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#1 umegames

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 12:46 PM

NO SPOILERS for those who haven't played, but i need to know is there anyone else out there that didn't like the ending?

 

apparently at work I'm the only one...



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

no you arent the only one. I myself didnt like the ending, it felt kind of rushed. 



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 12:57 PM

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I thought the ending was great. It rang true with the world that we were experiencing through Joel's, and Ellie's eyes, and it showed how much both of them had changed of the course of the game, as characters. While it doesn't have that satisfying happy ending, it really shouldn't have, simply because that's not what the game was like, and as such, the ending shouldn't be like that either.

 

My two cents anyways, take that as you will.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:07 PM

I thought it was good because it wasn't what I expected. The message the ending conveyed was well thought out.


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#5 umegames

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:08 PM

I thought the ending was great. It rang true with the world that we were experiencing through Joel's, and Ellie's eyes, and it showed how much both of them had changed of the course of the game, as characters. While it doesn't have that satisfying happy ending, it really shouldn't have, simply because that's not what the game was like, and as such, the ending shouldn't be like that either.

 

My two cents anyways, take that as you will.

hmm. I didn't really want a happy ending, 

 

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i just wish Joel didn't lie to elle. He had no right to make that choice to save her, she wanted to be used for a cure, now whether she was willing to die for that is up in the air, but she didn't even get to make that choice. It does seem though, based on the end conversation, that she would have been willing. Just wasn't cool to me. from the start of the game I figured okay, someone is going to die...instead they don't, rather they doom the human race by not using her as a cure.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:13 PM

hmm. I didn't really want a happy ending, 
 
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i just wish Joel didn't lie to elle. He had no right to make that choice to save her, she wanted to be used for a cure, now whether she was willing to die for that is up in the air, but she didn't even get to make that choice. It does seem though, based on the end conversation, that she would have been willing. Just wasn't cool to me. from the start of the game I figured okay, someone is going to die...instead they don't, rather they doom the human race by not using her as a cure.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:28 PM

Ya i wasn't so fond of the ending either, i thought it would have been better (high expectations).

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

hmm. I didn't really want a happy ending, 
 
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i just wish Joel didn't lie to elle. He had no right to make that choice to save her, she wanted to be used for a cure, now whether she was willing to die for that is up in the air, but she didn't even get to make that choice. It does seem though, based on the end conversation, that she would have been willing. Just wasn't cool to me. from the start of the game I figured okay, someone is going to die...instead they don't, rather they doom the human race by not using her as a cure.

Im pretty sure she saw through his transparant lie... And was ok with it.

The one thing I really, REALLY didnt like about the ending was

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:30 PM

I liked the ending, it's one of 2 endings that made me feel like something wasn't rignt. The other being Mass Effect 3 but I know I'm in the minority on that one.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:00 PM

It sucked.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

hmm. I didn't really want a happy ending, 

 

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i just wish Joel didn't lie to elle. He had no right to make that choice to save her, she wanted to be used for a cure, now whether she was willing to die for that is up in the air, but she didn't even get to make that choice. It does seem though, based on the end conversation, that she would have been willing. Just wasn't cool to me. from the start of the game I figured okay, someone is going to die...instead they don't, rather they doom the human race by not using her as a cure.

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Ya i wasn't so fond of the ending either, i thought it would have been better (high expectations).

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Im pretty sure she saw through his transparant lie... And was ok with it.

The one thing I really, REALLY didnt like about the ending was

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:21 PM



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i 100% understand Joels feeling, however that doesn't make it right, elle is not his daughter and she deserves to make her own choice. NOW if Joel wanted to break her out of there, explain to her that yeah you're gonna have to die for them to use you BING! i like that better. 

 

I think the game was good and the story telling was on key, i just don't like the ending. Were it a movie (which you could argue it was) I'd still say the same thing. Joel was selfish in the end, from the killing the fireflies, the surgeon, marlene and lying to elle twice.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:27 PM



i 100% understand Joels feeling, however that doesn't make it right, elle is not his daughter and she deserves to make her own choice. NOW if Joel wanted to break her out of there, explain to her that yeah you're gonna have to die for them to use you BING! i like that better. 

 

I think the game was good and the story telling was on key, i just don't like the ending. Were it a movie (which you could argue it was) I'd still say the same thing. Joel was selfish in the end, from the killing the fireflies, the surgeon, marlene and lying to elle twice.

Dude, ever hear of spoilers?

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:35 PM

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:38 PM

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The problem with this line of thought is that the logic behind it just doesnt pan out. Throughout the entirety of the game the player is given the freedom of making joels choices, from whether to start a firefight, stealth kill everyone, or just sneak past them. You can choose to let people who you feel arent bad go, or eliminate those who you think are, the choice is all yours.

To search for and collect comic books for Elly, whether or not to engage Elly in conversation when shes feeling down, or is confused, or interested in something from the past. Whenever the player is in control, ie, its not a cutscene, they are offered complete control. Except there.

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And thats not my only gripe with the game, while most of the storytelling is great, parts of it are extremely hamfisted, like the incident with the soldier at the beginning.

But just because there are parts of the game that could be done better, or have mistakes dont mean I think it has a bad ending, or that it wasnt a fantastic game.

And even if someone did think such, so what? Just because you really enjoyed the game doesnt mean you should rationalize excuses for any of its shortcomings people may or may not think it has, it doesnt need it, it can stand just fine on its own.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:50 AM

I've seen so many people criticize the ending but to be honest what did you want instead?

 

Joel grew to care about Ellie, it wasn't about what was morally right... if you were in the same situation as him, caring for someone so much like Joel does for Ellie, would you have let them go for the sake of something you didn't know wasn't 100% guaranteed? The vaccine wasn't a sure thing.

 

Besides Ellie had a bad case of survivor's guilt. Here's a really good quote on Tumblr that explains that issue a little bit better.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:13 PM

The problem with this line of thought is that the logic behind it just doesnt pan out. Throughout the entirety of the game the player is given the freedom of making joels choices, from whether to start a firefight, stealth kill everyone, or just sneak past them. You can choose to let people who you feel arent bad go, or eliminate those who you think are, the choice is all yours.

To search for and collect comic books for Elly, whether or not to engage Elly in conversation when shes feeling down, or is confused, or interested in something from the past. Whenever the player is in control, ie, its not a cutscene, they are offered complete control. Except there.

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And thats not my only gripe with the game, while most of the storytelling is great, parts of it are extremely hamfisted, like the incident with the soldier at the beginning.

But just because there are parts of the game that could be done better, or have mistakes dont mean I think it has a bad ending, or that it wasnt a fantastic game.

And even if someone did think such, so what? Just because you really enjoyed the game doesnt mean you should rationalize excuses for any of its shortcomings people may or may not think it has, it doesnt need it, it can stand just fine on its own.

I think the distinction is that none of these are really moral choices, so much as they are gameplay choices. If you were given the ability to make decisions like say now to handle a situation, outside of combat, I would be more than willing to agree with you.

 

Also, to touch on the spoiler

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

I liked the ending.

 

It made Left 4 Dead possible

 

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#19 SleepingWolf

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:28 PM

I actually liked the ending.

Joel lying to Ellie was a great way to show how selfish humans can be with something or someone they love, I think it

was a great ending that ended with the main character being a bad guy and a liar.

 


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 02:18 PM

I liked the ending.

 

It made Left 4 Dead possible

 

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