I haven't played V so I didn't know about that . Do you know any good scenes from III?

You've actually touched on a point that I've been thinking about myself, something we'll have to keep in mind while producing the montage videos. Since you haven't played Final Fantasy V yet, that's something to consider. We'll want to show key moments, but at the same time, we don't want to give spoilers (at least, not major spoilers for the plot).

I think you guys here have already given some good examples so far. Like, if we showed a scene of Tidus and Yuna getting ready to kiss, it'd make people who played the game say, "Yeah, I remember that moment!" and newcomers say, "Hey, I wonder what that's about?" Similarly, we could show some of the battle scene against Gilgamesh for FFV, but don't show the end result. It's enough to pique people's interest to relive it or to experience it for the first time, all in HD glory.

We'll want to produce strong nostalgia factor for those who have played, and yet not give the biggest parts of the games' plots away to interest those who never played some of these games. It's a tricky balance to strike, but I think we all can do it.

So we'll try to show you bits of Final Fantasy V in the montages, but won't give it away. Similarly, we'll try to include bit of Final Fantasy III, like maybe the opening for the DS version, that'll make you want to play the game in HD!

And also keep in mind which parts of the scenes you want to show, as since these two videos will be montages, we can only show brief moments of the scenes. Again, a bit tricky, but we're awesome!

Good suggestions so far, you guys! Keep them coming!

I'm gonna see if I can get some video game YouTubers to mention Operation Moogle in their videos. I'll update you on progress as it progresses.

Good! That'll help a bunch! Thanks!

Sent a message to NintendoCapriSun, I don't think he will do it, but we can only hope :/

EDIT
Just noticed we have about 161 votes on the official site, 13 votes on Wii U forums and 32 likes on facebook and 72 views on our youtube channel!
I think it's something to feel proud of so let's do some math
161+72+31+13= 277!
were getting noticed people!

Yep! We're getting noticed! I think as soon as we can get people on YouTube to mention us and get more people in other forums to notice us (esp. with our nice signature images). Perhaps if I can find a clever enough way to sneak some news of Operation Moogle into my other non-gaming-related forums, like BlenderNation and BlenderArtists.org, we'll gain even more attention!

I'm working on compositing just a few 3D elements into the videos, like maybe a 3D version of our logo, and then editing the videos using Blender's built-in compositor. That should be enough to have BlenderNation do an article on this usage of Blender to get the job done--and get news out to thousands of people about Operation Moogle. Mwahahahahaaa!

Sorry about my FF5 fan-ism. It was fun, but challenging at times (especially getting all non-necromancer jobs mastered and beating Omega and Shinryu). I don't know video editing at all, but I can help find videos. I'll have to PM you about certain questions I have about videos. I still need to learn about legality....

Anyways, here is the FF3 opening video (I just found it, so I take no credit in making):

Spoiler

Should I just post them on the forum from now on or should I just PM them? If the latter, then to whom (or who [not sure about the grammar here])?

You can do either. You can post them here. If you want to PM them to me for editing the montage, you can. Or if you guys want to work together on something, go for it! It doesn't matter.

Since right now, we're just trying to find and collect reference to snag snippets away from for the montage videos (I haven't began any editing yet), posting them here is fine. When we get to some actual editing, then I guess that's when I (and any other contributing member with a video editor) will take the footage and suggestions from you guys about what to include in the videos for editing purposes, and we can take them from this thread. So I guess the best place is probably just right here, as you've been doing. But again, it's totally up to you.

As for the legal thing, for most YouTube videos, we can avoid issues for most videos with some kind of credits at the end of the videos. We're not using the videos for commercial usage, and similar to how DBZ Abridged episodes are able to parody Dragon Ball Z by offering the videos for free viewing purposes and giving due credits, we're good!

On the off-change that we do find someone specifically asking for permission before using their uploaded content, we can do that. I'm sure most of them will be willing to support this effort, especially if they're fans, too.

How can I get one of those "nice signature images" into my signature? I tried copying the image and pasting it into my signature, but it wouldn't show up.

Go back to the Edit Signature page (you reach that by first going to your Profile page, and then hitting the Edit my Profile button at the top right side of your Profile, and then look for Edit Signature on the left side). At the Edit Signature page, go over to the toolbar where you see the options like bold and italics and underline, go over in the line and click on the picture icon (it's two icons over to the right of the smiley face).

You have to reference a picture saved online somewhere, and copy its link address into the "Image URL" prompt. You can just use this Operation Moogle signature image link for now, to test it out.

Enter the link to your signature image there and hit Insert Image. You'll see the link show up in the signature editing box below, placed between two image HTML tags. You can also just type in those two tags around your copied-and-pasted link in the signature editing box. Hit "Save Changes" and when the page is refreshed, you should see it.

You can add, as many images as you want, images up to 600 x 200 pixels. Hope that helps!

Hey, I'd like to be co-administrator if you want. Anyway, can't wait for those videos, I really want to see them. Because they will definitely will be better than the two I uploaded, one of them is opening for FF1, surprisingly that one has like 30 views and I added important links in the description, the other one is just an edited ff vs 13 trailer with effects and a few images for people to download.

Sure, dude, you can be a co-administrator of the Facebook page! If you've already "Liked" the Facebook page, then you can message me here in this forum about which one of the names of supporters is yours, so that I can click the "Make Admin" button next to your name. And then you'll be a co-administrator! This goes for anyone else here who'd like to be a co-admin!

