"Hello there Dean good to see you!" He lowers the gun. "If you want come on in!" He puts the gun away and where it belong. "So is your living quarters around here?"

"Well nothing much. Today is my first day. Hey what time do classes start and what do we learn here?" Vacili asks. He gets off the bed and yawns. "Man in Russia I would be asleep by now. I am having trouble adjusting to the time."

"Sure you can! This is the German MP44 which is recoil operated and has a nice 520 RPM. It stands for Machine Pistol 1944 although the name suggests it is a handgun it is actually one of the first assault rifles ever made!" he says as he hands over the rifle. "It's okay I think I have the safety on."

"Sydney I am going to make you sparkle. Do you like that? Oh yeah I will do it harder. Oh your a dirty one aren't ya?" (Evedentally he is cleaning his guns) "I promis no one will so much as touch you." he sets up the traps and leaves all the guns in the dorm exept Bessy the handgin as he jumps out the window. He takes out a map and looks for the cafeteria. He has no money so he pulls out Bessy and shoots in the air yelling "BRING OUT THE SANDWITCHES AND A BOTTLE OF VODKA!" one of the cafeteria staff does exactly that and he takes his lunch calmly. "I apologize for I will pay you back three days from now." Everyone is staring as he looks for a table to sit at. He eventually finds one and sits.

"WELL SHOW ME THE LAW THAT SAYS I CANT BRING IN A FIREARM IN HERE! YOU CANT TAKE BESSY AWAY FROM MEH!!!" (He named his Glock 19 Bessy). He quickly pulled them back. "DONT TOUCH BESSY, SABATIAN, SEAN, SALLY, MARRY....." (list goes on and on) He runs away with a trail of flame behind him.

"Well I too grew up in a rough area but at least we had a home. No one knew about my gift and not even myself did. I had a little sister and we were facing a situation on where we had to orphan her. I grew angry, so angry with my parents I burned down the house by accident. I tried so hard to stop the fire from burning but I couldn't. I killed them all that night." A tear started to trickle down his face. "Well sorry to keep you here it is already night and I need to go to bed. Well see you tomorrow!" He says as he closes the door and goes to sleep even though Cy is still awake.

It is morning and Vacili is still tired. He gets up out of his bed and dresses himself. He exits the dorm room . "Now what?" he mumbles to himself.

Vacili having the ability of fire did the same to both tentacles. When the slime came off another the takes out a Browning 1919 .30 cal AA gun. He uses his fire to blast him into the air. He then opens fire at one of the heads. "Well two down one to go! He he he.... Ha ha ha. HA HA HA!!! BWAH HA HA HA HA HA!!!" He just bursts out laughing. "HE HAD HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" He gets a a strange face. Is it a smile or a frown?

"Okay..."  Vacili decides to light the thing up and sure enough after a while the slime just start to evaporate with the heat. "Well I am going to guess that means he is now vulnerable!?" Vacili cools down and stops flaming on the thing.

"OH SHIZNIT!" yelled Vacili "WE NEED THE BIG GUNS!" he pulls out a LAW (Light antitank weapon) and blasts the fudge ripples out of the thing. When the smoke clears it doesn't seem to have done a single thing to it. "YOU MAKE ME MAD!!! THAT ANTITANK ROUND COSTED 400$!" he gets furious and starts to light on fire. He blasts it a few times and notices. "Guys I can't go through these scales!"

The bear quickly charges after Vacili and he pulls out Sabatian the M16 with M203 Grenade launcher and blows the thing to smithereens. John looked shocked. "BRAVO! You did exactly what I told you. Prepare for the worst and you did just that. 87%!" Vacili just replies with "A wise man once said 'Prepare for the worst; hope for the best.'" He puts the assault rifle somewhere in his jacket.

"May as well get started with unpacking." He unzips the bags and out comes a boat load of weapons, AK47, M14, MP44, SCAR, M72LAW, Seiga, this list continues but he thought it would be a good idea to bring all the stuff along because the letter did say he would face allot of challenges. (He is also kinda paranoid) He sets up traps and wiretaps around the room and holsters a handgun in his pocket. "I am going to go crazy if I stay in this room for too long." He smiles and heads out of the room. He wanders around campus some more and then finds the same group of people that he met up with earlier.

"Thanks" As Vacili walks through campus he notices how infinitely vast it is. Everything is green with flowers everywhere. As they make it to the dorm it was pretty small. However it didnt disappoint him because he was used to living in small quarters. The room had one bed and four walls but that was it. He quickly put down his bags and started to unpack.

Seems interesting...

