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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:00 AM

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Nintendo president Satoru Iwata made a few comments earlier this year suggesting that he could resign if the company continued to experience poor sales performances. Iwata never actually used the word “resign”, but his remarks pointed in that direction somewhat – and the Japanese media also pointed to the possibility of Iwata stepping down.

But no need to worry: it doesn’t sound like Iwata has any intentions to resign.

During the company’s latest investor’s meeting, someone asked the CEO directly if he would leave if Nintendo is unable to reach his “commitment” to hit a business profit goal of ¥100 billion.

Iwata responded: “I don’t recall saying I’d resign.” He also said that Nintendo should be focusing on achieving its goal rather than concentrating on failure.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:07 AM

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He might have made mistakes but he`s strategy, on the long run, is good.

To me he`s biggest mistake was letting the same mistakes that plagued the 3DS launch, repeat themselves with Wii U. But at least, one of them is getting corrected: the lack of games due to lack of resources is being corrected with the recente and future increase of staff.


 

 


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:32 AM

He might have made mistakes but he`s strategy, on the long run, is good.
To me he`s biggest mistake was letting the same mistakes that plagued the 3DS launch, repeat themselves with Wii U. But at least, one of them is getting corrected: the lack of games due to lack of resources is being corrected with the recente and future increase of staff.


A bigger mistake, that lead to that one, is not giving enough time between launches to make course adjustments. All they needed was an extra year. Either should have pushed back the Wii U launch, or they should have launched the 3DS earlier.

But, as you said, the mistake is being corrected as we speak.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:54 AM

A bigger mistake, that lead to that one, is not giving enough time between launches to make course adjustments. All they needed was an extra year. Either should have pushed back the Wii U launch, or they should have launched the 3DS earlier.

But, as you said, the mistake is being corrected as we speak.

I agree with the bolded.

They came unprepared because the company wasn`t ready for the launch and because of that, Wii U sales are suffering.


 

 


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:45 AM

I agree with the bolded.
They came unprepared because the company wasn`t ready for the launch and because of that, Wii U sales are suffering.


Except they are basically launching the Wii u this year, just with a few million units of cushion over the competitors

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:57 AM

Eh, I'll wait until he does something worth wild then I'll judge on this.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:28 PM

Except they are basically launching the Wii u this year, just with a few million units of cushion over the competitors

 

Even if they did an actual re-launch, the damage is done and it has been hurting Wii U since early this year.

I hope that from Pikmin 3 onwards, there is a steady release of titles from both 1st party and 3rd party and that sales do pick up, otherwise, this cushion isn`t going to help them in the long run.


 

 


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 05:23 PM

A bigger mistake, that lead to that one, is not giving enough time between launches to make course adjustments. All they needed was an extra year. Either should have pushed back the Wii U launch, or they should have launched the 3DS earlier.

But, as you said, the mistake is being corrected as we speak.

 

I agree as well with pushing back the Wii U launch. 



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:28 PM

Iwata has no plans of resigning

 

That's a shame.......



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:26 PM

Iwatas only mistake has been operating in a comfort zone for too long.

But he's a fresh thinker and he's willing and able to grow.

He's a bit stretched right now, but still laser focused. Admirable qualities.

With the advent of Wii u, he has led Nintendo to create an unprecedented console a "large screen" gamepad, with zero lag, a very capable console in terms of graphical chops, an entire, brand new and extremely robust social network, a tv integrated service, an application platform operating system, created an entire online ecosystem infrastructure, honed in on a fresh way of communicating directly to fans with animate do Directs, which he also takes personal time out to host, set up a fairly unique deal with best buy to play E3 games still in development, etc.

He is old school and that hampers him a bit, but he's fluid, meaning he rolls with the times and reaches for something greater.

Some of the guys around him could stand to learn a thing or two from him. Miyamoto especially. He's too wrapped up on what made him successful. He hasn't shown a desire to grow or expand his horizons since the original Pikmin a couple of generations ago. His recent critical comments at e3 about not seeing games her like to have made was meant as criticism of competitors. But in reality, it shows that he may be a little out of touch with what people are looking for. There are no doubt many developers who are looking at his games now and thinking that they would not have like to mske them. Miyamoto is a legend. But sometimes he is a roadblock.