And to everyone, I'm in the process of collecting scenes for the two montage videos. So, hey folks, if you have any favorites, scenes that you'd think would be inspiring for Final Fantasy fans of either the light-tone variety or the darker-tone variety, just tell me or show me! And if you have any little Operation Moogle videos of your own.

I like your videos, by the way, Blade! I esp. like the concept of showing scenes of the classic games and then asking the question, "Wanna play this in HD?" It helps drive home the reality of having a game with both old and new Final Fantasy games on it!

Also, I'm updating the blog site, so anybody with signature images and wallpapers, just send them to me, and I'll post them. And just for fun, I'm thinking about putting a Fan Art page on the blog site, to encourage a little fun and some more interactivity with the site. After blowing the dust off my deviantART account and checking out Final Fantasy fan art, I've seen a LOT of fan art, and I'm thinking that offering a little spot of glory for them might encourage more revisits to and more activity with the site. What do you think about that? Think that's a good idea?

Hey, guys! Thanks for starting those threads on the other sites! Not only are you spreading the word of Operation Moogle more, but you're also getting more people to join this forum as well to do the petition. I've promoted the idea that this forum will be one they'll definitely want to be, as we near closer to Wii U's debut, but also that we're pretty chilled people here (because we are)!

We're growing in numbers with the Facebook page the most, with 24 people who Like the page (in addition to myself). The Twitter page is gradually picking up more Followers, with 11 so far (but one of them being a high-level Square Enix employee!). And so far the Petition has 10 signatures (though we have 12 voters... o_0).

But we should expect more signatures and public support--just give it time. So far, we've gotten 267 views of our Facebook fan page and 360 hits of the blog site, with 58 voters casting votes on site's poll. Not bad for only 3 days work! That's encouraging! We're growing!

So yeah, keep at it! This is to be expected, actually. More "Like button" supporters than petitioners, but still, even the "Likes" help get the word out, and it still shows support for this cause that Square Enix can consider. We'll get those petitions and poll numbers up--ESPECIALLY when we get those videos done to get people inspired for just what we're looking at with such a Final Fantasy HD collection and how much their voice can make this thing real!

And though using a forum for a petition is not the usual route for petitions, I think it's proving to be a very good choice. It's just way easier to use a forum site to host petitions. It's the best free option around. Easy to join and participate, easy to manage, and just a heck of a lot funner a place to host a game-related petition than a "free petition" site. Plus, as I explained to folks on Facebook, this effort help ensures we ALL get this game!

So keep on promoting Operation Moogle, and good work so far! Whether by Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, the blog site, or this forum site, we'll succeed with time!

Right now, I'm working finalizing some concepts for the videos, and then I'll share them with you guys for your feedback. These videos will be epic...at least, that's the plan!

Also, if anyone wants to be a co-administrator of the Facebook page, just let me know!

Anyways, I'll be back Friday (gotta go somewhere tomorrow), so take care! Thank for helping sending Operation Moogle off to a good start!

I've created a new subforum for this, and moved both topics into it. The petition/poll thread looks great.


Which blog? MacroManJr's, David's, or mine? There are three great reasons to use Wii U Forums instead: 1) they're a neutral zone between the two Wii U blogs associated with them; 2) having the petition and poll in the form of a thread is neat and tidy; and 3) it's a fabulous way to promote this community, as there's a good chance that some of the people who register to sign the petition will stick around for the Wii U discussions.

Thanks a million for creating a subforum for Operation Moogle! That's really going to help us a lot! And thank you for liking the petition/poll thread!

Also, to what you said about using this forum, those are actually some of the good reasons I listed on the blog site!

Hey Macro, just wondering here, do you have any of the videos ready? Because I just got a Dropbox and wanted to see how it works xD

Nope, not yet. I'm just in concept stage at the moment. Should have something to share in a day or so, though. But if you wanna test out Dropbox, you can place any Operation Moogle signature images there and place the public links to those signatures (in a public Dropbox folder) on your Facebook, Twitter, whatever. Of course, this is just an excuse to use Dropbox (I like such excuses), but it could be a neat way to promote Operation Moogle while you're at it!

Shouldn't this be in the Blog instead of this forum? That way, everyone can sign the petition, not just Wii U members.

Actually, that would be kinda difficult to do. Those free WordPress pages are blog sites, and they operate a little differently behind the scenes than a normal website (which are typically managed from scratch or using WordPress a more by-hand way). Also, integration of a petition with the site is not simple (not for free, anyways).

Yeah, I could've used one of those sites claiming to offer "free petition," but those are kinda a pain. They want a home address from you, our e-mail addresses, a limited signature goal, tons of ads everywhere, blah blah blah. Those "free petition" sites are free to begin with because they collect and reserve your personal info to sell it to email-based advertisers (spammers), as they reserve that right to do so in their terms of agreement.

So yeah, it's just a lot easier than dealing with a forum where you can have as no limit of signatures, you can just leave your name (or alias) as a signature, you can take the poll and then just leave a post with your name (or alias) as a signature, and you can participate with the discussion thread.

All you need is an e-mail address and an name (doesn't even have to be your real name!) to start an profile here, and you're ready for business! Conversely, you can be as creative as you want with your support for Operation Moogle, with forum signature images and suggestions to us.

Though, after I made the petition/poll, I did at least place a copy of the poll there on the blog site. I realized that once you vote for in the poll with the petition, you can't vote again. So if there were any games in the list you forgot, you can cast a vote them here. So there's two places for the poll.

