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#21 BrosBeforeGardenTools

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:14 PM

Possibly because of a debate he took rather personally.


That's what I was thinking as well. I personally, think that he got his feelings hurt, but that he would never admit to it. He'd even argue with me probably, about it.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:25 PM

That's what I was thinking as well. I personally, think that he got his feelings hurt, but that he would never admit to it. He'd even argue with me probably, about it.

I don't see what he has to be hurt about. He was the one breaking rules, being a douche and attacking everyone.

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#23 BrosBeforeGardenTools

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:27 PM

I don't see what he has to be hurt about. He was the one breaking rules, being a douche and attacking everyone.
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Maybe it's just because I'm closer to his age, but in my and his eyes, he was probably getting attacked by two kids with big mouths at the time, which just so happened to be you and Waller. But no offense. I'm not saying I don't think you're a good member.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:31 PM

Maybe it's just because I'm closer to his age, but in my and his eyes, he was probably getting attacked by two kids with big mouths at the time, which just so happened to be you and Waller. But no offense. I'm not saying I don't think you're a good member.

People keep saying things to imply I was doing anything worthy of a reaction in any way. I didn't. You can read all my posts, I didn't insult him once, an told him to calm down several times. Waller and I didn't attack him, we suggested that since he was breaking rules, maybe having him as a moderator wasn't the best idea (I think it was waller who was with me on that). Both of us were very respectful as to how we suggested that. He had 0 reason to act the way he did.

I wasn't even taking the debate fully seriously. I made a lengthy, completely unrelated sex joke in one of my posts for goodness sake ._.


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#25 BrosBeforeGardenTools

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:33 PM

All I know is that Waller can be a chore sometimes. He never talks to me but whenever carp goes down, he will hurl an insult at me whenever it's convenient for him. I really didn't pay attention to the whole thread, but I don't fully think that nothing went on.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:35 PM

All I know is that Waller can be a chore sometimes. He never talks to me but whenever carp goes down, he will hurl an insult at me whenever it's convenient for him. I really didn't pay attention to the whole thread, but I don't fully think that nothing went on.

3Dude was never insulted in that thread. Not once. If he got his feelings hurt it's from people criticizing his behaviour, which he was very much deserving of.

Also thought I should mention, age has nothing to do with it. i don't care how old you are, you never have an excuse to call someone a prick simply for having a different opinion than you.


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#27 BrosBeforeGardenTools

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:37 PM

I just have to support 3Dude. 3Dude once said all manner of evil against me for bashing something he liked, and I didn't care, because I knew him. I just learned not to stir him up.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:41 PM

Well you make take that beaviour, but I won't. Also rule breaking is rule breaking. Period. Just like how police who break the law should be fired or at the very least reprimanded, a moderator who breaks the rules deserves the same. He's a member just like everyone else. He shouldn't get immunity.


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#29 BrosBeforeGardenTools

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:45 PM

Whether or not he's a moderator doesn't change his behavior. He went after me when he wasn't a moderator.

People are just too human rights activists these days. Sometimes us kids, including me, need a owning.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

Exactly my point. If someone else exhibited his behaviour, i would hope they would get warning points. The reason I bring his moderatorship up is because I believe his behaviour doesn't reflect how a moderator should behave. A moderator's job is to uphold the rules and make surepeople follow them. If they can't follow the rules, how can you expect them to inforce them, and how can you punish others for breaking them? A regular member shouldn't have to be stopping unwarranted, agressive behaviour and attempting to de-escalate a user. That's a moderator's job.

 

And I was the one saying people are too human rights, not him and no, he did "own" anyone, he was just attacking everyone who dared to not just say "praise 3Dude, his opinion is scripture". If someone "deserves" an owning (which I did not, since it was an opinion, a perfectly valid one that I had better insight on since I'm a minority) you do it cally, with logic. Not by strawman arguments and name calling.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

why does past drama keep coming up in your threads? lol


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#32 BrosBeforeGardenTools

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:58 PM

why does past drama keep coming up in your threads? lol


I don't think I fully started it this time. And unlike the other dramas, I think this still needs addressed.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 03:00 PM

I agree it still needs to be addressed. I know I'm still ticked.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 03:01 PM

I don't think I fully started it this time. And unlike the other dramas, I think this still needs addressed.

This was 3dudes life on WUF lol

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 03:05 PM

This was 3dudes life on WUF lol

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lol true

except I believe the words "ignorant prick" were used intstead of "someone".


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 03:06 PM

Then the other issue right now, is that people are annoyed by me even though I kind of apologized. There is debate as to whether I was trolling or being serious. I will not even bring this up or who is right. But either way, the fact is I am not well. I don't need sympathy, although Sorceror has been a pretty decent friend even when I've gotten mad at him, and although it's alright, that's more than I can say for some people.

So the big issues right now... me and 3Dude. And don't tell me not to bring it up when Aaron or whatever his name is is.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 03:24 PM

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You might make a lot of threads, but they all remain relevant to the forum or gaming. They also don't appear to be a canned meat product, and if they are, they certainly don't contain much ham. Basically people's concerns are that it annoys them. I don't really see why, since it's not necessary for them to read the threads, and it's not like you're knocking more "Important" content of the recent topics section since gaming news is semi dead right now and Zinix isn't even doing his thing any more. So I don't see a real issue here. Especially since, as you said you already apologized.

 

However 3Dude did break the rules, and he holds a position of authoirty. If something has happened to insure this doesn't happen again, we, the general pupulace, haven't been made aware of it.

I have seen Mods abuse people and get away with it before, and then tell people to stop talking/asking about why and whether or not something needs to be done.

The behaviour killed those forums.

If it become more serious, it creates a divide. The moderators become an elite clique with all the power. Their opinions become law. You either agree with them and get a pass, or disagree with them and gt a) shouted out B) punished in some way or another.

So you have three choices. The first is to say "forget this" and leave. The second is to try and defend your right to an opinion and eventually end up banned through mod abuse, or shunned by the forum, since the mod's opinion is now law, and everyone must agree with it. The third is to play suckup to the mods. Become their besty, defend all their choices, make excuses, and have them defend what you say. Except this option if a false option. No two people ever have the same opinions on everything. Eventually you grow bitter, or you slip up. Either way your fate is the same as option a) and B).

 

This is forum is pretty great right now, and in general everyone gets along pretty well. If this goes much farther that won't survive, and I don't want to see that happen.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 09:51 PM

Great another thread that has gone down the tubes.


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