Name: Vacili Zestav (20 points who knows who this dude is)
Physical Description: A tall man who is well built and has jet black hair. His eyes are like coals straight from a fire. He is still in his youthful age despite his appearance. He likes to wear plain cloths with solid colors.
Personality: Very kind and has a warm and welcoming felling when people are around him. He doesn't like to yell allot. However don't get this dude mad or he really will just blow up at you and try his best to destroy you.
Gifted Powers: He long has been able to control fire. He has little control over it however because they are controlled by his emotions. The stronger the feeling the stronger the flame.

Background: Vacili was a boy born in Russia. He was not a very rich child and was just making it by. One day he was very mad at his parents because they were fighting over his little sister. They wanted to send her to an orphanage because the family didn't have the money to support another growing kid. He got extremely angry. So not knowing what he was doing he burnt the house down and everyone in it. Then as he was sobbing on the streets one day begging for spare cash a man dropped a paper into his lap and said "Here this should be what you need". It was an application to go to a school.
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Vacili arrived at the school campus and found a group forming. "Hello I come from the motherland! Can anyone help me? I am new here and I am already lost. I was told to go to dorm number 368 can anyone give me directions?"

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Tell me who has supposedly "mathematically proved it's impossible".

A lot of people are working on it, and many believe that they'll eventually cure aging.

Creating life definitely won't be easy, that's why we have professional scientists working on it.

Nanotechnology isn't only concerned with nanobots, it's about everything that's extremely small XD Having said that, we could use Nanobots to build actual cells.

A cure for cancer and extending life are linked together because cancer cells are actually normal cells that have become biologically immortal, they just keep multiplying and refuse to self destruct. We've created a "miracle drug" (I forgot what it's called, I think it starts with the letter c) that can actually reverse aging. The problem is that it causes cancer too, sometimes the new cells mutate and become cancer cells. If we had a way to quickly defeat the cancer cells, say nanobots or something, the aging would essentially be cured.


On a side note, (since you mentioned Mars) it's kind of interesting because some scientists think that earth's primordial cells could've actually come developed on Mars (when it had an atmosphere) and come to earth on an asteroid o-0

Your "cure" for aging actually causes more problems than it cures. And it is actually renforcing what is known as FOX-0. This is what maintains your body like a janitor at school. The problem is it is more of a bandage than a cure. You will still age but very slowly. You can averagely live 100 years. Also cancer isnt that indestructible as you depicted. For it is only a DNA mutation when the cells split that causes an information strand to go bad (similar to mad cow) and when this cell reproduces it creates other mutated cells. Normally this information strand causes it to kill off other cells. And with your creating life idea it isn't possible because it took 6 million years for the earth under the best possible scenarios to make single celled organisms according to one theory. What makes you think we can do it while our race still exists? And besides after 5000 years worth of research we dont even know fully how our own bodies work. So how in the fudge can we all of a sudden create any life at all? It just doesn't add up. And even if we do create life, technological singularity isn't really technological, more of biological singularity. At this point I think I can safely say technological singularity is just science fiction.

I'm calling BS on that, humans are not programed to die. There are scientists, right now, working on ways to prevent the deterioration of the body as it ages.

One more thing, math can never be applied to an imperfect world.

Well here is the thing that dude who mathematically proved it impossible was my dad. And the deteriation of the body like I said can only slow it down. Aging is inevitable no matter how hard you try there is nothing in this world that doesn't age. And math just saying has and can prove practically anything. This includes things like what we call beauty. (1.68 is the exact number) and actually humans are litterally programmed to die. There is a certain prosses implanted in your brain that helps shut down your body as you are dying. And if that were true tha you aren't the why are there suicides?

There's nothing stopping us creating life in the long run, or course it'll be possible for us to do it eventually. Assuming that living creatures are physical structures, without a "life force" or some magical thing that makes living creatures special, then what makes it "impossible for humans to do" in the long run, as we become developed in nanotechnology etc?

There are plenty of things keeping us from it. And like I said it is just as hard as keeping people from dying. In fact there is almost no one researching the matter because some have mathematically proved it impossible. If creating life was so easy we would have done it or at least found a cure for cancer. There is no possibility humans can create life. And nanotechnology has nothing to offer in creating life because though they may work similarly they aren't made of the same materials. Creating life has so many problems that we are so far the only known planet to have ever had it. (Without the suspicion of Mars.)

You need to define thought, though. Thought can be just the firing of neurons in brains. Humans are essentially the same as computers, just carbon based rather than silicon.

Oh, and we have created organisms before, we have cloned animals and are capable of recreating certain extinct species.

