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#21 syks-1

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 02:41 PM

I'm picking mine up from GAME tomorrow. I decided not to go to the midnight launch today. I'm getting the EU/UK mega pack which includes and extra controller, the camera and a copy of Killzone. My copy of Knack should be here tomorrow from Shop To.

i know knack got bad reviews but the youtubers ive seen playing it say if you take it for the oldschool type game its ment to be its actually quite fun and dosnt deserve such low scores...let us know what you think of it when you get it if you dont mind :)
im getting killzone as well but the wife is making me wait untill christmas for it :( lol



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:24 AM

i know knack got bad reviews but the youtubers ive seen playing it say if you take it for the oldschool type game its ment to be its actually quite fun and dosnt deserve such low scores...let us know what you think of it when you get it if you dont mind :)
im getting killzone as well but the wife is making me wait untill christmas for it :( lol


I just picked up my PS4 from GAME and I'm sitting in Costa drinking coffee whilst posting on here. LOL. I hope to have received Knack today in the post from Shop To so hopefully I'll get to check it out this weekend that's as long as Super Mario 3D World doesn't suck me in. LOL. I just got that yesterday and haven't started playing it yet.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:40 AM

Posting this from my friends laptop.

 

He got it today and I have been at his house helping him set it up and seeing what it's like. After 3 hours or so of COD, Knack and Battlefield 4 I think the console is pretty good but I am a little disappointed in the controller. We both agree the Xbox One controller is better overall, the PS4 sticks feel accurate but still think Xbone has the nicer sticks and triggers. Compared to DS3 though, PS4's new pad is much improved.

 

After updating the games for native 1080p the difference is not really noticeable. It does look a little clearer in the distance for example than 720p but what I did notice was framerate problems with PS4. Install times are very quick however.

 

We both have the same size HDTV's and since I have the Xbone I thought all this talk of native 1080p vs upscaled 1080p would be very noticeable, it isn't unless you sit 10 inches away from your screen.

 

Overall I think both consoles are a good purchase but maybe not right now. Best sticking with one until the other has games/features you want.



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:12 AM

I do intend to get one sometime in the future, but getting a Wii U is my priority. And after I get that my spending money is probably going to be very limited for a long time.

 

Truth is, while I have nothing against Sony and love my PS2, I never wanted to want a PS4. I only need one because the Wii U is not getting even a single third party title I want (which is really sad, considering they're games like Kingdom Hearts III).


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:23 AM

Meh. Sticking to my WiiU and PC. Not exactly a fan of any of Sony's and MS' exclusives. Aside from KH3, MGSV and FF15, I don't think I have a reason to get "next gen".

 

Overall, I just don't see the other consoles as a worthy investment when I can get a PC that I can use to do Photoshop, Visual Studio, Vegas and of course, gaming at a competitive price point near them. 

 

In fact, you could get a PC that beats "next-gen" at around $500. Combined with the savings that you get with Steam Sales (Autumn, Summer and Winter), the price in the long run will be considerably cheaper. Just $13 dollars above the entry barrier of the Xbox One can you get a PC functions more than just gaming (CodeBlocks, Blender, Maya, Unity, Photoshop, Premier, CAD, etc.), net you a lot in savings (Humble Bundles, Green Man Gaming and Steam Sales) and last you through for quite some time. Building a PC is just like building LEGO's. In fact, even a 14 year old could put one together from scratch. 

 

 

CPU AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor $119.99 @ Newegg

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Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $17.99 @ Newegg    

Total: $513.39

 

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:57 AM

I'm satisfied with the Wii U right now, however after a price drop and the kinks get worked out, I'll probably invest in a Xbone for Living Room purposes.  



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:30 PM

loving the ps4 so far..but there is one down point at the moment...cant play online or sign into psn as servers are down :( apart from that im loving it,the ui is SUPER fast and battlefield 4 looks very nice...just want to go online :(



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:48 PM

Meh. Sticking to my WiiU and PC. Not exactly a fan of any of Sony's and MS' exclusives. Aside from KH3, MGSV and FF15, I don't think I have a reason to get "next gen".

 

Overall, I just don't see the other consoles as a worthy investment when I can get a PC that I can use to do Photoshop, Visual Studio, Vegas and of course, gaming at a competitive price point near them. 

 

In fact, you could get a PC that beats "next-gen" at around $500. Combined with the savings that you get with Steam Sales (Autumn, Summer and Winter), the price in the long run will be considerably cheaper. Just $13 dollars above the entry barrier of the Xbox One can you get a PC functions more than just gaming (CodeBlocks, Blender, Maya, Unity, Photoshop, Premier, CAD, etc.), net you a lot in savings (Humble Bundles, Green Man Gaming and Steam Sales) and last you through for quite some time. Building a PC is just like building LEGO's. In fact, even a 14 year old could put one together from scratch. 

 

 

CPU AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor $119.99 @ Newegg

Motherboard Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard $58.98 @ Newegg

Memory Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $48.96 @ NCIX US

Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99 @ Newegg

Video Card MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card $179.99 @ Newegg

Case NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Amazon

Power Supply Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $22.50 @ Newegg

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $17.99 @ Newegg    

Total: $513.39

 

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:25 PM



What about a monitor and peripherals?

Depends on if you're hooking to a tv. And we're waiting for the steam controller.

 

And just out of mild curiosity, how close would this be to the PS4/Xbone's APU? Processor and graphics?


