining about your opinion not being respected, yet don't seem to realise that telling people they are overhyping something is by definition telling them they are wrong.

You not liking it is as valid as 3Dude loving it, so how can you say someone really enjoying it is 'overhyping' it?

there is no point in looking through rose tinted glasses all the time, though.

it seems that on here every game that come out on the WiiU is either the game that will save the WiiU or it's a game worth buying a WiiU for, there is no game worth buying a £200-300 console for.

nintendo promised so much with the WiiU & have simply not delivered.

my WiiU is not worth selling because nobody wants to buy them, when i have mentioned selling it to people i know they have said they either have a Wii, i tell them that it's a WiiU i have & they says whats the difference ?

No game worth buying the console for, yet you bought it? Funny.

I bought mine for Pikmin 3, and Rayman Legends. Pikmin 3 has already made it worth it.

You can sell on eBay you know.

What about all the exclusives & third party games that won't be on the WiiU ?
There is no support for the WiiU & nobody seems to think it will improve.

Then buy those systems if you want to play those games.

As 3Dude said previously, there was a time when not all systems had exactly the same games.

I think the most ridiculous thing is that YOU bought the Wii U. No one forced you to. Why did you if you don't like anything on it? Why didn't you just get a PS4 instead?

He likes to complain about the Wii U (here and on Neogaf).

Oh I know, I just find it ridiculous. I understand wanting more games, but just constantly moaning on about everything gets old.

Either enjoy the Wii U or sell it and move on.

Got to be honest the frame rate is pretty slow on this. I just got the Wii U version in a sale, and it's a bit rough. It's probably ok if you are not used to the higher level graphics but it just looks slow. It's not so much slow down as I don't see it ever running smoothly, it just looks consistently slow. Not unplayable though.

Also the shadows are shockingly bad, and make it look worse than it would otherwise I think. When it's still it looks fantastic, but throw in awful shadows and slow frame rate and it doesn't look that good.

It certainly doesn't look like they prioritised performance at all after what they said about it.

Yeah it does appear that third party sales are worse this year then they were last year. AC IV and Ghosts have sold significantly less copies than their predecessors.

This is what it seemed like to me. It's a real shame for everyone that wanted to just own a Wii U. I would definitely have gone Wii U only if there was a decent number of good ports.

I'm pretty gutted things have gone so wrong for the system cos I think it's great. I wasn't anywhere near as into games last year before I got one.

Interestingly I got to the sailing section with all the weather effects and it looked really impressive. There was no slow down but the water and rain looked great.

It also looks a much better game in darker settings where the terrible shadows don't ruin everything quite as much.

It is slow. It runs at about half the frame rate of most other wii u games (or wii games... or nintendo games in general...) like pretty much every multiplat ps360 game I have. But we are specifically talking about dramatic performance slowdowns, like shown in the video... The likes of which ive never encountered so bad.

All ubisoft wii u games except zombi u have horribad shadows, as the wii u is basically emulating a 360 in their ports, whose code was designed to use only a meager 10Mb of edram, and use main mem for everything else, and thus take horrible samples whilst wii u has over 3x that on die... Anyways, we all know ubisoft didnt waste time or manpower on wii u ports, they simply give the system 360 code and let it trudge through unoptimized code.

What they did do, was add things like vsync, slightly higher res textures, and slightly better effects over ps360 versions. They didnt attempt to opimize performance in the slightest upon release, although they did patch it after release, which helped a little bit. Did your version get the patch yet?

Yes I got the patch, so not sure if it's worse before. As I said I'm not seeing slow down as in its running fine and then dropping, it's just consistently low. And not unplayably bad, just a little annoying, kind of like Lego Marvel in co-op...

Also some have said it's just Havanna so it could be better once I'm out of that area.

It's at least more consistent than AC3 was.

I can see a difference but nothing too great. I think I'll be pretty happy with the Wii U version.

I can definitely see a difference between Wii U and 360 as well which is good to see.

Nope i shouldnt have to go out and spend another 400 dollars for a game experience... That is on Nintendo hands.... they are doing this to a certain degree.

In an ideal world you wouldn't have to but unfortunately you do. Or you could have just gone with PS4 from the start.

Yeah actually i am equally excited about Nba2k series as any other games released as the quality and basketball simulation is unmatched best sport simulation available.... but guess what i cant play that on my Wii U because nintendo only focuses on japanese and you guys are backing their decision. Do you know how popular sports are in america? you cant judge me for that

I'm not judging you, I'm simply saying perhaps you would have been happier with another console. All I see you comment on here is how we need shooters, sports games, and graphics. There's nothing wrong with this I'm just saying that you can actually get all these things on an Xbox.

I understand you, I wish we were getting more work done in third party titles, and getting games like the Crew, and NFS Rivals. But the Wii U can handle the games, the devs choose not to. The Wii U could be xbone powerful 50mil units, and it would still be in a sucky situation even if Nintendo payed out.

Lol why would you want that? Ninty still has the better games.

I agree hence me owning a Wii U

No sir never brought any console other than Nintendo. It is what it is. I am working on building a pc just for nba 2k series.

That's sounds like a good plan based on your other comments then.

