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#73432 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 20 April 2012 - 05:57 PM in The Café

There's nothing stopping us creating life in the long run, or course it'll be possible for us to do it eventually. Assuming that living creatures are physical structures, without a "life force" or some magical thing that makes living creatures special, then what makes it "impossible for humans to do" in the long run, as we become developed in nanotechnology etc?

There are plenty of things keeping us from it. And like I said it is just as hard as keeping people from dying. In fact there is almost no one researching the matter because some have mathematically proved it impossible. If creating life was so easy we would have done it or at least found a cure for cancer. There is no possibility humans can create life. And nanotechnology has nothing to offer in creating life because though they may work similarly they aren't made of the same materials. Creating life has so many problems that we are so far the only known planet to have ever had it. (Without the suspicion of Mars.)



#73428 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 20 April 2012 - 05:28 PM in The Café

You need to define thought, though. Thought can be just the firing of neurons in brains. Humans are essentially the same as computers, just carbon based rather than silicon.

Oh, and we have created organisms before, we have cloned animals and are capable of recreating certain extinct species.

We have not created animals we have simply raised them. You can't create any form of life from scratch at the moment because now even the simplest of all creatures can't be duplicated. And humans are somewhat similar to a computer but at he same time entirely different. A computer can never have its own point of view, morals, beliefs, or bias while a human can. This is what mentally seperates us from machine. But to get the mental gap fixed you have to fix the physical gap. Now a big problem is that in a circuit board you can't change anything or else you will jack it up. But in your brain things are constantly changing by forming connections to other cells. This is what causes you to think and get your personality. Now a circuit board can't magically for wire connections by itself. This is what I mean when I say you need an actual organism.

PS Recreating certaint species is only a matter of mutating genes and so far we are getting pretty close. And cloneing isn't creating for you simply take the Deoxyrobonucleicacid (20 points to whoever knows what that is) out of an egg cell and insert the selected DNA of the organism. We can't grow this in labs they actually have to be stored in a yuterus. So no this isn't creating life we are simply controlling it.

It's practically impossible at the moment, but we're getting there. As long as the organisms we create are safe, it really doesn't matter what religious groups think. And I personally don't think that all religions would disappear, for example in Bhuddism people don't necessarily have souls. I'm sure that would still wreck some religious organizations though, but only ones with their beliefs set in stone - like the Catholic thurch (but they're extremely currupt anyway so in my opinion that'd be a good thing).

We are not getting there. In fact we are so far away people still die. Dying and creating life will be both fixed at the same time. So just a little show of how hard this will be. You can't create life no matter what (at least we cant). This is the one thing that keeps religion possible. Creating life is just not possible for a human to do and we have to face that fact.



#73563 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 21 April 2012 - 07:46 AM in The Café

I like your avatar, and if they did do you think they will keep it secret or tell the public immediately.

lol! Well thanks! But even if they did create it in labs then why dont we know how our own brains work?



#73566 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 21 April 2012 - 07:56 AM in The Café

I'm not sure, but Mii might have been talking about iChells, inorganic cells made of metals. They aren't able to reproduce yet, but they can do some of the stuff that normal, organic cells can do. Look up iChells on google.

Okay, I looked em up! Well they aren't living organisms because of two things. A. In order to become a living thing you must be able to reproduce. If it cant do that it isnt an organism. B. they have no way to eliminate waste. If you can fix that then they are living organisms. It is kind of like saying Fire is an organism because it eats wood and makes smoke waste. Or it reproduces by growing and splitting. It is still an inanimate object.



#78157 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 13 May 2012 - 10:09 AM in The Café

Yeah but in order to obtain intelligence you need to have life.



#73398 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 20 April 2012 - 02:44 PM in The Café

When we get better at manipulating matter in the atomic realm, I'm sure we'll be able to create something from scratch that most people would consider alive.

Uh.... Just saying but that is practically impossible. Imagine how the Christians would feel. Creating life would practically destroy the religion and also it isn't quite physically possible because we know almost nothing of creating organisms. The closest we can get is growing them.

And PS I said nothing about emotions I was talking about thought.



#73626 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 21 April 2012 - 02:56 PM in The Café

I actually meant that they are able to take cells from someone, and create a twin of it from him. Has been testing this in labs with some sorts of animals already.

This is called cloning and it isn't creating life it is manipulating it.