I also put on the site an encouraging word for joining this forum site. I did inform folks that though this is a Wii U forum site and Wii U is our general talk, there is a section here where we do talk about other game consoles, too. And we don't HATE the other consoles (many of us OWN other consoles)--we just love the Wii U a lot, that's all!

And really, a lot of people out there haven't really been following the news about the Wii U too much since E3, so I think when they see some of the things we're talking about with Wii U, that may create an interest in Wii U as well.

By using this forum, we make emphatically clear that we don't want the Wii U to get left out of consideration for this compilation! PS3, Xbox 360, and PC will surely get such the HD collection, so we're not concerned about whether a release would come to them. We want this game on ALL the HD gaming platforms, including the Wii U.

I hope this wasn't too long! But yeah, there are several reasons why I chose on a forum site for this campaign. Plus, Feld0 kindly gave us our own spot here and a shout-out! Can't beat that!

Glad to help!! Just tell me what to do, and I will help as much as I can (except for Twitter and creating videos [though getting supplies I can help with, though])! I can't wait to play this on the Wii U!!

Also, I hope things get better for you. It is pretty rough losing people that you know (and for people who you know to lose people that they know and love).

About the apartment, did they lie to you (if so, then to them) or was it a misunderstanding (if so, then still to them)? Well, apartments in New York are pretty expensive anyways, so maybe you might find someplace that costs less. Stuff in New York is generally expensive anyways. I hope you find a place to live!

Do you need audio for the FF Videos? I do have all of FFV and FFVI's music, so let me know.

One thing though: I wont be available on Friday because I'll be on a trip to Pennsylvania. Also, I posted on my Facebook page (which is on Day 2 of being alive [yes, I am that slow in joining in the social media ]) a thing that tries to get as many people to come as they can. And yes, I am the guy who says "Please put V on there too!! By the way, I'm also known as "The One Who Wrote This"" on post #4 on the Operation Moogle Facebook page (the one about having a remaster of FFVII being #1). I have the Black Knight from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn as my image (no good images of myself). As long as there are good games on the collection (and/or ones I've never played [basically anything above 5 [excluding Renevant wings and some of the spin-offs]) and that it comes onto the Wii U, I'll be fine (though FFV deserves a remake either on the 3ds or the Wii U)!

Anyways, let me know how I can help, and I hopefully will be able to.

Thanks a lot for your fervent support, dude! You and Blade and all of you guys here really carry this thing! Have a good trip to Pennsylvania--maybe I'll bump into you over here! And I'll take whatever clips you'll throw at me.

Just to give you guys an update, I'm working on a little special something to add to the videos. To make these videos even more interesting, I'm adding some custom 3D animation to the end of the videos.

Primarily, I plan to render a small scene at the end of the video compilation that takes some of the characters from the most popular Final Fantasy games, and have them act out a short little melee fight scene against their main bosses of their respective games, and then end in the scene with the protagonists together looking admirably at an Operation Moogle logo, finally ending the compilations with, "Please help make this Final Fantasy HD collection a final reality!" It'd be about 30 to 45 seconds long, give or take.

This will not only get the attention of people to look at our videos and our cause, and hopefully get the imagination going in other people of just what we're looking at with this compilation, but also would undoubtedly get our video some notice on a few 3D sites I'm a regular contributor to. There's some sites just waiting to show people's 3D work, and I can mention word of this work in the videos on my personal blog sites, which gets quite a few repeat visitors a day (checking to see if I updated my stupid blogs--I'm so bad at keeping them!).

Plus, I just REALLY want an excuse to do this! I think it'd add a little more boost to our energy, and perhaps serve as an example of something we could do again. I'd like to hear more ideas for little animations. I think using the original content of the Final Fantasy videos you guys are posting up and mixing a little original content of our own might spice things up a bit. Just a little something to shake the imagination even more about this collection! I'll be posting up a few screen shots at what I'm working on so far in just a little while.

Sure, TheOneWhoWroteThis, you can post the links here on the forum or PM them to me--either way's fine!

And just to take bring some more notice to a good idea, if you guys got any ideas for the design of the Operation Moogle YouTube Channel, be sure to leave them at the thread that Blade started dedicated to this topic. You can leave your designs there so that there can be a little something more interesting for the channel. We'll need something to match what I expect to be some neat videos to endorse our cause! We've got to spark the imagination of Final Fantasy fans everywhere, so get the creative juices flowing and throw your creative ideas out there!

By the way, here are a few screenshots of the early concepts for the 3D animation. These are early and will look a lot better once they've been textured, scaled for the characters, shot with cameras, etc.:

This is a concept design for the "Operation Moogle" font in the animation. It's still early, so nothing's final yet. The final design chosen will look better incorporated within the actual scene.

This is what the desert-like landscape looks like in early production. It doesn't look much like a landscape yet, but it will.

Another shot of the landscape. It's basically just a plane that I sculpted with a texture brush, for any of you guys interested in the process.

Here's a camera shot of that landscape. Again, this is an early shot. It'll look even better with textures and proper lighting and blowing dust and trees and everything. Most of all, it'll look epic with the characters in the fight scene, with dynamic camera shots and physical interactions with the landscape and stuff! Check out this Final Fantasy wiki page and you'll see a bit of where I'm aiming with this.


