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[umegames]

for a while, I've been feeling like 3rd parties are starting to become a joke, and the way the industry is going only a handful will even be making games of quality that aren't yearly franchises and this is why the industry is in DIRE need of indie developers blooming into success.

This will sound fanboyish, but nintendo does not have this problem. quality of 3rd party games are going down, quality of nintendo games are going up. my statement is irrelevant to the sales of hardware, shareholders, and all that business talk, I'm strictly speaking about software quality, which is what we gamers care about, that pushes us to spend our $ on said software.

 

just like many 3rd party mega-boomming games before i.e. rock band, guitar hero, etc many things fade away, but nintendos franchises havent.

Eventually, COD, Battlefield, Assassins Creed, these series will fade away, so the question is what will these companies do when this happens?

IMO i dont believe they have what it takes. for example, with ubisoft, Gen before, Prince of persia was big, then they moved to assassins creed, which worked, but will watch dogs? looks promising, but I'm not sure, but is watch dogs able to be the new POP / AC of this new gen? time will tell

 

[Colinx]

I disagree, Activision has and always be around. Activision always has something. And seriously? Battlefield? Come on, Battlefield isn't even an annual franchise plus EA has a crap ton of other games. Watch Dogs really doesn't have the potential or following to be among the likes of AC and COD. Although it is a new IP, there are similar games to it and will/has not done anything that I can tell that will reinvent or aid in it's genre.

[Rockodoodle]

Hopefully Wii U sales pick up to where it makes sense for them to develop for the Wii u.....  

[Raiden]

AAA 3rd parties are much more lazy than ever. Where the 3rd party is strong with Nintendo is indies. Indies are the future and indies bring back the era of the 80's-90's where they make games and really try and be as creative as they can. They keep trying something different. Indies are a quiet but very impactful slow reboot of life into this industry. AAA devs feel threatened by indies.Does not mean all AAA devs are lazy but most are. Not all indies are great. Many are. Wii U with indies has the potential to reflect the SNES era of 3rd party support. The next Chrono Trigger could be on it's way in terms of a generational defining classic on Eshop. Xbox 360 helped open a door which MS has since nearly closed and Nintendo learned from it and opened those doors wide with open arms and a gift basket.

 

EA,Activision,Square,Ubisoft are not the key to the future of success but the key to more stagnation.

[umegames]

I disagree, Activision has and always be around. Activision always has something. And seriously? Battlefield? Come on, Battlefield isn't even an annual franchise plus EA has a crap ton of other games. Watch Dogs really doesn't have the potential or following to be among the likes of AC and COD. Although it is a new IP, there are similar games to it and will/has not done anything that I can tell that will reinvent or aid in it's genre.

 

the giants like EA and Activision i know will be around, i just feel personally that they dont dish out enough AAA games aside from their bread and butter, being the giants that they are. Ubisoft has stepped up above and beyond to me, I'm just concerned for this next Gen. 

Edited by umegames, 30 January 2014 - 07:46 PM.

[lucario23]

the giants like EA and Activision i know will be around, i just feel personally that they dont dish out enough AAA games aside from their bread and butter, being the giants that they are. Ubisoft has stepped up above and beyond to me, I'm just concerned for this next Gen. 

I agree that Ubisoft seems to be the only AAA publisher that seems to know what it means to go next gen. Activision and EA are both pretty much crap. EA has a few interesting things with Plants vs. Zombies garden warfare, Titanfall, and Battlefront but that's about it from them.

 

Nintendo really does need to court the indie devs and the more independent studios like the people working on No Man's Sky and some of the neat projects showing up on Kickstarter. I would really like to see continued support from Ubisoft after watch dogs with the Crew and possibly even the division. I doubt it will happen, but that would be all the big third party support you would need along with the indie and kickstarter stuff to really have a powerful library!!

 

The only other games the Wii U really needs from third party would be Batman, Battlefront, and possibly an exclulsive FPS? Idk, but they really do need minimal third party support for a lot of the big blockbuster Microtransaction games. They do need the publicity for what it is they are doing though. The AAA scene is slowly fizzling out and I think Nintendo could play their cards right to get a lot of sales and great games during the second half of the life cycle if indies keep supporting it.

 

Kickstarter and Indies are becoming more ambitious as the competition between them is heating up. The Mighty No. 9, Space Pioneer, No Man's Sky, Armillo and many others are starting to look really good. I'd really like Unsung Story to come to Wii U also (Kickstarter). There are tons of fresh innovative ideas out there that will drive the innovation forward. If most of them can make their way on to the Wii U and they can be marketed correctly, then Wii U could become really competitive. especially if they added a few more features like voice chat to make the multiplayer experience more usable for co-op and competitive games.

 

It would be awesome if Nintendo found some way to get a multiplayer fps like Titanfall that they could get exclusively from a third party developer though. It's the one exclusive they don't really have. I'd be ok with a spin off Metroid series. Like Mario and Mariokart, have the first person adventure game Metroids and a competitive multiplayer Metroid game.

 

There's just so mmany good games coming to Wii U and it's a shame that many people won't ever know because they aren't being marketed correctly, though on that note I did see a Bravely Default commercial during the later hours Adult Swim on was it Cartoon Network? It was a cable channel in passing...