No, you are taking this the wrong way. This is a philosophical argument.
Acceleration, gravity, science, none of those are possible to prove as we need human experience to observe them. Math is used in science to prove natural phenomena, but you must assume that what you experience is actually what is happening. It could all just be an illusion of the mind, as human sense are flawed (our observations are flawed).
Plus, it is impossible to ever account for causality and causation, as it is possible for anything to happen after a "cause".
The only thing that can ever be proven is "I think therefore I am."
Math is what your mind makes up to be true according to certain principles like 2+2=4. But even then, it brings in numbers impossible to use our world like repeating decimals and negative measurements.

But then you have to take in account that you could be an illusion and even if you think you may still just be an illusion. Also thinking proves nothing. It only makes you self aware of your own existence.



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Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 17 April 2012 - 03:29 PM in The Café

Technological singularity it truly impossible. You cant program a robot to do that no matter how long you try. Heck we can barely get a robot to play violin. In order to make a robot capable of thought isn't possible whatsoever. The only way to accomplish this is to actually create life. All robots are is circuits reacting and sending signals. Although this is similar to what the brain does, you cant accomplish this because a robot cant learn and adapt on its own or else it will have to rewrite all of its programming over again. People will have to have inhuman intelligence for this to happen. It just isnt possible.

Artificial intelligence is still intelligence - It's man-made intelligence, however crude it's been so far.

Artificial intelligence isn't true intelligence for it is only a bunch of numbers interacting with each other. It isnt thinking at all, its programing is just interacting.



#72831 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 17 April 2012 - 04:02 PM in The Café

In a more free perspective, artificial means man-made.  The strict technological definition for AI is a limited one, however, people can talk about it in philosophical terms as a simple man-made definition.  It being artificial can simply mean that man created the ancestor robot, but (I don't know how) its byproducts or new version created itself to become a truly intelligent being.

This is just interpretation of the word, though.

How about those androids and cyborgs?

Androids and cyborgs are completely different. Androids are completely robotic and man made while a cyborg doesnt exist yet and are considered actual living creatures. And what modern science tells us is that technological singualrity is nothing but a dream.



#73301 -

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 20 April 2012 - 02:46 AM in The Café

Which is well within our capabilities.  Besides, that is essentially a wire.  The inner wire is conductive, while the outer is insulation; its not too hard to modify that, ever hear of bionic body parts or stem cells?

I did but the problem is that it requires actual cells and you cant just create life.



#80461 Gray

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 24 May 2012 - 10:45 AM in Roleplay and Forum Games

Yeah it would be nice if this were revived! But at the moment I really need everyone to just reply already before I make my move. Maybe roleplays should all be pinned.



#82622 Gray

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 01 June 2012 - 05:45 PM in Roleplay and Forum Games

The police station is now just in front of him. He turns the doorknob slowly. When he opens it he sees the policemen surrounding him. He starts his dance of death by lighting a man on fire. They hesatate in a shocked state. "I love you policemen! You think you are actually helping the world! Oh how wrong can you get?" One of them draws a gun out so Gray quickly pulls out Black Blood to cut his arms to stubs. He gets an expression on his face. One that you can't tell of it is a frown or a wicked smile. Fire engulfs the station as it lights up with flames and screaming. "Life is hell!"



#65367 E3 WiiU controller

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 08 March 2012 - 03:32 AM in Wii U Hardware

Really all that I want is clickable sliders and a HD screen. Other than that I really dont see anything wrong with it!



#73400 Wii U MUST be next gen..

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 20 April 2012 - 02:50 PM in Wii U Hardware

I dont think it will be in last because at the rate Sony is going I think that the PS4 is and then the next Xbox will be the powerhouse with the Wii U comparably close to the PS4.



#84585 PS4 tech demo E3 2012... book it!

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 05 June 2012 - 03:22 PM in General Gaming

But how would Sony know beforehand that it would be inferior? And besides we have been confirmed that the Wii U is technologically superior to its competitors.



#84549 PS4 tech demo E3 2012... book it!

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 05 June 2012 - 01:59 PM in General Gaming

Obviously they didn't have to show it. Not one game for wii u looks close to level of graphics of ps3 best.

Uhhhh..... I dont know about you but ZombiU looked pretty good too....



#84534 PS4 tech demo E3 2012... book it!

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 05 June 2012 - 01:25 PM in General Gaming

Hey where is your PS4 now! WHERE IS IT! WHERE IS IT HUH?! :P



#82630 PS4 tech demo E3 2012... book it!