Anyways, it ain't much to look at in this early stage of production, but I hope you guys like it so far. Let me know if you like the font or it there's another style you'd like to see. I tried to match the "Operation Moogle" font on our official signature image. But whatever gets chosen, it'll look a lot better in the final composition. And as always, your feedback is appreciated!

I'll be trying to cover a lot of ground on developing it daily to finish ASAP. I'm charged with zeal to do this. I'll be trying to post something new daily or every other day!

Just an update: We're up and running for the summer, and already picking up where we left off with our Operation Moogle animation. Expect awesomeness.

http://wp.me/p1FZfF-4G

Glad you guys like being new Admins on the Facebook page.

It's really simple to be, really.  Whenever you have an announcement or bit of news to share about Operation Moogle, something to say to encourage people who joined the page, and something that people on the page might like to hear (like news about similar efforts as ours, like Operation Moonfall, Operation Rainfall, and the Mega Man Legends 3 petition), just post them up!

You can now do this without having to go through me or anything like that.  And the invitation is open to anyone else on our Facebook page who'd like to be an Administrator on our Facebook page--and our official blog site, too, for that matter.  

Thanks, zxride64 and TheOneWhoWroteThis, for your good wishes to me in finding a new place soon.  Also, I'm glad you enjoyed your trip and thanks for your feedback on the video, TheOneWhoWroteThis!  Those tracks will definitely help!  You guys are great!

How is the twitter and facebook going?

Yikes, it's been a while, but I just updated them now!  Thanks for asking!

Okay, guys, I'm back from a busy round of trying to find a new apartment and some other stuff.  Unfortunately, I lost yet another apartment (this is crazy), so I'm taking a break from it and getting back to this.  I've got to find a new place by the end of this month, but I'm letting my sister help me find a place.  I've also got to look for a new car.  It's crazy--I actually have the money available, but can't seem to find jack in the nick of time!  Oh well, something will come up soon, I'm sure.

In the meanwhile, I haven't gotten very much done on the video, but I did get two things done.  I rendered a basic test animation of a power-up special effect, and I'm currently working on more particles system test animation now, which will be the sparkly and glowing magic stuff with some of the characters' attacks (you know the glowing special effects you see with special attacks and whatnot).

Here's a link to it:

special effect test render 01

And also, I just got a new addon for Blender called Bsurfaces which will increase my productivity like threefold (especially with the characters).  I was having a difficult time with retopology of the faces taking too long and being kinda a pain to deal with (for those who are familiar with the modeling process), but this new premium Add-on for Blender is big help.  I'm also working on some schematic drawings for the weapons to base the 3D modeling on.

Anyways, I'm getting back on track with the animation portion of the montage videos.  I think we'll definitely need a flashy video, because though we're still getting votes and visits to the Operation Moogle sites, it's a gradual one.  Seems like every other "Operation" out there gets more notice than ours do--and we're the one effort that was actually specifically asked for by a game company!

Operation Rainfall, Operation Moonfall, and "100,000 Strong for Bringing Back Mega Man Legends 3" have all gotten wide attention, and I think our videos will get us similar attention (if not a little more).  By the way, I personally support those efforts myself (and hope you do, too).

If you've got any ideas for videos, try them out, work on them!  We'll make as many unique videos for our cause as we can!  It doesn't have to be a flashy 3D animation--a simple little montage or skit or something like that can work.  Operation Rainfall are using some funny skits to get more attention--and it's working, with over 14,000 views of their uploaded videos.

I think if we go the extra mile in creating some creative, catchy and inspiring videos for our cause--and emphasize the fact that Square Enix actually asked for this effort, and that enough support for this cause would pretty much make this HD collection a sure thing--I think we can gain similar heavy support like our other "Operation" efforts have gained.

Any kind of support here is welcomed for Operation Moogle, however big or small.  Customized signature images, wallpapers, videos, fan art--they'll be posted on our blog site.  And anything you can do to encourage more signatures in our petitions, votes in our Poll, and even simple Likes to our Facebook fan page and Followings us on Twitter (both of which I'll update in a little while), you're help is never too small.

Anyways, sorry for the absence!  Glad to be back!

Wow man, that looks GREAT! Keep it up!


Also, sorry I can't be of much help other than the Youtube channel, but I been kinda busy lately, so sorry
But, I'm thinking of new ways to promote, but I don't know yet.
Sorry.

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No need to apologize, dude! If anything, I completely understand! And your help with the YouTube channel is a big help! We'll be using that channel as a big part of promoting this cause! Whatever more you add to it would just be bonus, because you've already started a big helping factor for Operation Moogle! You did and are doing a great job!

I've been quite occupied myself besides this endeavor. It's okay--we'll just take our time and ideas will eventually come for the YouTube channel and whatever else, all in gradual time. There's no sense of obligation or urgency here or anything. Take your time and relax. In fact, that's my advice to all of you.

We'll probably have this thing going for a while, and as long as Square Enix is still wanting a voice, we'll keep this open and just develop it gradually, so there's no kind of rush or obligation here. In fact, I've been taking it easy myself this last week. A lot of things in life just come up, but this continues to be something I want to do.

I've got to find a new apartment soon and be completely moved before September, I've got a few projects I need to gain some ground on, and unfortunately, there was a crime committed right outside my apartment building last night (it's on the local news and everything). This makes me want to move out of this place even sooner. It's not really a bad place to live around here, but it's just that I live near Philadelphia, and we get some of the crimes moving from rough city towards out here in rural places. But no worries--I'll be moved to a much better place soon, hopefully (if I can just find a stankin' available apartment first! Hahaha!).

