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It is only a rumor, but if its true....

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.  It isn't that much more powerful first of all.  Second, we are in diminishing returns territory and any gains in power aren't going to translate directly into more detailed graphical performance in game.  Third, PS4 will have much more going on in the background than the Wii U, so much of the extra RAM and compute power will be reserved for those tasks.  Fourth, we don't exactly know the raw power potential of the Wii U, we can suppose things based on what we know about the GPU and CPU dies, but those numbers don't make any sense when we see trailers like X, which is a pre-alpha trailer that shows a massive amount of detail in an open world that would require more power than what many believe the Wii U to possess.

They will be graphically on par with each other.  Later in the generation, When the hardware is fully understood on both consoles, developers will most likely be able to eke out better LOD or higher poly counts but they won't be visually discernable details from a gameplay perspective.  The Wii U is much more powerful than both the PS3 and the Xbox 360, that much has already been shown.  The ports that came with the launch were developed toward weaker target hardware and most developers received dev kits very late (last 6 months) because the hardware wasn't finalized until shortly before launched.

Runner  2 isn't for everyone. I tried the Demo, didn't get far but it wasen't that exciting. Never played 1 though. Rather play Cordy.

 

 

So anyways I decided to count up some 'hardcore' games that are typical ps360 games since the numbers were pretty consistant. I know its not a efficent survey but. on this thread so far:

 

Assassins Creed III: 29%
Black Ops II: 29%
ZombiU: 65%
Most Wanted U: 21%
Watch Dogs: 21%
Ninja Gaiden:15%
Batman Arkham City: 21%
Other (Tekken / Darksiders / Mass Effect / RE / Bayonetta): 38%

 

I can see why developers are a bit hesitant, but like I said its only out of 33-34 people.

Ahh that's fine, it is a fun game, but no game is for everyone.  I didn't list what I planned on getting so I will now, since this is being counted:

WatchDogs

LEGO City

Spider Man

Bayonetta

XenoU

NFSMWU

there are more so I can add them later when I think of them

it could be if they would make at leas another commercial that catered toward more mature gamers like teens and adults. i was mad at the one i saw on youtube but when i actually saw it on tv i ddnt think it was as bad, but it still made it out to be only a kids game.

Explain to me how they marketed it as "only a kids game"?  Do adults not buy LEGO games?  What is it with the aversion to games that don't feature uber mature themes?  It's based around LEGO's. I'm 28 years old and it looks fun as hell to me.  Real, actual people who have actual maturity don't need to be reminded of that fact through their videogames.  I can still enjoy things that are made for children (interestingly enough children are typically the people who have to prove to everyone that they are "mature", adults who have progressed emotionally through adolescence can typically tell their super ego to shut the hell up and let them enjoy stuff)

Don't like typing it all. So here is a pic. I have pre-ordered Amazing Spider Man, Lego City, MH3, NFSMW U, Walking Dead  and have Nano Assault Neo

Nice

This games doesn't interest me in the least, so I'm passing on it. I think the game's producer is delusional?

Are you asking if you think the game developer is delusional? lol

Anyway, thanks for sharing.

depends on how much you like lego really, i don't like the lego games at all, rather have GTA5.

I'd like to see GTA5 released on the Wii U, but I would rather play this.  LEGO city isn't like the licensed LEGO material at all.  Since it is a LEGO proprietary property they can add more creative gameplay elements.

What's your point. That Nintendo Direct doesn't do anything to address how Nintendo have handled the Wii U release so far or all the mistakes they have made with it. It doesn't change anything regards what I said. The future like the past is still dire for the Wii U and there needs to be a lot of issues that need to be resolved if Nintendo is going to have success with the Wii U in the long term. For the sake of repeating myself once again you are just blinded and give way more credit to Nintendo then they deserve.

There aren't so many issues as you would like to think.  They need games, plain and simple.  Regardless of how it launched that's over now, the launch period is coming to a close soon and we are just now starting to get some serious games.  Glass half full, everyone knows it hasn't been a super smooth launch, but much of what has happened was to be expected given the circumstances surrounding world economies, the gaming industry, and Nintendo and third party decisions.

