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#161 Chaos

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:58 PM

So I did some sort of progressive glitch hop thing...

 

 

What do you guys think?

It sounds like a lot of the old music I used to listen to back in elementary school. Those were the days :P It's pretty good XD



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 08:01 PM

New around here. Mainly joined the forum to be a part of this thread tbh :P

Anyway I produce most genres.

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one of which is this, which I would say is a better example of my current style. skill lvl etc:

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 09:41 PM

New around here. Mainly joined the forum to be a part of this thread tbh :P

Anyway I produce most genres.

My soundcloud, which only has 2 things on it rn

one of which is this, which I would say is a better example of my current style. skill lvl etc:

どぞう よろしく おねがい します。 ^_^

Ah cool, you were the one who followed me like a week ago XD It's nice seeing a new person on this thread lol. That's a pretty cool song though. I'll follow you back now that I know who you are. Hope to see you post more here :D


Oh hey guys, I added more to the song. It's still far from finished, but I think I have solid beginning and middle now at least.

 



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 10:24 PM

Ah cool, you were the one who followed me like a week ago XD It's nice seeing a new person on this thread lol. That's a pretty cool song though. I'll follow you back now that I know who you are. Hope to see you post more here :D


Oh hey guys, I added more to the song. It's still far from finished, but I think I have solid beginning and middle now at least.

 

haha yup, that was me. Followed all of you guys once i set my soundcloud up.

Will definitely be around a nd posting a bit. Might post a song i'm planning to send to a label in a couple days.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 11:27 PM

New around here. Mainly joined the forum to be a part of this thread tbh :P

Anyway I produce most genres.

My soundcloud, which only has 2 things on it rn

one of which is this, which I would say is a better example of my current style. skill lvl etc:

どぞう よろしく おねがい します。 ^_^

 

Oh, cool! I was wondering why you were following me Chaos and Hinkik. :D Good to have another producer here. I'll add you to the OP!


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 02:29 AM

Ah cool, you were the one who followed me like a week ago XD It's nice seeing a new person on this thread lol. That's a pretty cool song though. I'll follow you back now that I know who you are. Hope to see you post more here :D


Oh hey guys, I added more to the song. It's still far from finished, but I think I have solid beginning and middle now at least.

 

 

Awesome! Let me remix it when it's done!

 

Btw here is some technical things I can point out:

 

1. The main synth could get some more low mids and more crispy highs

2. The rain is awesome. but try to blend it in more with maybe some slight reverb or EQ

3. Intro + breakdown is a little too long for my taste before the "drop" at 3:00

4. The high end of the clap could be more stereo seperated

5. A sidechained sub might work wonders for the flow and low end, your kick is quite tight so there is definitely room for a sub.


New around here. Mainly joined the forum to be a part of this thread tbh :P

Anyway I produce most genres.

My soundcloud, which only has 2 things on it rn

one of which is this, which I would say is a better example of my current style. skill lvl etc:

どぞう よろしく おねがい します。 ^_^

 

日本人ですか?このサイトで日本人をいるが珍しいですね。僕はハーフですけどなので、日本語をそんなに話せません。とにかく、よろしく!


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 09:59 AM

 

日本人ですか?このサイトで日本人をいるが珍しいですね。僕はハーフですけどなので、日本語をそんなに話せません。とにかく、よろしく!

いいえ わたし は がい人 です。 でも 日本ご と 日本 の  文化 が すき です。 Hopefully I can teach there someday (lol i can't say that part in Japanese :P )


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 01:12 PM

Awesome! Let me remix it when it's done!

 

Btw here is some technical things I can point out:

 

1. The main synth could get some more low mids and more crispy highs

2. The rain is awesome. but try to blend it in more with maybe some slight reverb or EQ

3. Intro + breakdown is a little too long for my taste before the "drop" at 3:00

4. The high end of the clap could be more stereo seperated

5. A sidechained sub might work wonders for the flow and low end, your kick is quite tight so there is definitely room for a sub.

Cool! Sure, I'll send you a project file when I'm finished.

 

For the main synth though, I can raise the low mids in the eq, but the chords don't actually hit any of the high frequencies except for when I turn the cutoff on the filter all the way up, so that might be a little hard to fix.