But yeah, guys, just take this Operation Moogle effort with relaxation. There's no timeline, really. We're just trying to gradually gain more people's attentions, and Operation Moogle will likely be here for quite a while. Whatever ideas and efforts you can contribute, do it at your own pace, without busting your brains over it, and without costing time away from other areas in your lives or anything. And be sure to enjoy your summer! Savor the summer!

I thank you guys a lot for what you have and do contribute to this cause! We've got some cool people here (this is probably my favorite forum site), and there's a reason why this thread's gotten over 3,300 views so far (which is almost 5 times as many views as our blog site)--you guys all help keep it interesting! I know that as we gradually build Operation Moogle, we'll get that strong voice that Square Enix wants, and we'll get our Final Fantasy HD collection yet! Keep up the good work...gradually!


{As an update on the animation, I'm modeling the characters, which are the most complex things to develop in the animation. I've got some vegetation in the works. And I'm working on creating a decent enough dust to blow in the wind. I'm taking snapshots along the way.}

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Tutorial videos posted on BlenderNation, reading wiki guides online, a lot of playing around with features, and practice (which is really just more playing around). Once you learn Blender's interface, it's actually one of the fastest 3D modelers out there, both to learn and to use. Actually, one of the things I've been slacking off on is a few videos showing how to use some of Blender's neatest features. People who read my work blog are still waiting for it. I'll get to it, especially since a lot of people lately have been asking me how I use Blender. The secret with Blender is learning its intuitive keyboard shortcuts--makes using Blender a breeze.

I want to be a part of this petition. I played FF XIII and loved it, now i want to get the other games and this would be the easiest way for me to get the games.

Glad you want to be a part of Operation Moogle! Every bit of Final Fantasy-lovin' fan support helps! And yeah, this would be the easiest way to play other games that some have yet to play!

There are several games on that list that most people outside Japan (or without a handheld like Nintendo DS or Sony PSP) didn't get to play. Some Nintendo gamers just didn't get to play ANY of the more recent titles.

And I was sure to include an enhanced version of Final Fantasy VII as a vote (along with the selection option for the original for the purists among Final Fantasy VII fans), since Square Enix did get our hopes up for a couple years ago for a remake of FFVII, but haven't done so yet.

So yeah, this compilation would satisfy a lot of people as an easy way to play these games--and all in HD glory.

Hey, if you haven't already, be sure you do get your say in the Polls and leave a short message to Square Enix with your reply signature in the Petition. You can find it here.

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I made my own version of the sig with the background I made.

That's the spirit, MLdragoMaster and GunGoomba! Wear those in all the forums you're a part of! I can post those on the Operation Moogle blog site, if you'd like!

Hey! How do I join or... well whatever?? This is a great idea and I love FF!! (This is the reason I joined the forum xD)

Working on the thread where the Petition and Poll will take place right now. Such be up and running pretty soon (I'm talking within 10 minutes or so). And then I'll direct you to that thread. All the instructions will be there for your easy participation.

And thanks for your support for Operation Moogle and for joining the forum! We're a chilled bunch of folks!

Well I made a signature for operation moogle if you want to start using it. You can suggest anything to change to make it better. http://i53.tinypic.com/sy7d54.jpg

Personally, I definitely really like the concept of this signature, showing the several key faces that most of us will want to see included in this compilation. Seeing those faces TOGETHER will definitely encourage a lot of people to want push this thing to becoming a reality. I've been looking into some of the bundles and compilations that Square Enix has compiled over the years, and one thing I've noticed is that they tended to stick with make compilations based on sequels and prequels.

But to my knowledge, I've never seen a compilation that included Tidus, Zidane Tribal, Cecil Harvey, AND Cloud Strife on the face of it. Having an image that promotes that possibility a great idea. THAT would get any Final Fantasy fan to step up (and also generate more interest in Wii U...). By having people visit this forum, this will generation support for the Wii U, and that's only good for the Wii U!

Maybe if this petition draws enough interest, Nintendo won't be so inclined to meet it with disinterest like they did with Operation Rainfall. The Last Story was more a gamble for localization (I suppose)--but a (possible) Final Fantasy HD Compilation of this magnitude is a sure console seller. By the time this compilation would come out, the Wii U should be out by then. With Nintendo wanting to regain the core gamer, I think they'll have to pay notice to this. And one good image like this one can help inspire all that!

If I may make some suggestions about improving it even more, I would like to suggest placing something in the background, as it's a little bare. At least, for a Final Fantasy signature, anyways. What if you were to try placing one of the famous Yorainbowaka Amano illustrations faintly appearing behind the text, similar to how it's done here:

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/156492-ff.jpg

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1055/243063-7eceed3119710ad5ddee939e2610cfac20080630175407_super.jpg

That way, we keep the attention on those famous faces of Final Fantasy, and yet we keep that classic Final Fantasy atmosphere about the image overall. Other than this, this is the only suggestions I personally have to offer. (Oh, and of course, keep the Moogle!) Good job with this contribution!

Alright, I was thinking a little introduction video explaining the situation that you can link people that are interested in the Project so they know what the goal exactly is and all. Don't worry I can upload videos but if you want to be able to manage the account I can send you a message with the username and password.

You can manage it, if you'd like! It's OUR project, after all. Yeah, the little introduction video sounds like a plan. I think as soon as we can get a little more information to introduce, like getting a general "OKAY" with the poll's games listing, starting a Facebook page and a Twitter page, and the thread is open for petitions (which I'm working on as we speak), we'll know where we can direct people's attentions.