Then there is Reggie. Regime is a salesman. He's not really wired to be a CEO. He's a jive talker. That what he does best. But it's not what Nintendo needs. Nintendo needs to be brutally honest with themselves and follow iwatas lead in terms if transparency and pushing beyond comfort zones for greatness. Reggie first became known in a big way with one of the most amazing intro films ever introducing the Wii. This amazing highlight film played, reminding everyone why Nintendo is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room, not Microsoft or Sony. And then Reggie started doing his thing: talking. Taking about kicking butts and taking names, blah blah blah... Right before brainwashing Nintendo fans into accepting another GameCube for the second generation in a row, but now with more waggle.
That's what Reggie does. It's almost embarrassing when he's asked legitimate questions by press. He almost never answers the question and just goes off into spin mode beating around the bush before finally arriving at a non answer. Often, the press seem a bit irritated and rightly so. Then there is the matter of him seeking more preoccupied with his own importance than to really push for growth on nintendos part. Iwata seems to have a head on Reggie and where his weaknesses are. That's why he has assumed many of Reggie's duties. That's a good thing. But Reggie is probably on his way out. NOA. Needs someone with aggressive vision to grow and stake claim in new territory. Not to simply talk big while metely protecting the little they have. There might be a place for Reggie. But not as president or CEO.

These are the big three at the big N.

Iwata is agile. He will lead the company onward and do it well. He hasn't always been. But recently he's showing himself to be a humble visionary. Miyamoto needs to pick up on the humility part a little more cryengine he will be able to care less about his status and more about the next great thing.

Reggie... Idk. He is what he is. He will be an asset where jive talk is needed, but little else.

The Wii u generation is a new Nintendo. It's an aggressive Nintendo that is pushing hardware power with software and hardware innovation at an impressive rate. Lets not forget Nintendo is playing catch up here. Me and Sony have bad a couple generations to learn. Nintendo is catching up very quickly though with all the infrastructure investments they've made.

This is a generation of transition which marks a new era for Nintendo. The foundations are being laid for now and the future.

Though the Wii U is not doing as well as hoped right now, it will pick up. And it's the springboard for a much more agile, robust, innovative, bigger, more powerful, and more developer-friendly Nintendo.

When you don't just look at current Wii I sales numbers, but look at what's actually taking place, it's all extremely encouraging.

Nintendo could so the exact same things ms and Sony did. They can buy gddr5 ram, they can buy an APU from AMD. But they built the Wii u. Because that's what they thought was best.

It was a choice. And it was a good one. But they has third parties go back on their word, hurting sales since there were no games. We've seen the first round of Wii u specific games at e3 and they look phenomenal. Some of the best graphics out there.

So iwata doesn't need to step down. He's lathing a new foundation. When you do that, you don't see a house yet. But the broader the foundation, the bigger the house. And the firmer the foundation, the better chance it has to withstand the trials and tribulations that hit everyone.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:40 AM

Iwatas only mistake has been operating in a comfort zone for too long.

But he's a fresh thinker and he's willing and able to grow.

He's a bit stretched right now, but still laser focused. Admirable qualities.

With the advent of Wii u, he has led Nintendo to create an unprecedented console a "large screen" gamepad, with zero lag, a very capable console in terms of graphical chops, an entire, brand new and extremely robust social network, a tv integrated service, an application platform operating system, created an entire online ecosystem infrastructure, honed in on a fresh way of communicating directly to fans with animate do Directs, which he also takes personal time out to host, set up a fairly unique deal with best buy to play E3 games still in development, etc.

He is old school and that hampers him a bit, but he's fluid, meaning he rolls with the times and reaches for something greater.

Some of the guys around him could stand to learn a thing or two from him. Miyamoto especially. He's too wrapped up on what made him successful. He hasn't shown a desire to grow or expand his horizons since the original Pikmin a couple of generations ago. His recent critical comments at e3 about not seeing games her like to have made was meant as criticism of competitors. But in reality, it shows that he may be a little out of touch with what people are looking for. There are no doubt many developers who are looking at his games now and thinking that they would not have like to mske them. Miyamoto is a legend. But sometimes he is a roadblock.

