Aiddon

we get it EA, you're pissed that Nintendo won't coddle you. Guess what, it's time to get over that and grow up

But wouldn't a crash at that scale hinder everyone including Nintendo?

Except Nintendo is so smart and careful with its finances and decisions that they've stored up a giant war chest and could actually weather a crash if it happened. Other companies could not and would have to do major restructuring just to keep afloat. Nintendo could afford to keep ALL their employees and even expand. It's that foresight that has let them be around so long.

Needless to say when Nintendo becomes profitable they'll have to make a huge apology to Nintendo 

They won't; thing is Western 3rd parties are too proud and arrogant to admit fault with anything. When the 3DS bounced back not one Western 3rd party went back to it despite the system being an easy gold mine. Indie devs have been more accommodating, but the major 3rd parties seem to be more interested in bankrupting themselves

we were never entitled to an ambassador program with the 3DS. People have turned into such spoiled brats

 

2) Then it would be just like the Wii and 3DS. You make it sound like that's a bad thing. In a way it is, yes because you have to wait longer for each big game, but Nintendo still unarguably makes some of the best games in the world. They are untouchable in terms of standard of quality.

If "all" I can play is LoZ, Mario, Smash, MK, Metroid, and many other classic franchises, then I'll still be happy. Is it ideal? no. But it'll do.

That is the funny thing with the 3DS; Nintendo has pretty much gotten to the point where their handheld division is self-sustaining with the occasional Eastern 3rd party title like Shin Megami Tensei IV. Western 3rd parties haven't made jack for the system despite the fact that it has an enormous user base, thus meaning its a gold mine they're blatantly ignoring. It's almost like what happened was they were too embarrassed to just admit they were wrong in writing the 3DS off so they chose to ignore the elephant in the room rather than eat crow. The fact that they ignore such a money machine is completely stupid.

You don't seem to get this. Coming from someone who pre-ordered Arkham Origins, and is planning to cancel that pre-order:

First off, you CAN change what a company is doing. We did it to get Deathstroke pre-order DLC. We did it to get Smash Bros. Stremed at EVO, and people did it with the Xbone 180. The reason this keeps happening is because most western third party developers act like PS3 and Xbox fanboys, and think all Nintendo fans are not only mentally challenged, but not real gamers. therefore they think 1. Let's just eff them over because eff Nintendo (looking at you EA) 2. They probably won't even notice, they're not "real" gamers.

So, if we keep buy these "eff you" games, then guess what? As far as they're concerned oh look we were right! Stupid Nintendo fans didn't even notice, and payed the same amount of money for an inferior version of the game! Ha ha ha, stupid Nintendo fans!

Now people aren't stupid enough to buy these games, so they don't sell. So then they say, "we're not doing ____ because our games aren't selling well."

But the games aren't selling well because of their mentality I just explained.

And, despite what they like say, they will make profit if the game is good. For example Arkham City was ported properly, and guess what? They made profit. I'm not sure how true these figures are, but apparentyl, it didn't cost them more than 900k to port that game to Wii U. They have 160k sales. Do the math, and that means they only needed to make 5.625 Dollars per game they are selling them for sixty.

Go figure.

All in all, not buying the game is still the better option in my opinion. there will be other fun games, from people who aren't total bucking d***heads, also I'd rather not be a slave to those total bucking d***heads and support them in the bashing of my, and others' intelligence.

I hope you understand now.

It's the vicious cycle once again. Nintendo owners won't buy 3rd party titles due to knowing said parties screwed them out of content in one way or another and 3rd parties then proceed to put even LESS effort into supporting Nintendo because their halfassed efforts were called out on being halfassed by a lack of sales. It's pathetic on the part of 3rd parties and the fact that they try to play innocent victim, blaming Nintendo and its fans, is disgusting. The reason Nintendo sells so damn well is its constant record of quality. 3rd parties don't release good games or advertise the Nintendo version badly, so of COURSE they're going to fail. Nintendo knows that, but 3rd parties don't. And I'm wondering if Western 3rd parties are legitimately trying to kill Nintendo via software starvation because they're afraid of them getting even MORE powerful or that 3rd parties are just that bloody stupid.