Okay, guys--I've got a basic set-up for the blog site. Here's the link to the site:

http://operationmoogle.wordpress.com/

It's still in development and I'm sprucing this up more, so keep that in mind and, please, give me your feedback! Right now, I'm just putting the pieces together, but I'll organize it better (particularly the header bar), and again, I'm open to your suggestions.

Also, here is the Facebook fan page:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Operation-Moogle/186327878091343

And here is the Twitter page:

http://twitter.com/#!/OperationMoogle

Also, I'm making FroggyForce's signature available for download on the site, as part of the Promote This page on the site.

In fact, I was thinking that maybe we could have several signatures available, though I personally like FroggyForce's signature as our de facto main signature. That way, folks can choose among a variety of signatures (people like that kind of thing). What do you guys think?

And since I've got a LOT of time off work to do this, I'll be spending much of my time working on this blog site. (I like any excuse to spend all day making something!) So yeah, check it out so far, bookmark it, come up with ideas for it, let me know how you like it so far.

I'll be in my lab all day long working on this, and I'll stay online here so you can contact me and stuff. This is coming together pretty quickly. I think we might can even get this petition thread started today!

Okay, guys, here's the list of FF games I have compiled for the poll thus far:

Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy III (Nintendo DS remake)
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy IV (Nintendo DS remake)
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII (original in HD)
Final Fantasy VII (an enhanced remake)
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIV

Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII
Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII

Final Fantasy Tactics (Original version)
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (Enhanced remake of the original)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift

Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light


I can see now there are many games there that some Nintendo gamers have never played, and that many fans would probably want ALL of these in the compilation, and we would just vote for them all if we could. But more realistically, getting all these into a compilation is very unlikely. So it seems to me that we have to remain reasonable with our votes. I'm thinking about having each voter being able to choose up to about seven choices or so. And then that way, if Square Enix sees the poll, they'll see what were among our top choices for considerations for the compilation, and however many of those choices they choose to include in a compilation, at least they'd choose the top ones. What do you guys think?

And if I've missed any vital titles you'd like me to add to this list, please let me know. I did leave out several smaller titles released for mobile phones and focused on the meatier titles for consoles and handhelds.

Also, since I think most people are petitioning for more the main Final Fantasy series and those games related to the main series, I left out the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series so far. I'm thinking since we really have one shot to speak up for some of those titles in the compilation for Wii U that have never even been with a Nintendo console before, maybe the focus should be on those game closer to the main series rather than complete off-shoots like Crystal Chronicles. But I did try to include as many of the remakes of the main Final Fantasy series and main series-related Final Fantasy games as I could find.

But again, if there's any game I left out that you think is a good consideration for being on this list, let me know! I haven't made the poll yet, so give me feedback on this!

Our names aren't Goomba and Yoshi - they're The One Who Wrote This and Feld0. You were looking at the forum ranks, not the usernames.

What I was thinking was that this thread would serve as the discussion thread for the whole project, and a separate thread (with the poll on it) could be used to collect signatures for the petition. The number of replies to the latter thread would be the number of signatures.

If you want to do that, feel free to create that petition thread anytime, and I'll sticky it.

FYI, by a "dedicated section," I meant a forum category for Operation Moogle (like the ones we have for the Wii U, General Gaming, Forum Games, and so on). I'll consider creating one if this campaign takes off.

By the way, as promised, here's your shoutout on Wii U Go.

You know what? I hashed those out so quickly, I didn't even pay any notice to that! Sorry about that! Wasn't paying attention. I'm going to blame it on sleep deprivation (been up for over a whole day now). Hahaha! But I DO you guys from the other sites, though. Guess I just grabbed the first names I saw.

And yes, I want to do that idea you suggested. That was the idea I was trying to describe there, about keeping this one a discussion thread and having another thread exclusively for the petitioning replies. I'll start that thread, post my signature, and somehow include a note that that thread is for replies for the petition only. I'll also make that poll for the games.

Thank you for the shoutout! That will help! Now, I've got to whip up that thread and poll!

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Hey, be sure to let me know when the link is out, you know, you got me hyped already xD
it's in my Signature now!

EDIT
I made a Youtube channel for Operation Moogle, if anyone wants to consider
it as the official channel, please let me know.
Channel.

Good on ya, Blade! We can so use that! Good thinking! I'll put that link in with the Operation Moogle info for sure! Now we can add YouTube video to our arsenal! Now, for a video...any ideas? I can contribute to making a little video (I've got video-editing software and image-editing software I can chip in with). Anybody else, feel free to chip in!

Hey, Goomba! Glad you're here! I started this thread to have a place where we could toss around ideas for the petition site. So even when we'll have the petition site going, we'll still have this thread going for it. You know, so that we can express ideas for the site and toss ideas out there on how to raise more attention to the cause and whatnot. I should have a basic site going pretty soon, so you'll be able to Bookmark it really soon.

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Hi, Yoshi! Thanks for the help! We'll take it! I knew we could do polls, but I didn't know we could really set up petition threads--that's a new one to me! I for one am definitely interested in that idea. Maybe what I'll do is make a webpage for "Operation Moogle" anyways, a simple little page where folks can visit that explains about what this is all about and perhaps feature a counter for how many people have signed, and then have the official petition be a link to this forum site.