Then there is Reggie. Regime is a salesman. He's not really wired to be a CEO. He's a jive talker. That what he does best. But it's not what Nintendo needs. Nintendo needs to be brutally honest with themselves and follow iwatas lead in terms if transparency and pushing beyond comfort zones for greatness. Reggie first became known in a big way with one of the most amazing intro films ever introducing the Wii. This amazing highlight film played, reminding everyone why Nintendo is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room, not Microsoft or Sony. And then Reggie started doing his thing: talking. Taking about kicking butts and taking names, blah blah blah... Right before brainwashing Nintendo fans into accepting another GameCube for the second generation in a row, but now with more waggle.
That's what Reggie does. It's almost embarrassing when he's asked legitimate questions by press. He almost never answers the question and just goes off into spin mode beating around the bush before finally arriving at a non answer. Often, the press seem a bit irritated and rightly so. Then there is the matter of him seeking more preoccupied with his own importance than to really push for growth on nintendos part. Iwata seems to have a head on Reggie and where his weaknesses are. That's why he has assumed many of Reggie's duties. That's a good thing. But Reggie is probably on his way out. NOA. Needs someone with aggressive vision to grow and stake claim in new territory. Not to simply talk big while metely protecting the little they have. There might be a place for Reggie. But not as president or CEO.

These are the big three at the big N.

Iwata is agile. He will lead the company onward and do it well. He hasn't always been. But recently he's showing himself to be a humble visionary. Miyamoto needs to pick up on the humility part a little more cryengine he will be able to care less about his status and more about the next great thing.

Reggie... Idk. He is what he is. He will be an asset where jive talk is needed, but little else.

The Wii u generation is a new Nintendo. It's an aggressive Nintendo that is pushing hardware power with software and hardware innovation at an impressive rate. Lets not forget Nintendo is playing catch up here. Me and Sony have bad a couple generations to learn. Nintendo is catching up very quickly though with all the infrastructure investments they've made.

This is a generation of transition which marks a new era for Nintendo. The foundations are being laid for now and the future.

Though the Wii U is not doing as well as hoped right now, it will pick up. And it's the springboard for a much more agile, robust, innovative, bigger, more powerful, and more developer-friendly Nintendo.

When you don't just look at current Wii I sales numbers, but look at what's actually taking place, it's all extremely encouraging.

Nintendo could so the exact same things ms and Sony did. They can buy gddr5 ram, they can buy an APU from AMD. But they built the Wii u. Because that's what they thought was best.

It was a choice. And it was a good one. But they has third parties go back on their word, hurting sales since there were no games. We've seen the first round of Wii u specific games at e3 and they look phenomenal. Some of the best graphics out there.

So iwata doesn't need to step down. He's lathing a new foundation. When you do that, you don't see a house yet. But the broader the foundation, the bigger the house. And the firmer the foundation, the better chance it has to withstand the trials and tribulations that hit everyone.

You have made a very good point by criticizing Reggie, and it is one I can frame my post around. Now, I could not (respectfully) disagree more, and I hope my reasoning opens some insightful discussion.

 

Reggie has a thankless job. He starts out as the marketing officer, and then moves on to the COO position of NOA. Now, this is a subsidiary of Nintendo, Ltd. in Japan, of which Iwata is the Global President (as you know, but I benefit from setting it all up).

 

Reggie is, more or less, limited to what he gets from the 'mother ship'. When he walks in, and they are readying the launch of the DS, and they are working on the Wii. At the same time, the PS2 and Xbox Original (stupid MS, now I have to type that word) are getting loads of content, and the GCN is dead in the water. Gameboy Micro is there, and the DS has a weak launch, with PSP on the horizon. He is fielding interviews about the obvious, "Where are the games?", and the like. Watch him talk at E3 '05. Pretty sad. Again, not his fault.

 

Additionally, from that period on, he has to defend the Wii against the monsters of PS360. Again, the mothership, Iwata's brain child, meant for Japan first, and everywhere else second, is thrust on NOA. Reggie has to talk about blue ocean's, different demographics, and yes, he has to side step those questions your talking about. I mean, how do you answer something like, "The real next gen systems are on their 3rd gen games now, and HDTV's are at 50% penetration, outside of the upcoming Mario Galaxy sequel, do you expect hardcore gamers to be satisfied with shovelware and fitness titles?", without losing your job?

 

This brings us to Wii U. Was it Reggie that told Iwata to sit on the firm's retained earnings instead of preparing for next gen development? This is where Iwata made a massive mistake, and it is one that made the head start irrelevant. Imagine Pikmin 3 at launch, or possibly something else, like Mario Kart 8. Instead, Nintendo was unprepared, which is shocking to me.  