 

I added some reverb and EQ to the rain sample and then I put some slight compression on it. So it sound better I think.

 

For the kick I just added a sub bass kick so I hope that works. I don't want it to clash with the bass line so I originally had the EQ set so that it wouldn't interfere with the bass as much. I guess I went too overboard with that lol.

 

As for the clap, seperating the stereo is probably one of my greater weak points. Maybe I can find a good tutorial for that.

 

Oh, and I made the intro and breakdown so long because I'm planning on making it over 6 minutes long. So it's long on purpose like that. Maybe I'll make the original version into an extended version and then make a shorter one though.



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Posted 06 April 2015 - 01:59 AM

Cool! Sure, I'll send you a project file when I'm finished.

 

For the main synth though, I can raise the low mids in the eq, but the chords don't actually hit any of the high frequencies except for when I turn the cutoff on the filter all the way up, so that might be a little hard to fix.

 

I added some reverb and EQ to the rain sample and then I put some slight compression on it. So it sound better I think.

 

For the kick I just added a sub bass kick so I hope that works. I don't want it to clash with the bass line so I originally had the EQ set so that it wouldn't interfere with the bass as much. I guess I went too overboard with that lol.

 

As for the clap, seperating the stereo is probably one of my greater weak points. Maybe I can find a good tutorial for that.

 

Oh, and I made the intro and breakdown so long because I'm planning on making it over 6 minutes long. So it's long on purpose like that. Maybe I'll make the original version into an extended version and then make a shorter one though.

 

For crispier highs on the synth, you can just add to amount of cut off the cut off envelope does. You will basically get higher transiets in a very short time intervall.

 

Regarding the bass. A sub never clashes with a regular bass. You generally high pass at 150Hz on the regular basses. It will sound heavy/full layered with low mid bass you have. Sine wave is probably the best thing to put in the sub 100 Hz area if you want fullness and punch. (Just lower the volume of the sub if there is too much punch). Listen to Oliver Helden's Koala and you will understand what I mean. Or even a better example, this one has a very tight low end and still that plucky progressive feel to it. I think you should consider using that track for referencing. Listen to the highs in the chords in the track, they have crispy highs even though the cut off is quite low. He has probably done some mid/side EQ to get such punchy chords while still maintaining the width.


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Posted 06 April 2015 - 10:05 PM

So... I finished the song (I might need to remove the ending part, but that's no big deal.) The only problem is that it's so over the top that FLS crashes when I try to render it lol. So there is a possibility that I'll either have to render it in a lower quality instead of 320kbps or somehow wait until I get a better laptop that can handle the amount of ram it takes to render this file.


HAAAAA! IT RENDERED! I just needed to cut off the last 30 seconds (which was too upbeat anyway). And then close down every other program.

 

So here is a screen shot of the whole composition...

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And here is the song

 

So for the most part, I don't plan on changing anything. Just need to know if there are any minor details that I might have missed. I tried to keep it sounding slightly empty so that if I send it in to get mastered it will sound better in the end. Also, make sure to tell me about how out of key the bass is :P



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 05:21 AM

So... I finished the song (I might need to remove the ending part, but that's no big deal.) The only problem is that it's so over the top that FLS crashes when I try to render it lol. So there is a possibility that I'll either have to render it in a lower quality instead of 320kbps or somehow wait until I get a better laptop that can handle the amount of ram it takes to render this file.


HAAAAA! IT RENDERED! I just needed to cut off the last 30 seconds (which was too upbeat anyway). And then close down every other program.

 

So here is a screen shot of the whole composition...

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And here is the song

 

So for the most part, I don't plan on changing anything. Just need to know if there are any minor details that I might have missed. I tried to keep it sounding slightly empty so that if I send it in to get mastered it will sound better in the end. Also, make sure to tell me about how out of key the bass is :P

 

Very nice!

 

Btw mastering isn't like a secret magic tool that adds fullness and fills the whole spectrum. So the mix shouldn't sound empty if I understand what you meant right. You still need to fill out the fullness and phatness of the track. Generally, if you want a loud track for example, then that track should only need a few amounts of dB of limiting. You can't polish a turd is a good quote for the mentality when doing a mixdown which is going to get mastered.

 

Btw send me the midi for the chords, that's all I need :P


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 07:19 PM

I liked that song Chaos.

