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#61 3Dude

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:54 PM

xbox one and ps4 games looked waaaay better than what wii u showed at e3,are you all mad???


one of the best wii u had to offer ages after release



ps4 launch game


Are you seriously trying to compare killzone to mario kart?

Well, at least you moved on from ps3 games.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:04 PM

Are you seriously trying to compare killzone to mario kart?

Well, at least you moved on from ps3 games.

put any game nintendo showed INCLUDING X next to killzone and it gets raped BIG time,and thats a launch game



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:09 PM

xbox one and ps4 games looked waaaay better than what wii u showed at e3,are you all mad???



one of the best wii u had to offer ages after release

 

 

ps4 launch game

 

You do know that the XBone games were being ran on a computer with better specs, right?  You comparison between Mario Kart and Kill Zone is honestly stupid. Why  don't you use two games that match one another?


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#64 syks-1

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:15 PM

You do know that the XBone games were being ran on a computer with better specs, right?  You comparison between Mario Kart and Kill Zone is honestly stupid. Why  don't you use two games that match one another?

Like ive already said,you can put x,bayonetta or ANY game nintendo have shown us after all this time next to this ps4 launch game and they ALL GET DEMOLISHED..



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:39 PM

Like ive already said,you can put x,bayonetta or ANY game nintendo have shown us after all this time next to this ps4 launch game and they ALL GET DEMOLISHED..

And yet you're the only one saying this.



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:48 PM

prob because im one of the few on here that isnt a delusional fanboy,you have eyes,and a brain? use them lol the proof is in the pudding :)

I'm far from a delusional fanboy (my favorite games are hardly Nintendo franchises), and I honestly don't see X and Bayonetta being "demolished" as you say. That seems like an overexaggeration.



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 02:27 PM

Ad hominem holds no weight syks. If you cant convince people with your current arguments, you may want to try again later when youve formed better ones than 'lol youre a fanboy'.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 02:48 PM

ok i dont need or want to really convince any of you,you can think and have your own oppinions but the proof is in the pudding,that killzone gameplay which is a LAUNCH game absolutely CRUSHES everything nintendo have showed us so far,dosnt matter if you want to admit it or not and that is a fact!! it is also ONLY a launch game.



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:01 PM

ok i dont need or want to really convince any of you,you can think and have your own oppinions but the proof is in the pudding,that killzone gameplay which is a LAUNCH game absolutely CRUSHES everything nintendo have showed us so far,dosnt matter if you want to admit it or not and that is a fact!! it is also ONLY a launch game.


Well, sure. But formulate an argument on HOW it crushes wii u games. Dont just go around saying it, and offering no supporting arguments. I wouldnt advise trying to boast character models though.... just some advice from devils advocate 3dude.

Although, the ps4 is twice as powerful as xbone? shouldnt you be using xbone games like ryse considering the thread.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:15 PM

Lol

The ps4 launch games have been in development as long as the wii u games shown at e3.

So they're on equal flirting in that regard.

Killzone doesn't have the massive open world that x does, not the speed nd constantly, rapidly changing environments that Mario kart does. And if argue that Mario Mary character models are far more complex than killzone models, though killzone has more complex environments (again, that don't have to transition very quickly).

I'd also say second son has worse graphics than any e3 game on the wii u. And killer instinct for the x1 has poor graphics. Knack doesn't impress as much as Mario kart and its a slow moving game with an easier option for graphics.

X and bayonetta held up to Xbox one but get slightly outshined by three genes on ps4: destiny, the division, and killzone.

But here's the thing... First person shooters are the easier to push graphics on. Yet the wii u doesn't have one made for it. So we can't do an apples to apples comparo. Which leads me to a theory about Nintendo not wanting metroid to get lost in a sea of possible fps games from x1and ps4, but I digress.

The ps4 is the most powerful machine coming. It will have the best looking games. But not by much, as evidenced by killzone, destiny, and division. Being that x86 is do familiar to developers, the entire system architecture so accessible and the memory pipeline easy to fill, the only concern is that this may be the best the ps4 has to offer already, launch or no.

Wii u is very much in this fight. The graphics they showed were shocking in terms of how well thy look versus ps4 and x1.

Too bad there are some delusional haters who don't want the wii era to end. News flash: it's ended. And the wii u is bringing true, next gen graphics to shake things up.

From the sound of it, at least one hater in this thread is already feeling the effects. Lol

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:16 PM

When will people realise that simple specs don't create a great console, you know what makes a great console, having 'fun' games and despite what a lot of people think you can have a fun game without it needing high end graphics and running at 60fps.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:17 PM

Except that the wii u does have high end graphics running at 60 fps.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 05:08 PM

Socialmuscle brings up a great point. If the tools are there, the PS4 is more or less an x86 machine with a different OS. Unless they handicap devs, they would theoretically have access to virtually everything the console can do, outside of optimizing for the specific CPU and GPU. The Wii U is on that traditional level of yearly improvements. I wonder which one will get maxed first?

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:49 PM

xbox one and ps4 games looked waaaay better than what wii u showed at e3,are you all mad???



one of the best wii u had to offer ages after release

 

 

ps4 launch game

 

 

Shadow Fall just looks like Skyrim on the Xbox 360 with a gun, nothing new to see there. I'd rather take the gameplay of Mario Kart 8 over that mediocre series.

The fact that you compared a cell-shaded cartoony style game to a more a realistic style is really funny and sad.

 


 



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:19 PM


*snip*

 

First off, I'd like to say that that the fact that Mario Kart 8 is not a launch game changes nothing; both MK8 and Killzone are being released at the same general time. That's all that really counts.

 

Secondly: [sarcasm] you know, because off-screen footage is usually the best representation! [/sarcasm] Let's redo this...

 

One of the best Wii U had to offer at E3:

 

 

PS4 launch game:

 


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:39 PM

xbox one and ps4 games looked waaaay better than what wii u showed at e3,are you all mad???



one of the best wii u had to offer ages after release

 

 

ps4 launch game

 

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:40 PM

How can you really compare the two in either case? Mario Kart vs Killzone? C'mon man! LOL. 

 

You really need, like, the same game, from the same people, optimized for each system, to see clear differences.

 

I don't know why anyone feels the need to prove the PS4's superiority. No one ever said it wasn't. Heck, I think every one here wants one. 

 

However, you cannot go on specs alone, as there will always be the PC around to crush it in that department. 



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:57 PM

Syks, I don't know if you're a troll, serious or just plain delusional but X is an OPEN WORLD RPG. Killzone (a franchise I love), is a FPS which only have closed environments. When we see a Nintendo-made, closed-environment FPS/game ; that's the time we can actually debate about the topic. Open world games require much much more resources than FPSes. Also, Mario Kart looked pretty close in terms of graphics considering Mario is a racing game.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 01:57 AM

While i do agree that Nintendo could have added more RAM considering Ram is so cheap but im happy with what i have purchased. Graphics isn't the only thing that attracts developers, they need to consider it's profitability, the resources it will require and how easy the architecture will be to program with. PS3 for instance had quite a lot of power under it's hood for it's time but was overshadowed for quite a few years due to hard to develop for architecture and low user base. I honestly don't care if the graphics improve no further than what we have now, i would rather play a game that has unique and fun gameplay rather than a bland, generic shooter or simulation racer that prides itself on graphics but doesn't match up to gameplay.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 02:03 AM

Except that the wii u does have high end graphics running at 60 fps.

Exactly, So what difference does it make if its not as powerful as ps4 and xbox one ?


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