I'm already thinking we could use that dedicated spot for replies as petitions you're offering, just to keep this thread solely a suggestion box. Maybe as soon as I can get a simple page going (shouldn't take me more than a day or two), and I notify you when the site is done, and then you can officially make the dedicated spot. That way, we can keep a count of replies from the start. How does that sound?

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Great idea, feeling a bit inspired by Operation Rainfall are we?

I suggest a facebook page and twitter, I would definitely join both of those (haven't set up facebook yet but will).

Also try and get as many websites as possible doing articles about it.

NOW we're cooking with gas! Great idea, Epic Kirby! I'll hop to it ASAP!

Okay, guys, check out these simple rules for the Petition Thread:

• At the least, in your replies, all you need is your name.  You can post a simple reply of your forum user name, your first name alone, your first name and last initial, or your first and last name.  It's up to you.
• You can leave a little message for Square Enix, but please, keep it short (25 words or less).
• No profanity--keep it clean, guys.
• Since you have an account here, you don't have to reveal your e-mail publically.
• Please do not post more than one reply in this Thread.
• Please save all comments, questions, and suggestions pertaining to Operation Moogle for the Operation Moogle suggestion thread.

Tell me what you think about these.  And though I'm trying to keep the rules at a minimum with these, am I missing anything important to specify?  Let me know!

Also, let me know if there's anyone about the list of games I mentioned earlier to include in our poll.  If these are okay, then I'll go ahead and start the Petition Thread, post these rules in the Petition Thread, and kick off the petition with the first reply.  

And finally, Feld0 and Ruthie, since you have some adminstrative experience with your news site and this forum, are either or both of you interested in being an co-Administrators for the Operation Moogle Facebook fan page?  Similarly, when I finish the official Operation Moogle blog site, my offer extends to that, too.

Rules look good. Remember to re-post them in the petition thread itself.

I thought I should let you know about the limits of polls here. A single poll on this forum can have 3 separate questions, each with up to 20 choices. Are those limits high enough for the poll you're going to run, or do they need to be raised?

Ruth isn't an admin, by the way. She's my assistant writer at Wii U Go, but doesn't have any admin privileges or anything. I'm quite busy myself, so I don't think I'll have time to lead the project as a co-admin of your blog and FB page, but I'll be happy to help you guys out in any way I (realistically) can. Besides, I think it's cool to watch the community here reach out and do something on their own.

Yeah, I'll definitely re-post these rules in the Petition Thread.  Thanks for looking them over!

About the polls, so far, I have 30 games in all listed.  But maybe this can work.  The first 20 are games of the main Final Fantasy series, and last 10 are main-series-related games.  So maybe we can set up the Poll that way:

"Which of these of the main Final Fantasy series would you like to see in the compilation?"  (Choose among 20 titles listed)

"Which of these of the games related to the main Final Fantasy series would you like to see in the compilation?"  (Choose among 10 titles listed)

Does that sound good, Feld0?

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Oh, that reminds me: Hey, everyone, do you guys think we should limit the number of choices they can select from, or just leave it open?  I ask, because I'm concerned about some people just voting for them all, and getting a more unrealistic expectation with the Poll for Square Enix to take into consideration.  I mean, it's unrealistic that ALL of these games will end up in such a compilation, and if so, we'd want only the honest top choices of our poll selected for the compilation.  Do you agree?

If so, then I will need to know this so that I can set a limited number of choices for poll voters.  I was think about having voters choose around 7 to 10 out of the 30 choices.  But that reminds me--are we able to set such a limit of choices in the polls, Feld0?

Any my co-adminstration offer for the Facebook and Twitter sites and the blog site is open to anyone!  Let me know if you're interested!

Okay, Feld0, I'm ready to start the Petition Thread and Poll. So, I just have to start it as another thread and you'll give that thread a dedicated spot, right?

Okay, guys, I'm now adding the final touches to writing the introductory post for the petition thread! We should be ready for business today!

Also, I'm working on three videos for our YouTube channel:

• A "Getting Involved with Operation Moogle" video, where I'll quickly walk people through how to sign the petition and vote in the poll, and what they can do to help support Operation Moogle.
• A montage video of the best cinematic moments of the Final Fantasy franchise, of a light tone with a light Final Fantasy theme song, to inspire people even more about the compilation (particularly those who like the lighter-toned ones).
• A montage video of more best cinematic moments of the Final Fantasy franchise, of a darker tone with a dark Final Fantasy theme song--again, to inspire emotion for this compilation (particularly those who like the darker-toned ones).

I'm way open to suggestions about the "best cinematic moments" (or, at least, your personal favorites). I'm shooting for the first video to be about 3-4 minutes; and the montage videos to be about 2-3 minutes each.

Also, suggestions for the theme song to play for the montages are much welcomed (including alternate and remix versions of classic Final Fantasy themes)! So far, for the second darker-toned Final Fantasy montage video, I'm thinking using part of this, and for rather obvious reasons:

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What do you folks think?

Also, sorry if I haven't gotten back with some of your messages to me yet. I'll attend every single one, after I make some more time to get to them. You are not ignored! I'm McLovin' this experience, and I like hearing responses from you with our Operation Moogle!

Finally, I'm about, say, 50% done with the official Operation Moogle website, so check it out so far and keep tabs on changes made periodically throughout the day. And as always, your feedback is appreciated!