 

Felt like calling some crappy people nearby me in life out today and verbally crushing their skulls beneath my boot, for being the soulless backstabbers they are.

A good thing I suppose, since it inspired me to try and finish up the master on that track I'm going to send to that label as an attempt to calm down. So here it is: :)

Can post a screenshot of the project file if you guys want as well.



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 07:34 PM

Very nice!

 

Btw mastering isn't like a secret magic tool that adds fullness and fills the whole spectrum. So the mix shouldn't sound empty if I understand what you meant right. You still need to fill out the fullness and phatness of the track. Generally, if you want a loud track for example, then that track should only need a few amounts of dB of limiting. You can't polish a turd is a good quote for the mentality when doing a mixdown which is going to get mastered.

 

Btw send me the midi for the chords, that's all I need :P

You don't want the bell sounds or the awesome rain sample of awesome?


I liked that song Chaos.

 

Felt like calling some crappy people nearby me in life out today and verbally crushing their skulls beneath my boot, for being the soulless backstabbers they are.

A good thing I suppose, since it inspired me to try and finish up the master on that track I'm going to send to that label as an attempt to calm down. So here it is: :)

Can post a screenshot of the project file if you guys want as well.

Thanks. I actually turned off all of the compression and EQ on the master channel for that song. I don't want to give out a free song just yet. I sent it into sunsetmelodies to see if they could possibly master it for me or something.

 

As for your track I think it has a nice arrangement, but I can't help but think that there is something missing. I want to say it's the reverb, but I'm not a pro at this kind of thing. You can post a shot of the project file if you would like to. I actually enjoy seeing how other people organize there music... because I don't organize mine at all. I don't know if you can tell by the screenshot I took of my song :P keep up the nice work though. I'm rooting for you to get signed!



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 07:54 PM

You don't want the bell sounds or the awesome rain sample of awesome?


Thanks. I actually turned off all of the compression and EQ on the master channel for that song. I don't want to give out a free song just yet. I sent it into sunsetmelodies to see if they could possibly master it for me or something.

 

As for your track I think it has a nice arrangement, but I can't help but think that there is something missing. I want to say it's the reverb, but I'm not a pro at this kind of thing. You can post a shot of the project file if you would like to. I actually enjoy seeing how other people organize there music... because I don't organize mine at all. I don't know if you can tell by the screenshot I took of my song :P keep up the nice work though. I'm rooting for you to get signed!

Hmm I did use reverb, but very lightly and in small rooms because that way the bass from the synths don't drop out that much. Oh well. That's the prolem with trying to review pretty much any audio/song. Very little definite stuff you can point fingers at as "wrong". But thanks, means a lot. Will let you guys know if it does happen :)

 

Oh and here's the screenshot. It's actually a prettyy old song, so the way I organized is a little outdated lol.

 

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 08:01 PM

Hmm I did use reverb, but very lightly and in small rooms because that way the bass from the synths don't drop out that much. Oh well. That's the prolem with trying to review pretty much any audio/song. Very little definite stuff you can point fingers at as "wrong". But thanks, means a lot. Will let you guys know if it does happen :)

 

Oh and here's the screenshot. It's actually a prettyy old song, so the way I organized is a little outdated lol.

 

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Ah, I can see that being a problem. I encounter stuff like that all the time where one sound drowns out everything. It's a pain to fix lol. This arrangement doesn't actually look all that unorganized to me. I mean on mine I just threw stuff down into the mix where ever I saw room XD



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 09:13 PM

Ah, I can see that being a problem. I encounter stuff like that all the time where one sound drowns out everything. It's a pain to fix lol. This arrangement doesn't actually look all that unorganized to me. I mean on mine I just threw stuff down into the mix where ever I saw room XD

lol a lot of people do that. i just don't because it gets frustrating to me to try and find the thing I'm trying to change. Even when I do organize I still end up spending way too much time trying to find stuff sue to big project size :s



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Posted 08 April 2015 - 01:58 AM


I liked that song Chaos.

 

Felt like calling some crappy people nearby me in life out today and verbally crushing their skulls beneath my boot, for being the soulless backstabbers they are.

A good thing I suppose, since it inspired me to try and finish up the master on that track I'm going to send to that label as an attempt to calm down. So here it is: :)

Can post a screenshot of the project file if you guys want as well.