Edited by grahamf, 29 November 2013 - 01:28 PM.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:38 PM

yay can now sign into psn :)



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:54 PM

What about a monitor and peripherals?

also, you know, an operating system?

 

Let's be honest. That system is not going to play the newest games in seven years at 60 fps. Consoles are great because games are developed FOR them. Battlefield 8 will run on a PS4 as well as Battlefield 4 (if it ran well lol) does. Yeah, the graphics will be toned down compared to the newest PC then, but my PC won't be able to run it smoothly on any settings because it won't be developed for older PC's.



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:27 PM

grahamf, on 29 Nov 2013 - 4:25 PM, said:
Depends on if you're hooking to a tv. And we're waiting for the steam controller.

And just out of mild curiosity, how close would this be to the PS4/Xbone's APU? Processor and graphics?

The AMD A10-6700 Richland is the apu both ps4 and xbone were based on, they are simply tweaked customized versions of that apu... I remember early dev kits actually using that apu. In fact, if you compare the dieshot of the apu on the link you provided, its near identical to the die shot of the ps4/xbone:

http://www.chipworks...2013/11/041.jpg
(this ones the ps4, just remove almpst half the rows of gcn cores to get the xbone)

The biggest change is they swapped out the 3-4Ghz piledriver desktop cpu cores, with the jaguar 1.6-8 Ghz Jaguar mobile phone/tablet cpu.

Even so, the ps4/xbone are closed systems, that gives them the potential, with exclusive games, to do things seemingly beyond their reach.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 03:30 PM

So If I was to build a custom steambox using that, it'd be close enough in power? Aside form the overhead for Windows, of course.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 10:21 PM

They're practically using tablet CPUs (AMD's answer to the netbook/cellphone Atom but weaker and cheaper.) on the PS4 (2 Quad Core Modules).

 

Combined with the fact that it uses a stripped down Tahiti/Pitcairn XT GPU (modified and down-clocked to be used for an APU), the build I gave is a little bit higher in the PS4. The PS4 has unified memory and the walled garden specs will help optimization so all in all, they're more or less the same. The PC I linked will play games at settings a little bit higher than the PS4 for years to come. If the PS4 can't run a game on Ultra 6-7 years later, why should the PC? It's meant to be contemporary specced with the PS4 and Xbox One.

 

For Monitor, You can just use your TV or you can use the Vidiuu Streamer when it's finished.

 

For OS, Valve and the other software houses are already working on porting games to Linux and Steam OS. Metro Last Light now has a Linux version. So do most Valve and Id games. Mantle will also provide excellent support to Steam OS (Which is free)

 

Of course, like 3Dude said. exclusive games will always find a bypass to "surpass" the limitations of the system (More Pop-in, Heavy Scripting and Texture Streaming from Disk). However, Mantle will most likely bring the same optimization to PC's (AMD of course). 

 

also, you know, an operating system?

 

Let's be honest. That system is not going to play the newest games in seven years at 60 fps. Consoles are great because games are developed FOR them. Battlefield 8 will run on a PS4 as well as Battlefield 4 (if it ran well lol) does. Yeah, the graphics will be toned down compared to the newest PC then, but my PC won't be able to run it smoothly on any settings because it won't be developed for older PC's.

 

Of course it won't at max. The PS4 won't either. The term "optimization" as most console users use it is getting more and more voided due to all of them sharing x86-x64. Combined with Mantle, this generation is probably going to have equal performance from all platforms at the same price point. A PC from 2006 can run games that are also on PS3 albeit at medium-low settings just like it's console contemporaries who run at an optimized low equivalent

 

The AMD A10-6700 Richland is the apu both ps4 and xbone were based on, they are simply tweaked customized versions of that apu... I remember early dev kits actually using that apu. In fact, if you compare the dieshot of the apu on the link you provided, its near identical to the die shot of the ps4/xbone:

http://www.chipworks...2013/11/041.jpg
(this ones the ps4, just remove almpst half the rows of gcn cores to get the xbone)

The biggest change is they swapped out the 3-4Ghz piledriver desktop cpu cores, with the jaguar 1.6-8 Ghz Jaguar mobile phone/tablet cpu.

Even so, the ps4/xbone are closed systems, that gives them the potential, with exclusive games, to do things seemingly beyond their reach.

The Richland APU's aren't exactly know for their power. Swapping them out for Jaguar only makes it worse. I do however, acknowledge the fact that "optimization works great on closed platforms.

 

An HTPC would actually be cheaper than an XBone in general, A W Reezy.  


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Posted 30 November 2013 - 02:01 AM

WOW killzone looks absolutely AMAZING on the ps4...i thought battlefield looked good but man killzone just blows me away



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Posted 30 November 2013 - 06:27 AM

WOW killzone looks absolutely AMAZING on the ps4...i thought battlefield looked good but man killzone just blows me away

Hey syks, have you seen Star Citizen yet? If you like sci-fi style games, you might like it.


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Posted 30 November 2013 - 06:48 AM

Hey syks, have you seen Star Citizen yet? If you like sci-fi style games, you might like it.

no not seen it..is it in the store??



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 02:14 PM

I'm waiting for some more first party games to come out. Or when Wii U stops getting decent multiplats/multiplats at all (AKA pretty soon). Hoping those Crash Bandicoot and Parappa rumors are true. That's all I need for a PS4.






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