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[3Dude]

I disagree. The games you mention as being crud are from being so. A lot of those games are great and even if you don't care about them a lot of Wii U owners do and those are exactly the kind of games the Wii U needs. The attitude of people like you happy with the first party and second party exclusives is certainly not a representative of the wider Wii U community any one who bought one certainly didn't make a mistake in doing so. They have every right to expect the same games that are being released on other consoles. Unfortunately with the state of the Wii U as it is today most third parties don't really have a financial incentive to release their games on the Wii U. A lot of this has to do with Nintendo not being aggressive enough or providing the type of game playing experience found on other consoles especially when it comes to the online structure and how people's online accounts are handled.

Great compared to what? The more of the conditioning i see in action the more I have to agree with Jonathan blow and jason rohrer.

The only people who thinks the majority of the product churned out by the aaa factory line can be considered good, nevermind great, either dont know any better, as the bulk of their gaming experience actually did take place in the seventh generation, or have been conditioned to stockholm syndrome.

We should be LIGHTYEARS past where aaa gaming is right now. Instead, were playing the exact same games for three generation straight.

Compared to what ive seen, the games ive played in their time, those games are mostly degenerative garbage falling far short of where they should be, when compared to what previous generations did in their time.

Its not that were happy with first and second party exclusives, its that we refuse to be a part of feeding the cancer thats destroying our hobby. Plus I really cant stomach 'playing' another game where all I really do is watch the computer automatically do everything i used to do, while I hold the stick in a general direction until i get to the next consecutive context sensitive area, where the game tells me to press a button while standing close to thing, and then i watch the character do something with thing, and then cutscene plays.

Its like the difference between going on a grand adventure, and being on a crappy amusement park ride depicting said adventure.

Its crap. Its all crap.

[Raiden]

Remember those things in Amusement park that looked like a space shuttle and was on a gimble sorta thing and you went in sat down and gave a lame simulation of being on a roller coaster on a old worn out projection screen?

 

How a lot of AAA gaming is designed now

[Mewbot]

Will still be buying Watch Dogs. Yes, even after they screwed us over.

[DéliopT]

Like someone said, Ubisoft could have answered literally: how could they presente Nintendo games?

 

Actually, Iwata pretty much confirmed Just Dance at the last Investors Meeting. And if all Wii U ports still make Ubisoft Money, why stop it and damage the relationship with Nintendo? Only if the new games take so much manpower that Wii U games, with their small profits, are no longer a viable option.

 

I say that come E3 Ubisoft games will be shown for Wii U.

[Auzzie Wingman]

Chart doesn't have the ANZ Edition. The chart is a lie.

[Hank Hill]

The only people who thinks the majority of the product churned out by the aaa factory line can be considered good, nevermind great, either dont know any better, as the bulk of their gaming experience actually did take place in the seventh generation, or have been conditioned to stockholm syndrome.

 

Or maybe, idk, they're just having fun with a game rather than demanding each game be an all new experience that demands the world of them. I wasn't aware that if somebody grew up on gaming pre-7th gen, they'd immediately find all current games garbage. I know that's certainly not the case for me. I'm more interested in having a good time with a game rather than demanding that every game challenge me in every aspect. 

 

But feel free to continue bucking your high horse. I know your ego loves it.

[3Dude]

Tony the Talking Clock, on 26 May 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:
Or maybe, idk, they're just having fun with a game rather than demanding each game be an all new experience that demands the world of them. I wasn't aware that if somebody grew up on gaming pre-7th gen, they'd immediately find all current games garbage. I know that's certainly not the case for me. I'm more interested in having a good time with a game rather than demanding that every game challenge me in every aspect.

But feel free to continue bucking your high horse. I know your ego loves it.

Didnt you just take your drivers test?

Since you decided to take my quote out of context I will go ahead and add the context back in. Those were musings from roher/blow game design lectures, from back in 2007. I was simply observing and commenting on how every day I see more and more evidence tossed onto ever increasing piles giving heavier weight to the statements credence. Just like your post. Another to add to the pile.

I also very specifically stated the category of games I was talking about, which is a very, very far cry from your strawman of 'every single game'. Yes, I expect games with upwards of a billion dollars in their budget, Games that cost over half a hundred dollars to buy, to provide more value than mindless fun, dramatic presentations of non challenge, and grinding the treadmill.



There will always, ALWAYS be a place in videogames for the simple pleasure of having fun. When I was a kid it was the arcade. Today, its equivalent is very clearly visible in mobile games.


PC gaming/Home consoles came because there were those who knew that games could be, and wanted games to be, more than simple mindless fun.

If thats all you want, thats fine. So why do you keep acting like you have a hat in our ring?