I think generally ninty fans enjoy more japanese games than western games. So imo ninty should focus on securing japanese games rather than looking into more western style games.

Yeah exactly. If you are more excited for Madden or Fifa than Bravely Default then perhaps you have the wrong console.

I have Bravely Default and it's great so far.

Also I will say this about the direct. They showed DK, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros. That's 3 very high quality games. And we kind of expect to hear more about next year still.

If Wii U got the same multiplatform stuff as the other consoles there wouldn't even be a question of what Nintendo is bringing.

That is the thing. Short term, you can generate an ROI by dumping a small investment into these games and putting them out there. Long term, the core audience will be somewhere else. Meanwhile, Nintendo's audience, which may not be exactly the same as the other platforms', is not growing in the way of interest for your products (forget about the quality of the product and look at the lack of advertising as a prime example).

My overall business philosophy coincides with common sense-do not waste resources unless you intend for something of value to occur.

With the Wii U, these third parties put their stuff out there at launch, and then gave up. Almost as if they expected an overnight turnaround for these genres on the platform. I am not sure Nintendo did their best to work with third parties, but the initial effort, from the outset, would have been a long term investment for publishers.

This line of reasoning is why their overall about face makes so little sense to me, and why we have 5 man port teams in the first place.

Yeah absolutely right in my opinion.

I mean how ridiculous of EA to think they can put out 2 half arsed sports titles, the 3rd game in a trilogy, and a 5 month late racing game and expected those to have sold well.

To me if 3rd parties had put in real effort as promised I think the games and the system would be selling much better, and ultimately would have given these companies more opportunities to sell games.

The more consoles out there, the more people there are to buy your product.

The point is Nintendo was trying trying to build it cheap as possible but charging a premium price. They could have build a better box with less profit margin. But they cared not for the blight of the workingman.

All they care about is making just good enough Run the games they make and not worrying about what outside developers wanted. Sony did care and they will rock this gen.

This is nonsense, since a load of developers came out saying how great the Wii U was. Also with Wii U still selling at a loss how can that nonsense about profit be true?

Truth is the 3rd party situation is still down the lack of sales. If we all go crazy for Watch Dogs then Ubisoft will put a lot of effort into future Wii U games.

IM SORRY BUT THE AGUMENT GET ANOTHER CONSOLE IS SO """"""""""""FANBOY"""""""" ITS TEAR DOWN CHEEK SADDENING...

if i buy a ps4 what does this eqate

il answer because i doubt you know

IM SUPPORTING A INDUSTRY THAT FRANKLY NEEDS TO DIE AND DIE FAST

i will not back a dualshock fps in a Wii remote world THAT IS A ACT OF silly ponyATION

get a ps4 for fifa why buy nintendo or buy another console

EXCUSE ME

i buy a ps4 then ea the evil continues to give me ps1 controls and out dated dumbed down games and gamepaly and mechanics

IF I BUY WIIU AND """""""""""""""22DEMAND GAME DEVS SUPPORT IT CURRECTLY AND TRUTHFULLY"""""""

I GET A WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF FIFA GAMEPAD AS MANAGMENT TACTICS SCREEN AND WII REMOTE AND NUNCHUCK AS A RTS /TRADITIONAL CONTROL SET UP

PRESTO IV INVESTED IN >>>>>>NEXT GENERATION GAMING AND THRU THE ACT OF PURPHOSING A WIIU<<<<<<<<<<<< ENCURRAGED CREATIVITY FORWARD THINKING NEW WAYS TO PLAY


LOL AT XBONE AND PS4 THERE IRELEVENT TO A REAL GAMER

Classic.

They were actually saying on this weeks Weekend Confirmed podcast that this gen has been the best one ever.

Given that the variety of games has narrowed hugely over the last 7 years I don't see how you can make that claim.

Lol more nonsense from you. Why do you still bother to post such rubbish all the time?

Talk about 'denial of reality'....

That's the best way to be really. Personally I have already seen stuff that was better than last gen in Pikmin 3 and W101, so I'm happy.

True there looks to be more detail in the games on the new consoles, but I don't feel like my Wii U is lacking too much like the Wii was.

I'd always like better graphics of course but what can you do.

I just don't understand what the constant obsession is about graphics on this forum. I think the Wii U is what it is. It produces nice graphics. Yes not to the high level of something like Ryse, but to me Mario, Zelda, and Pikmin are all stunning looking games. Mario Kart and Bayonetta look great too.

I agree we have to wait and see some of the titles. MK looks amazing. I think the thing that holds Nintendo back( not really their fault well kinda) they dont have a game that competes with xb1/ps4. Like most people brush their games off because they say they dont push the limit. Big hugh detailed worlds, lots of enemies, high detailed textures..... Nintendo does gameplay forst which i commend but they need to make sure they have some graphical hitters so as Iwata put it "people wont think the Wii U is underpowered"... which he doesnt understand why they think that. HA!

You say you don't really care about graphics but you go on about them all the time. I think they matter a lot more to you than you think.

As far as I know delay Wii U Rayman to release Xbox 360 and PS3 versions, yet not do the same with Watch Dogs and just delaying the Wii U version.