 

In short, Iwata appears to have a very different view of the industry, and I do not think it has anything to do with age. I believe it has to do with the, "Satisfy Japan first, and adapt it for the other territories", aspect of their organizational culture. 

 

Back to Reggie. I do not know how the Wii U and Nintendo Land made it through testing if the goal was to have the Wii Sports effect on the consumer. I could imagine people liking it because it was new and different during tests, and imagining the potential, but those statistical inferences not carrying over to the real US market. Again, Reggie could now be so far out of touch, and sucked in to the organizational culture that he really thought the launch ports would be enough (believe me, you believe your own BS after awhile). 

 

So, in looking at Iwata from the eyes of the typical PS4/XB buyer, Nintendo is really where it should have been with online 8 years ago. Where it should have been graphically 6 years ago, and, well....

 

The thing about the blue ocean concept is not to ignore your competition completely, but to look across different consumer groups and create a new product/service that satisfies them in a different way. Wii did this for casual gamers, but that ship sailed (most likely to Apple, I hope Wii Fit U proves me wrong), but right now the Wii U appears to be like the product that only really serves a limited audience, as the gamepad is not attractive enough to do what it is designed for (attract core gamers in 2011 and innovate, be for everyone in 2012, hide under the rug during E3 2013). Nintendo is doing this, ironically, with Bayonetta and X. Only one problem with that though (2014). Oh, and the limited scope of appeal again. 

 

I should also say that I love Nintendo, Iwata, the Wii U, and 3ds. Iwata being the new CEO of NOA should change everything I spoke of. I hope Reggie is really paying attention, and I really hope things workout. I cannot go back to a gamepad-less experience.  



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 05:47 AM

Wow, rough on Reggie huh? Look, he is doing a good job. He doesn't have to answer to the press. In fact companies have PR people who do that. And Iwata didn't take some of his responsibilities, he took another persons job. Basically instead of having someone who will report to NOJ he will be that person. He wants a hands on approach. But that doesn't mean Reggie is doing a bad job.

But I agree that Iwata doesn't need to step down.




Iwatas only mistake has been operating in a comfort zone for too long.

But he's a fresh thinker and he's willing and able to grow.

He's a bit stretched right now, but still laser focused. Admirable qualities.

With the advent of Wii u, he has led Nintendo to create an unprecedented console a "large screen" gamepad, with zero lag, a very capable console in terms of graphical chops, an entire, brand new and extremely robust social network, a tv integrated service, an application platform operating system, created an entire online ecosystem infrastructure, honed in on a fresh way of communicating directly to fans with animate do Directs, which he also takes personal time out to host, set up a fairly unique deal with best buy to play E3 games still in development, etc.

He is old school and that hampers him a bit, but he's fluid, meaning he rolls with the times and reaches for something greater.

Some of the guys around him could stand to learn a thing or two from him. Miyamoto especially. He's too wrapped up on what made him successful. He hasn't shown a desire to grow or expand his horizons since the original Pikmin a couple of generations ago. His recent critical comments at e3 about not seeing games her like to have made was meant as criticism of competitors. But in reality, it shows that he may be a little out of touch with what people are looking for. There are no doubt many developers who are looking at his games now and thinking that they would not have like to mske them. Miyamoto is a legend. But sometimes he is a roadblock.

Then there is Reggie. Regime is a salesman. He's not really wired to be a CEO. He's a jive talker. That what he does best. But it's not what Nintendo needs. Nintendo needs to be brutally honest with themselves and follow iwatas lead in terms if transparency and pushing beyond comfort zones for greatness. Reggie first became known in a big way with one of the most amazing intro films ever introducing the Wii. This amazing highlight film played, reminding everyone why Nintendo is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room, not Microsoft or Sony. And then Reggie started doing his thing: talking. Taking about kicking butts and taking names, blah blah blah... Right before brainwashing Nintendo fans into accepting another GameCube for the second generation in a row, but now with more waggle.
That's what Reggie does. It's almost embarrassing when he's asked legitimate questions by press. He almost never answers the question and just goes off into spin mode beating around the bush before finally arriving at a non answer. Often, the press seem a bit irritated and rightly so. Then there is the matter of him seeking more preoccupied with his own importance than to really push for growth on nintendos part. Iwata seems to have a head on Reggie and where his weaknesses are. That's why he has assumed many of Reggie's duties. That's a good thing. But Reggie is probably on his way out. NOA. Needs someone with aggressive vision to grow and stake claim in new territory. Not to simply talk big while metely protecting the little they have. There might be a place for Reggie. But not as president or CEO.

