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#1 Dragon

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:40 AM

They are the devs behind the Just Cause series:

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I was hoping to see JC3 on Wii U. :/


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:47 AM

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kinda dumb, why get a Wii U Dev kit if you're not going to use it.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:49 AM

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At this point i've lost all hope on western devs, Hopefully Japanese devs like Capcom, Namco and Sqaure Enix are still on board.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:23 AM

Well let's not blame it all on them. If they say they are trying to reach out and can't get in contact with Nintendo. I'm sure we won't hear anything on this and Nintendo will remain silent. I think Nintendo has gone all in on indies 1st parties and whatever 3rd party (platinum games) they can convince to make a game for Wii U.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:29 AM

In the article is says " the install base is too small " , then it says " nintendo is hard to contact " . So which excuse is it? Surely, if you think the install base is too small you would not bother contacting them.  Or was it, they tried contacting them only to realize the install base was too small.. ? 

 

LOL . Check out the gif below.. the baby would be the Wii U (since it's still new, young) and Mr. Bean represents the publishers who make excuses to no end seemingly trying to rub it in to wii u owners.

 

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:39 AM

In the article is says " the install base is too small " , then it says " nintendo is hard to contact " . So which excuse is it? Surely, if you think the install base is too small you would not bother contacting them.  Or was it, they tried contacting them only to realize the install base was too small.. ? 
 
LOL . Check out the gif below.. the baby would be the Wii U (since it's still new, young) and Mr. Bean represents the publishers who make excuses to no end seemingly trying to rub it in to wii u owners.
 
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You obviously haven't considered both of them might be true. None of us have an insight into any of these developers and publishers. They obviously have their reasons for not supporting the Wii U and that is a business decision they have made.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:52 AM

You obviously haven't considered both of them might be true. None of us have an insight into any of these developers and publishers. They obviously have their reasons for not supporting the Wii U and that is a business decision they have made.

Whats interesting about it is that Precursor claim they have been in constant contact with Nintendo, and they don't have a publisher, and are using crowdfunding.  Other developers are tweeting every day that they are now licensed Nintendo developers.  I doubt very seriously they've put much effort into contacting Nintendo.  The install base excuse doesn't really fly either, they obviously already have dev units, and they obviously already are licensed to develop for Wii U, that's a big investment to stop developing on the console because "the user base is too small" when PS4 and XBOX have exactly 0 users.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 11:37 AM

better than other excuses i have heard, but it loses liability if you consider PS4/nextbox



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:24 PM

Sounds like they want Nintendo to cough up for funding perhaps in the same way as Lego Undercover. The userbase is too small so they can't fund themselves but would like to develop for wii u. If they did get a free development kit from Nintendo then I guess their reasoning is that currently they can't make use of it. Just Cause isn't a game series I care about I must admit.

 

I suspect when Nintendo gave out the development kits they were hopeing that developers that received one would knock out a game or two.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:42 PM

Sounds like they want Nintendo to cough up for funding perhaps in the same way as Lego Undercover. The userbase is too small so they can't fund themselves but would like to develop for wii u. If they did get a free development kit from Nintendo then I guess their reasoning is that currently they can't make use of it. Just Cause isn't a game series I care about I must admit.

 

I suspect when Nintendo gave out the development kits they were hopeing that developers that received one would knock out a game or two.

The developers that did receive dev units were given them on good faith that they would release a game to the eshop.  Just Cause is published by Eidos and Sqaure Enix, they wouldn't have been given free dev units, they invested in them.  Funding wouldn't be an issue here, and other developers, Straight Right comes to mind, that are developing published titles didn't seem to have a problem communicating with Nintendo.  Neither have any of the indies that have approached them.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:39 PM

Aww I liked JC2. D:



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:27 PM

Well.....this certainly sucks.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 11:24 PM

Perhaps they will change their mind after E3, highly doubt it though.

At least they aren't pulling an EA.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:28 AM

I think I'm going to have to start ignoring Nintendo 3rd party news at this point.  I think I'll stick to articles about the 1st party games because the 3rd party stuff is getting worse than I ever thought it could get.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:06 AM

Avalanche is a small swedish studio with not much to say until a publisher gives them the right to do so. 



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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:48 AM

I think I'm going to have to start ignoring Nintendo 3rd party news at this point. I think I'll stick to articles about the 1st party games because the 3rd party stuff is getting worse than I ever thought it could get.