Nintendo should have had devkits out sooner.  Nintendo should have been supporting devs much sooner, Nintendo should be advertising, Nintendo should not have restricted the use of the gamepad for developers.  

The hardware is there now, and we're starting to see games, announcements, etc.  Watch Dogs and Assassins Creed are big titles we will be getting.  There are other third party titles we will be getting, including exclusives.  We know that SSB, SM3D, MK, etc will be playable at e3 and that we will be getting some Zelda games at some point.  These are positives you completely ignore as unimportant information but it is important.  If Saturn is guilty of ignoring any negative information about Nintendo, you are guilty of glossing over any and all positives.  

PS4 and 720 will both be priced higher than the Wii U, maybe not by much, but by enough that when taking into account more than half of the PS3 and 360 sales came in the last two years those are not people that anyone can depend on for new console sales when their next ones launch.  If the future looks dire for Nintendo it looks just as dire for the other two consoles, 3rd party games aside.

What he is giving Nintendo credit for in the post you quoted they deserve credit for.  In the last year, Nintendo Direct has become a big way to get news and information directly from Nintendo executives.  They deserve plenty of credit for this.  Nintendo have always been a secretive bunch, and the fact that they are opening up to their fans and detractors alike to make announcements and give updates cannot be overstated.  It can also be said here that sometimes you don't give credit where credit is due.  No gaming company is perfect, but Nintendo aren't dead yet, and neither is their console, and they deserve credit for many things, as they are the primary source for most of the innovation in the gaming industry.  The other two companies only emulate, all the way down to their service models, which were derived from PC services and social networks.

Too sexist for me.

Sexist how?  It stars a female who learns how to survive and kick a** due to her experiences?

Well Mass Effect 4 definatly isn't coming, God, they arn't even supporting Mass Effect 3 with it's DLC.

Yeah I don't expect to see a whole lot of EA titles coming through.

No I don't want the Wii U to fail. Quite the contrary. I am a big fan of Nintendo and its consoles. However unlike you I'm a realist and see it how it is and i am NOT prepared to give Nintendo a get out of jail for free card. You on the other hand seem blinded by your views on Nintendo and the Wii U and think they can't do anything wrong and everything about the Wii U and the way Nintendo is marketing and promoting it is perfect. I've got news for you its not. You sound like a broken record constantly criticising me for my opinion acting like a fanboy. I'm not going to accept everything is right with Nintendo and the Wii U when it clearly is NOT. Nintendo have made several mistakes and its not the first time so they clearly haven't learnt what the market wants and what creates success in the market place.


Maybe so but these are all could be factors not ones that are or will definitely be. Nintendo is losing both time as well as consumer confidence and need to turn the game around soon if they are going to give consumers a reason to stick with the Wii U and to buy it over their competitor's offerings.

I don't disagree

Nintendo certainly haven't had a perfect launch, but all of the recent news seems to point to it not being for lack of trying.  They worked to get third party support for their system, but the hardware and dev toolset wasn't anywhere near what it should have been to help devs make better launch games.

They have done a garbage job with marketing.  I don't know what their plan was but it was a terrible one based on the current state of their non existant marketing campaign.

I appreciate the fact that you are a realist, but I think it should also be tempered with a little perspective.  If Nintendo were so bad at reading the market we wouldn't bee seeing motion controls and touchscreens and d-pads, analogue sticks, shoulder buttons, etc included in all of the competing products.  We can all look at history and see how Nintendo innovations have become ubiquitous to gaming itself.

On the other hand, they definitely have made mistakes, including this launch.  While I think it is one of the better launches we've seen from a console in a couple of generations at least, it could have been better and Nintendo shares a big part of the blame for why it isn't what it could and should have been.

That all said, I still don't see Nintendo going anywhere and I think that deep down everyone in the industry knows that it would be very bad for the entire industry for Nintendo to bow out.  Nothing rumored or confirmed makes me worry about the Wii U.  In fact, much of the PS4 announcement made me more confident in the product.  