These are the big three at the big N.

Iwata is agile. He will lead the company onward and do it well. He hasn't always been. But recently he's showing himself to be a humble visionary. Miyamoto needs to pick up on the humility part a little more cryengine he will be able to care less about his status and more about the next great thing.

Reggie... Idk. He is what he is. He will be an asset where jive talk is needed, but little else.

The Wii u generation is a new Nintendo. It's an aggressive Nintendo that is pushing hardware power with software and hardware innovation at an impressive rate. Lets not forget Nintendo is playing catch up here. Me and Sony have bad a couple generations to learn. Nintendo is catching up very quickly though with all the infrastructure investments they've made.

This is a generation of transition which marks a new era for Nintendo. The foundations are being laid for now and the future.

Though the Wii U is not doing as well as hoped right now, it will pick up. And it's the springboard for a much more agile, robust, innovative, bigger, more powerful, and more developer-friendly Nintendo.

When you don't just look at current Wii I sales numbers, but look at what's actually taking place, it's all extremely encouraging.

Nintendo could so the exact same things ms and Sony did. They can buy gddr5 ram, they can buy an APU from AMD. But they built the Wii u. Because that's what they thought was best.

It was a choice. And it was a good one. But they has third parties go back on their word, hurting sales since there were no games. We've seen the first round of Wii u specific games at e3 and they look phenomenal. Some of the best graphics out there.

So iwata doesn't need to step down. He's lathing a new foundation. When you do that, you don't see a house yet. But the broader the foundation, the bigger the house. And the firmer the foundation, the better chance it has to withstand the trials and tribulations that hit everyone.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:16 AM

hooray for being the only one who is happy to hear this!


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:03 AM

hooray for being the only one who is happy to hear this!


I am happy to hear this!
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:32 AM

I am happy to hear this!

I was quick to criticize Iwata in defense of Reggie, but in actuality, people forget the difficulty present in Iwata's job. The general assumption is that Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are really equal when it comes to hardware production, or at least, I get that impression when everyone criticizes Iwata for not competing head on.

 

Sony and Microsoft have ulterior motives for their machines (way more so for Microsoft). If the console divisions have problems, they call to the mothership for help. Nintendo does not have a mothership. They are the mothership, LOL.

 

In essence, Iwata created competitive advantages against companies much larger than his before.  The Wii U deserves a little more time. 



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:22 PM

I was quick to criticize Iwata in defense of Reggie, but in actuality, people forget the difficulty present in Iwata's job. The general assumption is that Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are really equal when it comes to hardware production, or at least, I get that impression when everyone criticizes Iwata for not competing head on.

 

Sony and Microsoft have ulterior motives for their machines (way more so for Microsoft). If the console divisions have problems, they call to the mothership for help. Nintendo does not have a mothership. They are the mothership, LOL.

 

In essence, Iwata created competitive advantages against companies much larger than his before.  The Wii U deserves a little more time. 

 

people like Reggie because he doesn't do anything! people just hate iwata because he is the one that has to say everything. 


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:47 PM

people like Reggie because he doesn't do anything! people just hate iwata because he is the one that has to say everything. 

He can't do anything;). 

 

He can see needs for all sorts of things, give his input, but, he has to eventually maintain the operations of NOA based on the global strategies set by Nintendo Ltd. It isn't like he is sitting around goofing off while everyone works around him. Likewise, I do not claim to know he is doing his job. But, we can say for certain that his power ceases with offering input to Iwata and the duties as COO of NOA. 



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:12 PM

You have made a very good point by criticizing Reggie, and it is one I can frame my post around. Now, I could not (respectfully) disagree more, and I hope my reasoning opens some insightful discussion.

Reggie has a thankless job. He starts out as the marketing officer, and then moves on to the COO position of NOA. Now, this is a subsidiary of Nintendo, Ltd. in Japan, of which Iwata is the Global President (as you know, but I benefit from setting it all up).