There is a lot of great 3rd party news if you are even paying attention to more than just doom articles and threads. You can blame yourself for your false perception of the current situation

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:36 AM

There is a lot of great 3rd party news if you are even paying attention to more than just doom articles and threads. You can blame yourself for your false perception of the current situation

 

Is that so?  I have a google search that I use every couple of days........

 

https://www.google.c...iw=1280&bih=909

 

 

You can basically scan through the first 10 pages of results and unless it's news about smartphone games ending up on WiiU, CoD:Ghost, or Ubisoft games you will find very few feel good stories man.  Of course there is a spattering of games making their way to Wii U, but when I am going to end up with FIFA 14 on PC instead of playing it on my game pad that pretty much sets the tone.  I'm not getting joy out of this reality like many on the web seem to be, but I'm not going to push it under the rug either.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:43 AM

Is that so?  I have a google search that I use every couple of days........

 

https://www.google.c...iw=1280&bih=909

 

 

You can basically scan through the first 10 pages of results and unless it's news about smartphone games ending up on WiiU, CoD:Ghost, or Ubisoft games you will find very few feel good stories man.  Of course there is a spattering of games making their way to Wii U, but when I am going to end up with FIFA 14 on PC instead of playing it on my game pad that pretty much sets the tone.

 

That's because it's the media, doing what they do best. Many of those stories are based off a simple tweet from the one developer or publisher who said Frostbite 3 engine cannot or was not running well on Wii U. So bloggers and news sites picked this up and wrote a story about it. Many of the stories running on the popular tech and gaming sites are from that simple tweet which was twisted and taken out of context which happens way too often. These "reporters" are so quick to release a story of bad news just to get hits instead of doing a bit more research to understand things.

 

The other bit of news appearing lately was the developer saying the Wii U is collecting dust and the excuses were, small install base and it was hard contacting Nintendo.

 

It's a users job to read and research to get a more in depth view as to what is really going on. These articles make it seem like the Wii U is getting no 3rd party games, and that of course is no where near the truth.

 

In the minds of many in the "news" world, it isn't a story unless you can find something bad or negative within it. Much of the time bad news trumps good news.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 09:13 AM

That's because it's the media, doing what they do best. Many of those stories are based off a simple tweet from the one developer or publisher who said Frostbite 3 engine cannot or was not running well on Wii U. So bloggers and news sites picked this up and wrote a story about it. Many of the stories running on the popular tech and gaming sites are from that simple tweet which was twisted and taken out of context which happens way too often. These "reporters" are so quick to release a story of bad news just to get hits instead of doing a bit more research to understand things.

 

The other bit of news appearing lately was the developer saying the Wii U is collecting dust and the excuses were, small install base and it was hard contacting Nintendo.

 

It's a users job to read and research to get a more in depth view as to what is really going on. These articles make it seem like the Wii U is getting no 3rd party games, and that of course is no where near the truth.

 

In the minds of many in the "news" world, it isn't a story unless you can find something bad or negative within it. Much of the time bad news trumps good news.

 

I know the reality of the situation, and just like the past couple console generations I'm going to be able to find third party stuff that is catered to the Nintendo experience.  I'm certainly not Daisying about getting games like Lego City, Bayonetta, and Wonderful 101.  Those are awesome games that I would have never wanted to miss out on.  I guess before I bought my Wii U I was really hoping that the recent trend would stop and I could just use my Nintendo machine for Nintendo exclusives and the very few "big games" that I enjoy.  I can't stand EA, but I will never be able to give up my yearly FIFA game....I guess that news really took it's toll on me. 


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 09:16 AM

I know the reality of the situation, and just like the past couple console generations I'm going to be able to find third party stuff that is catered to the Nintendo experience.  I'm certainly not mother doging about getting games like Lego City, Bayonetta, and Wonderful 101.  Those are awesome games that I would have never wanted to miss out on.  I guess before I bought my Wii U I was really hoping that the recent trend would stop and I could just use my Nintendo machine for Nintendo exclusives and the very few "big games" that I enjoy.  I can't stand EA, but I will never be able to give up my yearly FIFA game....I guess that news really took it's toll on me. 

I understand and agree with you, I am a Fifa fan myself. Grew up playing soccer as a kid and loved the fifa games on my genesis. I am looking forward to Bayonetta and Wonderful 101, and Pikimin 3..., plus others. I think in a year or so the Wii U Library of games will be on par with the 3DS, and that little handheld has an impressive list of GREAT games.


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