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[tonyOn1ce]

There are rumors all over the internet about the 720 and what Microsoft might be planning to do.  The biggest one being an always online DRM for the console.  But there is also the rumor that you will NOT be able to share any games.  Supposedly, the discs will be used once and only once to put the info on the hard drive.  You also will not be able to let friends borrow your games.  This along with some of the rumors regarding the apps that must be bought through Microsoft are all incredibly troubling.  Apparently, they want to connect the 720 with Windows 8's metro userface.  

 

Of course, these are all rumors and may be completely false.  But sites across the net are posting about them and some of these things could very well be true.  If these rumors are true it will certainly hurt the 720 and bring more people to the Wii U and PS4 respectively.    

[dante👌]

If those rumors are true, Then i wont even be Looking into getting the 720.

[xile6]

Already been talk about.
And if they do that it will be the death of them. Always online won't work for a lot of people.
Single use disc will suck if your system breaks.

So yea we will see what happen.

[PyroKinesis]

I don't have a problem with no used games, I have a slight problem with always-on being required. Like to take my consoles on vacation, sometimes there isn't internet.

[Penguin101]

I don't have too much problem with used games, but always online? What happens if your connection cuts out? Or you need to restart the router, or xbox servers go down? It's a shame because I was thinking of having a 720 as my secondary system, and I've never owned a Microsoft console

[Alex Atkin UK]

There is potentially good and bad to the rumours.

 

The Good:

If they make discs a use-once but also unlock the PC version of the game too, that would be good.  However I fear the greedy **** won't do that.

 

The Bad:

I know several people who do not even have their Xbox 360 connected to the Internet, at least one them doesn't even HAVE broadband at all.  Both are currently Xbox 360 gamers, they don't own a PS3.  So if Microsoft do this they are forcing them to side with the PS4 as the Xbox simply won't work for them at all.

 

Personally I think even if the Good point above does apply (fat chance) I will probably still switch to PS4.  Bearing in mind Xbox has been my main console since the first one came out.  They would have to do something REALLY amazing with the Windows 8 integration to make it worth losing more freedom over.

 

At least 75% of my games collection is thanks to second hand games.  I think they are shooting themselves in the foot if they kill off second hand games.

What about the people who buy second hand games then buy the online pass/DLC?  Or who rent a game then buy it on the strength of the rental? (I have done both these things)

 

One thing you have to take into account here also is that owning the disc of a game isn't the guarantee you can play it in the future that it used to be anyway.

 

If in 10 years time you want to play an Xbox 360/PS3 game, will it be worth it if you don't have all the patches (and can no longer download them) so have to put up with all the bugs games inevitably launched with? 

If your save game was made after patches, the chances are it won't even load it without them, even more likely if you used DLC.  In other words, they have ALREADY made games depend on being always online, they have just done it stealthily so that you won't really notice until the patching system is taken offline.

Edited by Alex Atkin UK, 29 March 2013 - 03:47 AM.

[Penguin101]

Oh and what if you just wanna bring a game round a friends, will it suddenly say that it's second hand and prevent you from doing that?

[Alex Atkin UK]

Already been talk about.
And if they do that it will be the death of them. Always online won't work for a lot of people.
Single use disc will suck if your system breaks.

So yea we will see what happen.

 

I think its obvious that the discs aren't single use as such, what they meant by that was you only NEED to use them once, to install the game to the HDD. 

 

Think of it like this, when you buy a game you would be buying a digital download redemption code, like you can today.  However they include the game on disc too so you do not have to download it, instead it quick installs from the disc.

 

Its just a shortcut for people with crap broadband and I suspect you will still be able to install it via downloading if you lost the disc, as it will be registered the same way as download only games do today.

 

Basically I would expect the system to work EXACTLY how it currently does for Xbox Live Arcade games/Games on Demand, its just a small extension to that so you do not have to spend time downloading.

 

For those that do not know, that means it will work for ALL users on the console the game was originally installed onto (the one you redeemed the code on), it will also work on any console as long as your profile is signed into that console.

Edited by Alex Atkin UK, 29 March 2013 - 04:01 AM.

[Ninty64X]

Why is it all the rumors for new consoles are so depressing nowadays? Also if this is true, didn't Microsoft learn from the sim city fiasco? 

[namkotje]

If the Nextbox would be something "between" Wii U and PS4 (hardware wise), It could be only good no?

Devs will prolly choose the Nextbox as devplatform and there is more change the Wii U is getting those games.

 

Or am I really wrong with this?

Edited by namkotje, 29 March 2013 - 02:34 PM.

[SoldMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

I can see Xbox losing a lot of fans if this is true, you only have to look around the web and other forums to see how many Xbox fans are starting to hate on Xbox and Microsoft lol, so many Xbox players have stated that they are gong to move to PS4 if this turns out to be true SOME OF THE XBOX FANS SAYING THIS ARE FANBOYS TOO?!?!?!?! If any of these things are true I personly think Microsoft are about to make the biggest mistake in modern gaming history. Please be aware that this is just my opinion.

[cannonshane]

I just choose not to believe a thing until it's confirmed by a reliable source, that of which most gaming forums/sites are not.