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#276585 Why Watch Dogs Shouls Be on your Must Have

Posted by KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums on 10 March 2014 - 12:50 AM

Not really. I've explained multiple times that Rayman and Watch Dogs are two different examples. Rayman wasn't a huge game that took five years to develop. Waiting even longer when one game feel behind. It will be costly to keep delaying, especially if it ends up being next year. So, Ubisofts next big next generation game won't hit until three years after the next generation starts (Nov 2012 is when it started officially). That's nit very good for business.

So, does it make me mad? Yes. But, as long as the time is well spent on upgrading and adding functionality, I don't give a darn. And every indication says that's what they are doing.

But, as I said before, people who are scorned won't listen to that logic. They just want to nit support a good Wii U game because of anger.

Also, you said the Wii U is the lesser version. Which means it isn't a good game compared to the others. Please don't try to ignore your own statements.

The point is that they deemed it ok to delay Origins for months so they could create several other copies of it, but they won't wait at all for Wii U version to be delayed. I also don't se how delaying the games release is a loss of money. Potential money, maybe, but not directly as far as I know.

And people aren't pulling support from under Ubi because they don;t want to support a good game. Don;t be stupid. They're pulling support because of above mentioned betrayal of trust, plus this delay, plus the practically confirmed graphical drop, plus the fact it look like Ubi intends to start treating us like all the other western developers; like second class gamers.

"My full statement was if we buy a good game that is still a lesser version." As in, as the sentence clearly states, it would still be a good game, people just wouldn't b taking Ubi's crap.

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#276413 Why Watch Dogs Shouls Be on your Must Have

Posted by KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums on 09 March 2014 - 01:16 AM

There you go again. Assuming the Wii U version is going to be crappy.

Look, I've said like a billion times, if the game isn't good you are completely legit on nit buying the game. You don't like it because it's gimped. Bam, legit.

I can't believe it wasn't even asked until now. At least according to ship records lol.

No I didn't assume it was crappy. I literally started with "if we buy a good game" Also, I think delaying a game only for Wii U only when they did the exact opposite but a couple months ago is definitely behaviour that should at least make you consider boycotting.

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#276527 Daughter rides Mother while Son motorboats

Posted by Raiden on 09 March 2014 - 03:17 PM

I saw this on reddit like 2 years ago.

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#276525 Daughter rides Mother while Son motorboats

Posted by Raiden on 09 March 2014 - 03:09 PM

Spoiler

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#276624 In defence of third party publishers

Posted by 3Dude on 10 March 2014 - 06:16 AM

The thing is, I've never denied some third parties are in the wrong. EA is horrible, because of the example you gave. Activision is at least somewhat supporting their Wii U games, just not as well as they should.
So yes, there are bad developers and bad publishers out there. However, there are third party developers who do try. I've stated those few who have. I use to like Namco with Soul Caliber, but then they totally forgot about us after SCII. Funny thing, SCII did great on GCN. Having Link was a great edition to that game. Which is why I never understood why we didn't get a true sequel to that game.
You can try to make a difference between small developers like Platinum Games and bigger developers like Bungie all you'd like. You can of course come up with all their bad choices and say they all suck besides these smaller studios. Go ahead. Do that. I don't give a rats butt.
However, my point still stands. Third parties have put good effort into Nintendo's platform. There are good developers out there.
And Nintendo choosing to pick up Bayonneta 2 has nothing to do with what I said. All that proves is Sega didn't think there was money in the franchise, and Nintendo saw something in the game they liked. I hope it does sell well, but I'm not holding my breath. But that game isn't a third party game anymore. It's published by Nintendo. So if it does do well, it isn't an example of s third party doing well.

I try to remember to differentiate publishers from developers. There are som great devs being destroyed by crappy pubs.

But my end state is clear. I dont support crap ports, or crap games. These publishers wont stop crapping on wii u if their garbage sells, theyll just take it as a sign that effortless garbage sells on wii u.

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#276457 You guys want Kingdom Hearts on the Wii U? Take this survey.

Posted by Zinix on 09 March 2014 - 08:40 AM

I don't play this Naruto crap .

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#276401 In defence of third party publishers

Posted by Socalmuscle on 08 March 2014 - 10:03 PM

While I admit there is a lack of effort on third parties providing lackluster efforts to the Wii U, there is evidence creeping in that despite its low install base Nintendo Wii U owners simply don't care for third party games at all or supporting the Wii U if they can afford to buy a Wii U or buy third party games.