On your reply to me, I agree its mostly speculation, but the points the author made ring true.  Nintendo IP's will sell systems and they will come in due time.  Also, he mentioned the main problem the Wii U has is lacking games, which we all know is true, and starting this month it will have more games, and better games, that will help sales (I said WILL, I'm confident enough, even though it is strictly my opinion).  It was worth posting here as it is a breath of fresh air to see a journalist with some confidence in the system, however useless the information contained therein is.

Oh, and as far as consumer confidence, much of that can be put on the videogame media as well, most of what has been written has been negative and many contained wild, baseless lies about the system's performance capability.  That coupled with a garbage marketing scheme don't really help consumer confidence, but once they start showing what they have hardware and software wise, I believe it can come back.

I certainly don't want it to fail but I'm also not jaded by supporting Nintendo in the past. I just see it how it is with the Wii U and Nintendo's approach and attitude regards it. They haven't changed their ways and whilst the Wii sold extremely well and was so successful because it was going after the casual and non-gamer market and priced very competitively they can't be complacent with the Wii U or rely on the same game plan with the Wii U.
 

Understood, I was just spitballing.  I agree that the same gameplan they used for the Wii will not work, but seeing their marketing approach I'm wondering if they even had one.  

Are you blind man? WF made an eye opening post and apparently you still couldn't see. Its like you actually want the Wii U to fail. 

I doubt very seriously he wants the Wii U to fail, perhaps jaded by supporting Nintendo in the past only to receive p*** poor third party support at the time.

Honestly I think he's just trying to be realistic about his expectations of Nintendo, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  

All of this we know about. All of this has been mentioned and discussed here and elsewhere. Its hardly concrete evidence or even a reality. Its all supposition and speculation and doesn't change anything at this point.

True, but it is nice to see an article that isn't dripping with contempt for Nintendo.

I'll be picking this up for my Wii U!

As will I

You certainly haven't done your research. And what makes you think you know where my research and information comes from. You don't know diddly squat about where my opinion comes from. I suggest you stop insulting other people's intelligence and own up to the fact that is your opinion and not fact. Like you I have my opinion. I don't agree with you and believe you're wrong. If you think the same of mine then so be it. Your opinion is just that and doesn't neccessarily make it anymore right them mine. I suggest you get of your high horse and think you're always right and others are wrong. My opinions come from working in the retail games industry for over 20 years for both national retailers and local independents as well as talking to developers and publishers.

I actually have, and working in VG retail certainly does not make one an expert in, well, anything.  I have several friends who have worked in the same industry for well over 15 years but they certainly don't consider themselves experts on the industry writ large, because they have little understanding about the politics involved.  Politics and economics I do get, very well.

You seem to have forgotten that you were the one that came in on a high horse labasting others for even contemplating buying a used videogame, and stated as fact that the used game sales subsidiary industry is killing dev houses and causing them to shutter.  You couldn't be more wrong.  My opinions are based in sound economic principle and history.

I honestly have zero interest in insulting your intelligence, and if I have, my sincerest apologies.  However, strong opinions beget strong opinions, and you would do better to actually listen to others' rather than assume that you are the subject matter expert.  We all have our strengths and it's better to work within a collaborative construct than a destructive one.  So for my part in any damage done again my apologies, I just ask that you respect the opinions of others if you want yours respected.  

I agree with you on many things, and I appreciate that what you aim to deliver are objective posts here, but you need to recognize that very rarely are your posts objective in the slightest.

You also need to read my posts carefully, remember them, because it isn't just video game publishers that are bleeding money and seeking to gain more control over the industry through proprietary services.  They have to compete with technology more than ever, because it truly is bringing customers and creators closer together than ever before and removing many of the roadblocks that made third party publishers a necessity to begin with.  If you don't see it that way, no worries, but it is happening regardless, and publishers in every media industry are scared.

BTW if there is something wrong with my posts, try posting a constructive reply rather than insults that lack any substance.  A peeing contest doesn't further the discussion, it only derails it.