We have not created animals we have simply raised them. You can't create any form of life from scratch at the moment because now even the simplest of all creatures can't be duplicated. And humans are somewhat similar to a computer but at he same time entirely different. A computer can never have its own point of view, morals, beliefs, or bias while a human can. This is what mentally seperates us from machine. But to get the mental gap fixed you have to fix the physical gap. Now a big problem is that in a circuit board you can't change anything or else you will jack it up. But in your brain things are constantly changing by forming connections to other cells. This is what causes you to think and get your personality. Now a circuit board can't magically for wire connections by itself. This is what I mean when I say you need an actual organism.

PS Recreating certaint species is only a matter of mutating genes and so far we are getting pretty close. And cloneing isn't creating for you simply take the Deoxyrobonucleicacid (20 points to whoever knows what that is) out of an egg cell and insert the selected DNA of the organism. We can't grow this in labs they actually have to be stored in a yuterus. So no this isn't creating life we are simply controlling it.

It's practically impossible at the moment, but we're getting there. As long as the organisms we create are safe, it really doesn't matter what religious groups think. And I personally don't think that all religions would disappear, for example in Bhuddism people don't necessarily have souls. I'm sure that would still wreck some religious organizations though, but only ones with their beliefs set in stone - like the Catholic thurch (but they're extremely currupt anyway so in my opinion that'd be a good thing).

We are not getting there. In fact we are so far away people still die. Dying and creating life will be both fixed at the same time. So just a little show of how hard this will be. You can't create life no matter what (at least we cant). This is the one thing that keeps religion possible. Creating life is just not possible for a human to do and we have to face that fact.

Math is not the objective reality, it is something to back up science. Math alone is useless.
Age is inevitable, but that is the fragility of the human body. As we die, through evolution, we have ways by dealing with death. But we are not programmed to die.
As for suicides, that is a subjective argument, as the choice to die isn't predetermined by evolution.

One thing, though, you are dealing with someone who is a subjectivist, so any argument about math(without science) will end in a stalemate when I bring up Hume or Nietzschean ideals..

Okay now you are trying to argue with human neurology. The brain is programmed to kill itself and self destruct when the body is rendured useless. This is a fact. You are built to live, adapt, and die and not much else. And not to be rude but you were just using a circular reasoning fallacy.

A computer won't even know what he's doing. He won't learn anything, which clearly is a part it has to have to talk about intelligence. AI is just a bad word for "Complex user input based output system".

Yes but the memory required to learn is just too much. You will end up with needing much more than 1000 TB. Modern computers normally have no more than 2 TB. It will be a very big feat of engineering.

Also it would be kinda impossible to create emotion because the human brain cant even do that without the help of chemicals and hormones.

If you change the DNA of the clone you can create new life. Both stuff have been done before, just not together yet.

You are still only manipulating it and we are only able to change the genes.

Yeah but in order to obtain intelligence you need to have life.

If you change the genes you change the DNA.

Genes=Sticks of infomation
Sticks of information=Deoxyribonucleicacid
Deoxyribonucleicacid=DNA

Genes and DNA are pretty much the same it is just that Genes are made of DNA. So still my argument stands. No one has created life (Maybe with the exception of a god if he exists).

In a more free perspective, artificial means man-made. The strict technological definition for AI is a limited one, however, people can talk about it in philosophical terms as a simple man-made definition. It being artificial can simply mean that man created the ancestor robot, but (I don't know how) its byproducts or new version created itself to become a truly intelligent being.

This is just interpretation of the word, though.

How about those androids and cyborgs?

Androids and cyborgs are completely different. Androids are completely robotic and man made while a cyborg doesnt exist yet and are considered actual living creatures. And what modern science tells us is that technological singualrity is nothing but a dream.

I actually meant that they are able to take cells from someone, and create a twin of it from him. Has been testing this in labs with some sorts of animals already.

This is called cloning and it isn't creating life it is manipulating it.

No, you are taking this the wrong way. This is a philosophical argument.
Acceleration, gravity, science, none of those are possible to prove as we need human experience to observe them. Math is used in science to prove natural phenomena, but you must assume that what you experience is actually what is happening. It could all just be an illusion of the mind, as human sense are flawed (our observations are flawed).
Plus, it is impossible to ever account for causality and causation, as it is possible for anything to happen after a "cause".
The only thing that can ever be proven is "I think therefore I am."
Math is what your mind makes up to be true according to certain principles like 2+2=4. But even then, it brings in numbers impossible to use our world like repeating decimals and negative measurements.

But then you have to take in account that you could be an illusion and even if you think you may still just be an illusion. Also thinking proves nothing. It only makes you self aware of your own existence.