Reggie is, more or less, limited to what he gets from the 'mother ship'. When he walks in, and they are readying the launch of the DS, and they are working on the Wii. At the same time, the PS2 and Xbox Original (stupid MS, now I have to type that word) are getting loads of content, and the GCN is dead in the water. Gameboy Micro is there, and the DS has a weak launch, with PSP on the horizon. He is fielding interviews about the obvious, "Where are the games?", and the like. Watch him talk at E3 '05. Pretty sad. Again, not his fault.

Additionally, from that period on, he has to defend the Wii against the monsters of PS360. Again, the mothership, Iwata's brain child, meant for Japan first, and everywhere else second, is thrust on NOA. Reggie has to talk about blue ocean's, different demographics, and yes, he has to side step those questions your talking about. I mean, how do you answer something like, "The real next gen systems are on their 3rd gen games now, and HDTV's are at 50% penetration, outside of the upcoming Mario Galaxy sequel, do you expect hardcore gamers to be satisfied with shovelware and fitness titles?", without losing your job?

This brings us to Wii U. Was it Reggie that told Iwata to sit on the firm's retained earnings instead of preparing for next gen development? This is where Iwata made a massive mistake, and it is one that made the head start irrelevant. Imagine Pikmin 3 at launch, or possibly something else, like Mario Kart 8. Instead, Nintendo was unprepared, which is shocking to me.

In short, Iwata appears to have a very different view of the industry, and I do not think it has anything to do with age. I believe it has to do with the, "Satisfy Japan first, and adapt it for the other territories", aspect of their organizational culture.

Back to Reggie. I do not know how the Wii U and Nintendo Land made it through testing if the goal was to have the Wii Sports effect on the consumer. I could imagine people liking it because it was new and different during tests, and imagining the potential, but those statistical inferences not carrying over to the real US market. Again, Reggie could now be so far out of touch, and sucked in to the organizational culture that he really thought the launch ports would be enough (believe me, you believe your own BS after awhile).

So, in looking at Iwata from the eyes of the typical PS4/XB buyer, Nintendo is really where it should have been with online 8 years ago. Where it should have been graphically 6 years ago, and, well....

The thing about the blue ocean concept is not to ignore your competition completely, but to look across different consumer groups and create a new product/service that satisfies them in a different way. Wii did this for casual gamers, but that ship sailed (most likely to Apple, I hope Wii Fit U proves me wrong), but right now the Wii U appears to be like the product that only really serves a limited audience, as the gamepad is not attractive enough to do what it is designed for (attract core gamers in 2011 and innovate, be for everyone in 2012, hide under the rug during E3 2013). Nintendo is doing this, ironically, with Bayonetta and X. Only one problem with that though (2014). Oh, and the limited scope of appeal again.

I should also say that I love Nintendo, Iwata, the Wii U, and 3ds. Iwata being the new CEO of NOA should change everything I spoke of. I hope Reggie is really paying attention, and I really hope things workout. I cannot go back to a gamepad-less experience.

Reggie isn't even good at marketing. That's kinda the problem.

Nintendo needed a shameless stonewall to spin the underpowered wii, which hit the market at the perfect time.

Reggie should never have been the head of noa.

And he had a thankful job. He's the one people would mention when anything good happened.

But his arrogance belies nintendos inherent humility. And cursing at E3? Not cool, reg.

He was there to be tough against criticism during the wii days. Did his job. But in truth, he has nothing to really offer now. Not saying he should be fired. But a reassignment would be great.

During his tenure as head of Nintendo America, western developers have shied away more than ever.

Now, with the advent of wii u, it has gotten worse. He is partly responsible for that.

Edited by Socalmuscle, 29 June 2013 - 03:17 PM.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 04:33 PM

Reggie isn't even good at marketing. That's kinda the problem.

Nintendo needed a shameless stonewall to spin the underpowered wii, which hit the market at the perfect time.

Reggie should never have been the head of noa.

And he had a thankful job. He's the one people would mention when anything good happened.

But his arrogance belies nintendos inherent humility. And cursing at E3? Not cool, reg.

He was there to be tough against criticism during the wii days. Did his job. But in truth, he has nothing to really offer now. Not saying he should be fired. But a reassignment would be great.

During his tenure as head of Nintendo America, western developers have shied away more than ever.

Now, with the advent of wii u, it has gotten worse. He is partly responsible for that.

I can understand your position. My position is this-it is very hard, in North America, to face the gaming press with Nintendo's strategy. It is very difficult to justify their actions to the 'core' gamer since online was more or less avoided, and then insulted with friend codes. 