I point the finger at all of us for failing the Wii U just as much as the corporations that either provide ports of games several years old at a full price or just don't provide enough effort separating the Wii U version out from the crowd.

My game collection mainly contains third party games such as Tekken Tag 2, Trine 2, ZombiU, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Need for Speed: Most Wanted U, deus Ex: Human Revolution: Directors Cut, Assassin's Creed III, and Batman: Arkham City: Armoured Edition. With only a small fraction such as Wind Waker HD, Nintendoland, and Super Mario 3D World coming from Nintendo itself.

I feel sometimes that I'm part of a small breed of Nintendo fans that truly put their money where their mouth is, despite me only being able to afford £40 most months. Seeing the statistics of third part multiplats on other "next generation" (they're current gen now!) consoles such as COD: Ghosts sales on PS4 and XBO compared to Wii U sales especially when back then PS4 and XBO (XBO still does) had far less sales than the Wii U is horrid. Maybe it's the marketing, but I blame the majority of Wii U owners that say "we don't want a generic FPS on our console" these people are the snobs DESTROYING Nintendo's chances at gaining third party multiplat support.

Again the publishers themselves aren't blameless, far from it. They are lazy, and wont even try risking a PS4/XBO game on the Wii U, but I do also accuse the (seeming) majority of Nintendo fans for doing as much damage, if not more.

Yes Nintendo themselves could moneyhat publishers into providing ports, but to what advantage if the money is better spent in heightening the quality of their own products if the console ends up a first party only machine? Moneyhatting only provides temporary solutions at best for the majority of cases, and really Nintendo have to concentrate their efforts on gaining non-nintendo fans and the fickle general public with better advertising geared at gaining new Nintendo console fans or making their first party games better rather than temporarily gaining a third party game through essentially bribing other companies.

I also accuse a lot of fans who can afford a Wii U but wont invest a measly £180 - £250 (compared to PS4 and XBO) on the console itself, despite plenty of games and a brilliant future lineup!

What do you guys think, are the majority of Nintendo fans (who can afford it) to blame equally if not more than third part publishers? Or am I just being a meany?

Nah. Most third parties have simply hobbled their games, released crappy last gen ports, or released games that were already available on other systems years ago.

It's pure common sense that they didn't sell.

Now. Even watch dogs is in jeapordy because who knows how long the gap is between ps4 and wii u releases.

It's a bunch of stupidity from the third parties.

There is a self fulfilling prophecy they have created. And it started wit Ubi betraying Nintendo who was counting on them. That, along with EAs withdrawal hurt consumer confidence in the platform. Combined with the subpar ports, and it's a recipe for disaster.

Wii u owners are the victims of this political crap. Not the perps. That blame is laid squarely on the shoulders of studios who treat wii u like a second class citizen and then blame the platform when consumers don't buy their uninspired steaming piles of crap.

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#276154 Wii U's Memory Bandwidth, GPU More Powerful Than We Thought?

Posted by Hank Hill on 06 March 2014 - 09:53 PM

an idiot post I said never to happen

the first idiot post that should never have happened and dear god in heaven no post should be that long

Preeeeetty sure I told both of you to knock it off.

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#275991 Gentlemen, I Like Brawl

Posted by grahamf on 05 March 2014 - 10:28 PM

I'm aware that it should be Smash Bros or something. That being said, Who's ready for the next Smash?

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#275745 Batman Arkham Knight revealed...No WiiU version

Posted by NintendoReport on 04 March 2014 - 07:24 PM

According to VGChartz, Arkham Origins sold around 150K copies on Wii U while it sold 1.56 million for PS3, 1.33 million on Xbox 360. That's not even 10%...not even sure there was a huge amount of profit on that end.

Are you saying it's not a huge amount of profit on the Wii U Versions end, or all 3 consoles? To be honest, 150K is very comparable to the numbers released on PS3 and X360. When comparing the percentages against total install base. Looking at just percentages of this game across each install base, nothing hits over 2 or 3% .

So for example: 150K copies for Wii U version in a 5 mil install base is 3 percent. 3 percent of Wii U owners purchased the game. 1.56 mil copies for PS3 in a 80 mil install base is 2 percent if you round up. Similar numbers for 360.

A good marketing guy could take numbers like this and say the selling rate of the Wii U version was better than that of any other console version. :laugh:

Just thought I would put it into a different context. To be honest some of these ports didn't do as bad as the dev/publishers or others say, it's just the fact that you're comparing a small puddle to a vast overflowing river.