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[SoldMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

NO.

[Socalmuscle]

I remember the days when people would buy a system they wanted the games on rather than buy a different system and wish they had the games on it...

 

LOL

 

Good point.

[Alex Wolfers]

I'm not so sure that would benefit Nintendo. When the Nokia N-Gage came out, things didn't go too well for it. I don't know... maybe that's a bad example though.

If they decided to make cell phone games as well it would most likely be a loss in the long run. They should stick to their guns.

[Socalmuscle]

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

[Alex Wolfers]

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

TBH I don't think graphics are going to be a huge factor in the 8th Gen console wars. I'm putting my money on IP's and innovation.

[NintendoReport]

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

 

printing this out and framing it. great posting. 

[Socalmuscle]

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Edited by Socalmuscle, 05 June 2013 - 11:58 AM.

[Alex Wolfers]

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

On a second note still a great and valid point.

[Guy Fieri]

So why is this guy not saying that Uncharted should be on the Xbox One, and that Halo should be on the PS4? Oh yeah, because Nintendo's always the one getting nitpicked.

[Mushlikeahusky1]

Mario fps now on xbro one!

[Socalmuscle]

So why is this guy not saying that Uncharted should be on the Xbox One, and that Halo should be on the PS4? Oh yeah, because Nintendo's always the one getting nitpicked.

 

Exactly.  Great point.

[TheDoritoKing]

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

Nintendo makes great hardware AND great software.

 

they have always been at the high end of specifications as well with their systems (for mainstream consoles with viable economic success). You have had the CDi, the Jaguar, the Matsurainbowa console, the various things out there that could do the same things (sometiems better, sometimes not (see Jaguar), but weren't focused devices.

 

With mainstream consoles such as NES, Master System, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, Saturn, N64, PS2, Xbox, GCN... Nintendo was always the most powerful (See SNES, N64) or tied for most powerful (NES, GCN, Xbox) until the Wii, which was the first console overseen by Iwata. 

 

The Wii was underpowered and used last generation hardware to compete in a casual market, forgoing the traditional market it had catered to for decades.  In terms of sales, it worked.  the Wii was the clear winner of the last generation.  In terms of what people thought about Nintendo... it was a disaster.  

 

Basically, a company that innovated in 3D graphics (SNES Starfox, SGI/N64 with AA,Mip-mapping, etc), pioneered the use of analog control in console 3D games, made motion controls a realistic household commodity, made legitimate dual screen gaming work flawlessly, the efficient and intelligent creation of RAM layouts that outperformed their spec and size, and basically has been known as an innovative technical powerhouse (even the ArtX tech in the Gamecube impressed ATI enough to buy it)... has been completely forgotten and now all of a sudden they are a silly little company that cannot compete with the "big boys" on a technical level.

 

The sad pathetic truth is the "big boys" aren't making their own stuff.  they are buying off the shelf parts and customizing them to an unknown degree.  While Nintendo is doing the same, they have customized their hardware to the nth degree, basically taking commodity hardware and working with the hardware creators to combine, customize, and refine the hardware into a seamless perfect system, that has everything working together like a true embedded system.

 

while Sony and MS have done similar things, they also seem to have taken a cue from Nintendo in terms of architecture and layout.

 

People tend to forget that the reason Nintendo games are always so amazing, where it be graphically (pre Wii era Mario 64, Rare games, Starfox), gameplay (see just about all Nintendo games - much of the gameplay was possible due to Nintendo hardware that was not available anywhere else on console-analog stick, Z trigger, etc.)

 

Nintendo makes hardware that makes their games possible.  If there was no Nintendo hardware, then there games would be at a loss.  They might still end up the best games out there, but they wouldn't exhibit the greatness that is made possible by full control of the hardware AND software experience. For another example of why hardware and software being made by the same company is a good thing, see Apple Inc.

 

Nintendo is a high tech company.  they make high tech hardware and some of the best software around.

 

The only time they skimped on hardware was with the risky Wii system.  The Wii U is a very powerful system for what it costs.

 

Simply put... glorious. Nintendo uses the knowledge of their own hardware to squeeze every last drop of potential out of it; third parties have to dumb their games down to work on all hardware. Obviously this gives Nintendo a generous advantage when it comes to their own turf. For some reason Nintendo always does something to get everyone else pointing and laughing at them: "Oh look, Mortal Kombat doesn't have blood!", "The Nintendo 64 doesn't have CDs, that's so gay!" (note: the idiots that mock the 64 are the same ones who use gay as an insult), "The Gamecube can't play movies, it sucks!", "The Wii doesn't have HD, it's just a kid's toy!". As much as we try to ignore them, they just won't shut up. 

[ManchesterBlack]

OH YES because thats what Nintendo wants to do, help the competition! This guy is an idiot