 

My point-Iwata comes in, says to Reggie, "This is what we are going to to, it is your job to align NOA's operations with this strategy." Reggie says, "Sir, I am not sure this will work in with this market, but I will do what I can." Keep in mind, these boards, the fans you see on this Nintendo fan page that are frustrated, are probably on a much larger scale for what Reggie had to deal with. Imagine talking to IGN after your third party reel is shown less than 24 hours after the PS4 is revealed to be $399. 

 

Do you have example's of this arrogance? I have seen showmanship, and I have seen him in formal situations. Talking to IGN is a place to be Reggie the character, and speaking to Forbes is where he is completely different. 

 

As always, I appreciate, and value, your response. 



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 09:28 PM

I can understand your position. My position is this-it is very hard, in North America, to face the gaming press with Nintendo's strategy. It is very difficult to justify their actions to the 'core' gamer since online was more or less avoided, and then insulted with friend codes.

My point-Iwata comes in, says to Reggie, "This is what we are going to to, it is your job to align NOA's operations with this strategy." Reggie says, "Sir, I am not sure this will work in with this market, but I will do what I can." Keep in mind, these boards, the fans you see on this Nintendo fan page that are frustrated, are probably on a much larger scale for what Reggie had to deal with. Imagine talking to IGN after your third party reel is shown less than 24 hours after the PS4 is revealed to be $399.

Do you have example's of this arrogance? I have seen showmanship, and I have seen him in formal situations. Talking to IGN is a place to be Reggie the character, and speaking to Forbes is where he is completely different.

As always, I appreciate, and value, your response.

You are an example as the why these forums are some of the best on the Internet. Intelligent, respectful discussion.
Well done.

We will have to simply disagree on Reggie.

"My job is hard" isn't an excuse in my eyes, though, I do think compassion is sadly lacking in this world. My comments are stated point blank and matter of factly (opinionly?). While I don't take the time to balance those comments with compassion, I did mention that he shouldn't be fired, but reassigned to a position he would fit better in.

He was an American liaison of sorts with developers and in that role, he did not do well at all. As a stonewall versus the press, he did what Nintendo needed: be a wall that won't admit weakness, no matter how true the questions. The Wii era needed that. And I conceded that point. But that time is gone and Reggie seems a little lost. Iwata took up the reigns where needed. Reggie isn't a CEO. He's a "talker." So he should be reassigned to a "talker" position. A PR guy. Everything you mentioned about his job seems to reflect the truth of this. PR. Not developer relations. Not product development input. Talk. Specifically to the press. Whether its Xpasy, IGN, the numerous gaming news outlets, or late night with akin my Fallon. Let Reggie do that stuff. He's OK. But now with the potential of Wii U, Nintendo doesn't need a stonewall tough guy defending Nintendo from critics. They need someone who oozes excitement for the console and creates it with his energy and words. And good PR person knows that every question. Every public comment is an opportunity to do that. Reggie doesn't do that. Maybe he needs to refresh himself. Everyone does from time to time.

But my point was that iwata did the right thing in taking some of Reggie's responsibilities. For Nintendos sake. It had to happen. It's also merciful of iwata in my opinion, because it saves Reggie the heartache if being fired and replaced by someone else. That may still be coming. But the way it's handeled says a lot about Iwata as a man as well as a CEO. The human element is what has made Nintendo stand out amongst cold, corporate competitors. And Iwata is maintaining that heart alongside his business skills.

Ultimately, a CEO has to make decisions that are very hard and even heartbreaking for the benefit of the company, long term. Apples Tom Cook had to recently let to of a guy (Scott Forstall) who had been part of Apples skyrocketing comeback from the brink. But then the asset became a liability and that situation had to be addressed. I think Nintendo is much more compassionate about addressing the issue: anyone not focused on the news sees the same thing: Reggie at E3. Reggie on Nintendo Direct. Reggie on YouTube, Nintendo.com, etc. Reggie talking to press. So gamers aren't shaken up and Reggie saves face. Iwata deserves credit for they too.

There are many sides to the coin (only two actually, but this is the Internet...) and you have given some truthful, insightful, and valuable commentary. I agree with what you said actually. But I also believe it was necessary for change and that Reggie isn't the best guy for his former position. At least it is being handled nicely and with respect.

Edited by Socalmuscle, 29 June 2013 - 09:36 PM.





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