 

It's nice but it's very empty. So here is some points I came up with ;)

 

1. Use the whole frequency band 20-20k.

 

2. More saturation on the basses could work wonders. Also some better waveforms for the basses would be nice. Kinda sounds like those synths that try to mimmick guitar sounds right now.

 

3. It's also a bit long for an electro track. Arrangement is very important.

 

4. Decrease the highs in the percussion but only in the side EQ not mid EQ. They will be sharp on some setups.

 

6. Maybe a longer tail on the snare? Right now it sounds like: thump ds thump ds. Its mostly style and preference but I think it should be more: thump dossss thump dosss

 

7. Could actually get some more brickwall

 

 

 

@Chaos ehh whateva just gibe the stems then xD


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Posted 09 April 2015 - 05:38 PM

*snip*

 

I really like where you're going with this. It's got some great ideas and sounds. But it really needs to be condensed, IMO. 8 minutes is a really long time to listen to one chord progression, or any electro song really. Looking at a song you really like and trying to somewhat copy its arrangement can really help. Also, I agree with Hinkik, it needs more stuff going on to fill in the empty frequencies. An arpeggiator can fill out some tonal stuff, and some white noise could give the highs more presence.


So do any of you guys like heavy dubstep? Cuz I do. :P So I tried making some.

 

 

Took me like two and a half hours... ;_;


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Posted 09 April 2015 - 05:47 PM

 

I liked that song Chaos.

 

Felt like calling some crappy people nearby me in life out today and verbally crushing their skulls beneath my boot, for being the soulless backstabbers they are.

A good thing I suppose, since it inspired me to try and finish up the master on that track I'm going to send to that label as an attempt to calm down. So here it is: :)

Can post a screenshot of the project file if you guys want as well.

 

It's nice but it's very empty. So here is some points I came up with ;)

 

1. Use the whole frequency band 20-20k.

 

2. More saturation on the basses could work wonders. Also some better waveforms for the basses would be nice. Kinda sounds like those synths that try to mimmick guitar sounds right now.

 

3. It's also a bit long for an electro track. Arrangement is very important.

 

4. Decrease the highs in the percussion but only in the side EQ not mid EQ. They will be sharp on some setups.

 

6. Maybe a longer tail on the snare? Right now it sounds like: thump ds thump ds. Its mostly style and preference but I think it should be more: thump dossss thump dosss

 

7. Could actually get some more brickwall

 

 

 

@Chaos ehh whateva just gibe the stems then xD

 

 

 

I really like where you're going with this. It's got some great ideas and sounds. But it really needs to be condensed, IMO. 8 minutes is a really long time to listen to one chord progression, or any electro song really. Looking at a song you really like and trying to somewhat copy its arrangement can really help. Also, I agree with Hinkik, it needs more stuff going on to fill in the empty frequencies. An arpeggiator can fill out some tonal stuff, and some white noise could give the highs more presence.


So do any of you guys like heavy dubstep? Cuz I do. :P So I tried making some.

 

 

Took me like two and a half hours... ;_;

So 'm pretty sure most of these things come down to my mastering, which is bollocks because this is only the second track I've ever really tried to master properly.Going to do some more research on that and try and fix it up before I submit.

Also I won't change the arrangement, though I might make a Radio Edit. I've done the intro, break, build, drop, bridge, build, drop, outro thing waaaaaay too many times, and am really bored of it at this point. I don't get any statisfaction rom making songs that way anymore it's much too formulaic.

Oh also it's not a snare at all, it's a snap/clap, and I like my claps very short :)

 

Also matrix that was a great sample. Kick is a little lost in the mix but since it's just a short hing you're doing doesn't really mater i guess lol

 

Also also: started working on a new track yesterday. Must've spent about half an hour, maybe more getting a good chord progression down. Started to build the song up for at least2 and a half hours. Clicked save annnnd...

My first ever corrupt file.

On the best chord progression I've ever made. Actually having trouble listening to music with similar elements now because it's "triggering" me.


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Posted 09 April 2015 - 07:04 PM

Jeez almost 3 hours for 13 seconds of music lol. If you were actually able to save your files, you would probably be getting promotion requests all the time XD


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