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[giggity3000]

I agree there is a lot of things that can be done graphic wise.

I thought i would just get ignorant hate comments, thank you

[Auzzie Wingman]

It's not that I think there can't be graphical improvements. It's just going to feel like it's going to take forever.

[Waller]

If a consoles replaces polygons with atoms then you can make individual pores on a persons face.

But you can't make animations as good as the ones of polygons.

[giggity3000]

But you can't make animations as good as the ones of polygons.

All that matters is the graphics to graphics whores.....
They couldn't care less about anything else so if it has better graphics then Wii U is kiddy to them.

[Nintendofanboy53]

Well apparently Microsoft are making a console for casual gamers and there is a lot of market for it so it sort of varies

[BazzDropperz]

Well apparently Microsoft are making a console for casual gamers and there is a lot of market for it so it sort of varies

These days console manufacturers can't afford to aim for one particular audience. Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft will be going for everyone.

[Wertville]

All that matters is the graphics to graphics whores.....
They couldn't care less about anything else so if it has better graphics then Wii U is kiddy to them.

You know that animation is part of graphics, right?

And to respond to your earlier statement, no one denies that graphics can be sent further, it's just that we won't be seeing a huge burst of graphics. Diminishing returns, just Diminishing returns...

[Bill Cipher]

You know that animation is part of graphics, right?

And to respond to your earlier statement, no one denies that graphics can be sent further, it's just that we won't be seeing a huge burst of graphics. Diminishing returns, just Diminishing returns...

Exactly. Graphics can get better, but we are quickly approaching a standstill. How much more realistic can games like Call of Duty get without using actual people?

[Nintendofanboy53]

These days console manufacturers can't afford to aim for one particular audience. Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft will be going for everyone.

Well that is a good point but what I said before was a rumour so.............

[Josephus]

Exactly. Graphics can get better, but we are quickly approaching a standstill. How much more realistic can games like Call of Duty get without using actual people?

Call of Duty is a poor example, since it´s graphically quite midrangend (for consoles). But I know what you meant.
Well, the very truth is: Games are restricted to the quality of animated films. And animated films are restricted to the quality of reality.
Animations in films can nowadays be very, very close to reality. But think how it was 20 years ago.
The overwhelming part of videogames is nowadays far away from reality, the remaining part is just not close. If you disagree, think again.

As I see it, there will be one noticable jump in graphics (like ps1 to ps2) with the eighth console generation, and then everything will slow down a lot(The PS5 for instance could be released 2030ish).

[SleepyGuyy]

well one i said it was a RUMOR! i guess just like the rumor that nintendo was showing a new console E3 this year.... how did that turn out? anyway i think anyone with common sense knows the next xbox and Playstation will be more powerful than Wii U without us even knowing yet how powerful Wii U is. what i was saying is that "IF" this rumors does come true and microsoft shows their new console at E3 2012 knowing it will be more powerful than Wii U that could be bad for nintendo's lets get the hardcore back movement.

id like to point out that the new console was not a rumor a month or two before E3, I remember watching a video of Iwata standing on a stage talking about how thier next console is going to be revealed at E3, and that It has lots of power for HD but that wont matter (very confident of the controller, but nobody knew about it so that remark was mysterious.), Second...

Nintendo seems to be the most creative out of the big three, so unless Sony or Microsoft come up with a mind boggling idea within a year ,the only thing they might possibly beat the WiiU at is power.... and at the rate technology moves, as fast as it is, they'd have to make a very high end computer to trump the WiiU, costing well over the reasonable amount for a highselling, wide market device.

Also Nintendo wont lose the hardcore market completely, this site sorta proves that. It's series and style have too many fans to be overwhelmed by MS or Sony, Do not worry young grass hopper, Nintendo will continue with quality for at least 7 years.... then the Robots will rise up!!

[Narcidius]

There are a LOT of very reasonable responses to the original "worries" being posted here, so I won't waste everyone's time by reiterating. I would only add that Nintendo does, in fact, have to "worry" about about its competition... though certainly not, as others have so eloquently explained, because of the obvious fact that its tech will be somewhat "behind" them.

Nintendo's only real worry is the same as it always has been - to stay relevant to a market with decidedly Western tastes and a voracious appetite for social networking. Nintendo has been struggling for a while with these elements... and I think that it is ultimately this battle that will decide the "console war" for this next cycle. Can Nintendo make games that capture the Western imagination (which means some new IPs), and can they keep us connected in the way that we have come to expect from any/all of our electronic devices? I don't know... but I hope so.

[Matt]

How much more powerful can a gaming console get while still being practical to play and develop for? In my opinion, until someone figures out how to make point-cloud graphics work well with games, we're pretty much set on graphics. The more polygons in a model, the more time and money it takes to develop. Skyrim looks amazing, but ultimately, isn't it running on hardware from half a decade ago? You really have to look hard to notice the difference in graphics between games from 2007 and games from 2011, even on the PC.

So, no, Nintendo's not gonna get the console one-up. It's gonna come down to games in 2012 at the rate we're going now.

[djlewe78]

Normally i would say, that it would'nt really matter. Nintendo has a loyal fan base and as long as it wasnt to shabby, they would sell millions! But this time nintendo has come shouting saying "we want to win the hardcore gamers back" Im worrid that if M.S and Sony come out and show new consoles, the hardcore gamers wont come over to nintendos new beast and stick with what they know. This would mean that Nintendo would have lost a battle and the console wont be as sucessful as they hoped. Im still getting one though!

[Hamez]

Regardless of whether a competitor show a new console next year or not, Wii U will still have many more core fans than before. The main reason is 3rd party support. The reason why multi-platform developers did not include for Wii was because the lack of power would require the game's engine to be scaled down very much; it just wasn't worth it. Now that the Wii U has much power, the margins of power between Wii U, the next Xbox, and the next PlayStation are not going to be as large as they were this generation, allowing more developers the desire to include Wii U support for their games.

Basically, there will be more 3rd party support, making more core fans happy with hat Wii U has to offer.