Everything sounds good. Uh...I don't think IP.Board allows us to limit the number of choices a user can select in a poll, so if you allow people to choose multiple games, you'll have to trust that they're reasonable enough to not choose all of them. Considering how unrealistic it is to expect them to include, like, 10 of them, anyway, I think it might be better to ask people to choose a single game they want to see in the collection the most. You're expecting a lot of people to join the effort, right?

I do expect a lot of people to join the effort, but I was thinking that since some of the games of the series have smaller game disc sizes than others (particularly the older ones), and since they've already released some of these games as remakes anyways, then that could affect the size of the content on the disc, and maybe at most, we would see about the 7 to 10. About five of the larger-sized games can fit onto one 25GB game disc, so I just gave a little room for compromise between the choices of games people want the most and what number of games Square Enix would decide to do.

I don't think we'll see even 7 games on the compilation, but again, it depends on what games the voters choose most, and what Square Enix would do, so I was just ball-parking it with a best-case scenario. I'm saying that at a realistic best, we'll probably looking at 7. And at the nearly impossible-to-happen but still possible scenario, in terms of game disc space, we could see a possible 10 of the choices of certain size fit on one disc. And God forbid if Square Enix just decided to go crazy with a two-collection Collector's Edition or something! Then we COULD be looking at a 10-game compilation of classics remastered in HD. I was leaving room for all those possibilities, even the zaniest ones.

But you know what? We'll just leave it open to voters' discretion. Save us all headaches. Hahaha!

Quite a lot has happened on this thread since earlier.
Also, is this just for North America or for us Europeans too?

This a worldwide event!  This Petition will be open to any of the marketed region!  Europe, the Americas, Asia, Australia.  One of the advantages of having this Petition with a forum is that people at Square Enix can see our Locations.  If we ALL demand this game, we won't run into Localization problems that folks with Operation Rainfall are dealing with (well, at least, that's the plan).

The aim of this petition is not only to let Square Enix know that we ALL want this compilation, but to also put some positive pressure on Nintendo to host this third-party title on the Wii U worldwide without the localization issues they're currently giving gamers with Operation Rainfall.  Nintendo wants stronger third-party support for Wii U.  Square Enix, one of the biggest third-party developers in the world, has expressed interest in the Wii U.  We here at this forum want both the Wii U and this Final Fantasy HD compilation.

A game like a Final Fantasy HD compilation would definitely help the Wii U compete for the "core" gamer.  This game will undoubtedly be released on PS3 and 360, and probably for PC too, and none of those with localization problems.  We just want to make sure it comes out (first of all), and then comes out on Wii U with no localization issues.

About where the Petition will be, it will be a thread here at TheWiiU.com, a dedicated thread set exclusively for our single replies to that thread counting as our signatures of this petition.  This thread will remain the suggestion box/discussion thread for the Operation Moogle, while another thread will be started really soon as the actual petition to host our signatures.

I'm working on a poll we can also participate in along with replying our signatures in that Petition Thread, where we can vote for what games we want to see in the compilation.  Feld0 has offered to give the Petition Thread a dedicated spot, so as soon as I finish with the final touches, I'll start the Petition Thread.  You can check out the rules for posting on hat Petition Thread in my last comment, and I'll repost those rules in the Petition Thread, too.

But until the Petition Thread I'm still working on is complete (and I'll announce it), you can visit our Facebook fan page and Twitter page, and check on the progress of our official blog site.  

Okay, guys, some of you know what this is about from talks in the Comment of this page:

http://wiiublog.com/final-fantasy-hd-collection-is-possible-if-demand-is-high-enough/

For those of you who don't know yet, apparently, Square Enix said that they would really consider producing a Final Fantasy HD Collection, a collection of Final Fantasy games reformated in HD glory, if the fans' voice was strong enough for one.  Here's part of the actual quote from Yoshinori Kitase, the producer of Final Fantasy:

We haven’t made up our mind about that yet, but if there was a strong voice coming through from the users asking for such porting, then obviously we would seriously consider it, but no actual plans yet.

Giving that the Wii U will be a high-definition platform, and given Square Enix's recently expressed interest in the Wii U, it seems there would be a good chance of getting, first, such a collection to be produced, and second, for such a collection to be ported to the Wii U (quite possibly even around launch time next year--who knows?)

Anyways, I'm starting a petition page called "Operation Moogle," in the spirit of Operation Rainfall (Google it if you never heard of it).  I'm open to suggestions for this petition page and ideas towards promoting it.  If we make enough noises, guys, we just might get heard!  

- Brian L (a.k.a. Macro Man Jr.)


[Fifteen minutes later...]

Okay, so far, I'm going with a WordPress page.  It's got an easier way to set up a petition page, and plus you can use your Gravatars for any comments you may leave (just in case you may wanna change them to a Final Fantasy avatar--just for style points).

Also, to make this effort even better, since they may hear our voice anyways, I'm thinking maybe we should feature a poll on the site as well as to voting on the top Final Fantasy games we would like to see in the collection.  Since we wouldn't really know how much of a collection they would compile, we'll just list all the console games and leave the polls to show the top-voted ones.  That way, if Square Enix DOES happen to catch sight of our site, they'll know what surefire wins they can include from this voice.  I mean, it doesn't make sense to NOT put our favorites into the collection.  This dream collection = our wallets handed to them.  (We can even let them know that on the page!)

I think we'll keep the page simple, but still feature the petition page, a news updates pages, and the poll.  Anyways, I'll be working on setting up a page.  Please feel free to toss your suggestions out there.  This is OUR revolution!  (Sorry--my inner rebel's kicking in there!)