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#1 TheDoritoKing

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:58 PM

I got Game & Wario and noticed that some of the mini-games (namely Pirates and Arrow) tend to control a bit strangely as they go on, like the GamePad goes out-of-sync and can't tell where it is anymore (the other games, and everything else about the GamePad, seem to work); has anybody else had issues with this?



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:09 PM

There me be times where you need to re-calibrate your GamePad be turning it upwards. It could also be some sort of interference with the magnetometer, or some problem with the GamePad itself.

 

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:24 PM

The GamePad usually needs to be re-recalibrated if it was in a weird position when you powered your system on.  

 

I'm a little wary that this only happens with one title though.  That might mean either a bug in the game (which I haven't heard reported about Game & Wario) or indeed something might be wrong on the hardware side.

 

Have you called Nintendo about this?


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:07 PM

You will probably ecperience the same issue with captain falcon if you hold it flat like some people, and the throwingstar game from nintendo land.

The magnometer and gyroscope will gradually lose their calibration without input from the accelerometer to recalibrate them.

There is one axis where the accelerometer isnt capable of gathering input, the yaw axis, the axis of rotation that is parallell to the ground.

When you hold the gamepad in such a manner, it will slowly lose calibration.

Simply hold the gamepad perpindicular to the ground for a moment and it should recalibrate itself, though you can induce a false calibration by providing acceleration input (often accidentally, caused by excitement) at this time, which would recalibrate 'center' to a rather akward position.

The game should have you do this periodically as a game mechanic for this very reason. In nintendo land it had you hold the pad vertically to reload, which would then do a hasty recalibration.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 12:12 AM

Actually the magnetometer will always  work the same way, because it works by sensing the  direction of the earths magnetic pull. Its a device they put in so you will not need to recalibrate as much. Things that can  affect the magnetometer are things like  magnets, radiation, electricity (which always gives off some magnetic energy) and your own stupidity in breaking it. So its unlikely it is the problem, unless you hit it againt something, stuck a magnet on the device, have a  electrical device that gives off small electrical magnetic bursts  periodically or is faulty.



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 06:59 AM

Actually the magnetometer will always  work the same way, because it works by sensing the  direction of the earths magnetic pull. Its a device they put in so you will not need to recalibrate as much. Things that can  affect the magnetometer are things like  magnets, radiation, electricity (which always gives off some magnetic energy) and your own stupidity in breaking it. So its unlikely it is the problem, unless you hit it againt something, stuck a magnet on the device, have a  electrical device that gives off small electrical magnetic bursts  periodically or is faulty.


This is 100% true.... In theory.....

However in our real world there is a sea of magnetic interference, Even out in the woods. Within this sea of magnetic interference is the weak earth magnetic lines we are trying to detect. We are talking a typical magnetic reading of 0-250 within a static reading of 10,000. In other words, the compass will read a value between 10,000 and 10,250 and we want to remove the unwanted 10,000. (inside homes or urban areas, this interference level is even higher)

This is why all magnometers are paired with accelerometers, to reel in the drift from not always being able to accurately remove static, errors will gradually stack eventually throwing off calibration enough to be quite noticable. The faster you want to return a response, like say fast enough for a 60 times a second refresh, the less accurate the attempts at removing that drift are going to be. But with an accelerometer, gyroscope, and magnometer all working in tandem, covering each others weakpoints, its a completely solid experience...

Until the accelerometer drops out, as its incapable of distinguishing anything along the yaw axis.... And the pads calibration slowly degrades, until accelerometer input is recieved again.

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