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 01 June 2012 - 06:18 PM in General Gaming

There wont be a PS4 at E3 this year. There might not even be one at all. This could very well be Sonys final E3. Anyone who has done abit of research will know Sony is in HUGE!!! trouble finacial wise.

They lost $6.4 Billion last year which is 1/3 of the entire Sony Companys worth. Sony said they predict that will happen again this year. Meaning in 2 years they lost 2/3 of their companies worth. If that happens they cannot recover. Sony Investors have lost all faith in Sony, not to mention Sony hasnt made a profit for 4 years in a row...

The Playstation 3 is still selling decently announcing a PS4 would cut the PS3 sales and people would wait for that. If they made the PS4 a powerhouse to destroy Wii U then it would be expensive as hell and would be a repeat of the PS3 launch. Sony would be shooting themselfs in the foot.

They need to MAKE money not shovel out more money to make a new console.

Also have you not heard that they plan on introducing IN GAME ADVERTISEMENTS! Your fighting a boss then all of a sudden an ad pops up. Your playing COD and your in a fight with someone all of a sudden on your screen you see "Catch the best romantic comedy of the summer" and a video starts playing...

Sony is in huge trouble currently THERE WILL NOT BE A PS4 THIS E3. They will focus heavily on Vita games. It will be a snooze fest again cause Sony people are like robots no personality.

Not to mention the heads of Sony and the Xbox division of microsoft have said numerous times WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW THIS E3 INVOLVING THE PS3's SUCCESSOR OR THE 360'S SUCCESSOR.

Finally someone who knows what they are talking about! And it does not matter if thy sell Vita's because they are selling it for a 60$ loss already! They need to sell software and name one good title other than uncharted!



#141002 The Fitness and Exercise Thread

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 30 November 2012 - 12:05 PM in The Café

Do you work out your entire core? (Triceps, Back, Legs)

Yeah I do. I do allot of wall sits and squats. Pull ups are essential when preparing for wrestling and my book bag for school is a work out in itself. Anyways yeah I try to exercise everything so that I have no weakness when I do go into wrestling competitions.



#141011 The Fitness and Exercise Thread

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 30 November 2012 - 12:28 PM in The Café

I see.

How many days of the week do you exercise? I go to the gym about four days out of the week. Also, do you use the power rack or the smith machine? Also what does you your diet consist of? Lean meats, vegetables, whole wheat, fish, fruits, and brown rice?

Sorry for all the questions.

It is alright. I exercise about five times a day but I rarely ever use a gym because I simply don't need one. All you really need to get the proper work out is gravity. I do those basic push ups and sit ups. I was actually sent to boot camp for being too fat -_-. But anyways that is when I picked up my exercise. Like I said I rarely go to gyms because I can still work out just as effectively without one. My diet is mainly vegetables with little sugar because it burns too fast. I am Chinese so I eat few meats and contrary to popular belief you dont really need to eat many meats at all when working out. Vegetables can give you close to the same nutrients but without the fat. In the long run you have allot more energy. (Trust me I used to be a fast food junkie) Fish is always good and so is chicken but I try to avoid red meats although things like livers, intestine, blood, and hearts is great for you! Anyways that is pretty much me and the way I do things and it is working out great! How do you work out?



#140443 The Fitness and Exercise Thread

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 29 November 2012 - 11:48 AM in The Café

Same here it is kinda surprising to me too now that you bring it up! I exercise too. Mainly for wrestling. I have become very fond of it and good at it as well. I am very strong and I am proud of it. I exercise daily to keep it up and I have biceps the size of most people's thighs lol.



#64011 Things that annoy you about the internet.

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 28 February 2012 - 12:39 PM in The Café

Your computer isn't the Internet, mate. :D

Or is it!? :ph34r:

Thee Things I hate about the internet. I wasnt really asking you.



#63603 Things that annoy you about the internet.

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 26 February 2012 - 05:45 AM in The Café

I hate three things on the internet:
1. Trolls
2. Racism
3. My slow computer



#84501 Ubisoft's ZombieU

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 05 June 2012 - 11:56 AM in Wii U Games and Software

This game looks really cool and I cant wait until it comes out! I really would like to see this game on the Wii U. I am not so sure if the graphics are truly next gen.



#137625 Wii Mini

Posted by HaoSenVastForest on 24 November 2012 - 04:50 PM in General Gaming

The Wii is small enough....




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