And that's a perfectly fine attitude to have if you're ok with them all abandoning Wii U. If you bought it for Nintendo games, and most of us did, then continue as you have been.

Ineptitude is not something to be rewarded. They have no excuse to be lazy or inept. Like a child, they blame others like Nintendo or the customers for their own failures. If people didn't buy it on the Wii U then it's obviously something the developer did, not something Nintendo did (who merely provide the platform) or the customers (who won't buy sub-par ports). There is NOTHING that's remotely defensible about 3rd parties' laziness and ineptitude.

Neither of those are exclusives. And oblivion? on consoles? Ugh. elder scrolls does not belong on consoles.

Though I give credit to gow as at least a year timed exclusive before heading to pc. But lets face facts. "let's not pretend that we're wallowing in the future of entertainment. What we have here is an extremely competent action game that's as polished and refined as it could be, and is therefore very enjoyable. . But if Epic had applied the same widescreen scope and ambition to the gameplay as it did to the engine we'd be much more excited than we are."

Now compare it to what the ps2 had by then.

Dark cloud, dark cloud 2(chronicle), Silent hill 2, ico, jak and daxter, red faction, time splitters, grand theft auto 3 (the first gta that was actually, well, whats known as gta, mind blowing revolutionary change in gameplay enabled by the new engine)

This list can go on for a looooonnngggg time, it literally hasnt even gotten started.

The multiplat homeginization has severely devalued the console gaming experience. Different consoles should ALL have mostly different libraries, not just nintendo.

Though let's face it, devs have pretty much shot themselves in the feet by letting budgets spiral out of control, thus why making exclusives terrifies them and thus why they've become so risk averse. And again, the reason I can't sympathize with these guys is because they could rectify these mistakes in a second by scaling budgets back, stop making stuff that's ONLY M-Rated, cater to other niches that have been starved, make more stuff for handhelds, and generally just stop making such bad business decisions. And YET, they keep making these mistakes and blaming everyone else, whether it be console makers or consumers.

It's a shame that journalism has gotten to this. Here in Canada you'd be bending the law, if not outright breaking it. It's illegal to knowingly broadcast false information.

Gaming journalism is pretty much a bunch of glorified fan blogs with skewed opinions, sloppily done research, and lack of professionalism. There's a reason it's mocked time and time again.

I hate this. Why on earth do people want console gaming to be completely homogenous. What is the point in having multiple consoles if the games are all the same?

Who the hell cares about buying more games if they are all middling multiplat crap instead of awesome generation defining exclusives? This is the crap that turned this gen to the crappiest in gaming history, and people are so used to being shoveled feces they just lewve their mouths gaping waiting for more terds to be shoveled in.

Because 3rd parties have been trying to convince consumers of a one-console future for years. Furthermore, companies have always tried to perpetuate that there is only ONE line of evolution for consoles and that is the "just add more power to it!", blissfully unaware of Diminishing Returns, which are now happening as seen with the PS4 and the XB1. The entire reason Nintendo went in a different direction than everyone is because they realized first that just doing the same thing as everyone else wasn't going to work forever.

And companies HATED that. They hated being proven wrong by somebody they wrote off as a has-been, only for Nintendo to come back from the dead and basically humiliate them. They showed that motion controls weren't just a gimmick and that the huge leaps in tech philosophy 3rd parties had been perpetuating for years wasn't the end-all, be-all. It's akin to a fundamentalist finding out that the Bible had huge errors that needed to be corrected. But still 3rd parties have been just making thesame crap for years, terrified of actually putting forth effort or scaling back budgets a bit to focus on what's important.

uh, are most people forgetting that Nintendo already said they were only going to be talking about previously announced games? It's kind of amazing at what people will sulk over.

Anyway, good stuff, if not all that surprising. It is also nice that they've announced the Wonderful 101 Direct.