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#21 Azure-Edge

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 08:24 PM

Hayashi had 1 bad game out of his 2, and is brand new in his role. It's hardly fair to compare their accomplishments in size when Itagaki has had as long as he has. And DOA5 was built from the ground up. The only thing that was the same were (some of) the characters. That game was fantastically done, and fed needs the fans had been asking for for years and years.

 

No he had one TERRIBLE game out of his two. Even in DOA5, he's working off of what Itagaki had originally created. He may have done alright with DOA5, but his take on Ninja Gaiden is just awful. It's really quite sad because if he had just left the mechanics of the games alone and not stripped them of features then it wouldn't have been near as bad. Maybe fighting games are just more Hayashi's bag, but Ninja Gaiden 3 is just broken and lacks the creativity and interest of the first game, and to the lesser extent the second. Trust me, I wish it wasn't true, especially since Hayashi's work under Itagaki was terrific. 


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:33 AM

No he had one TERRIBLE game out of his two. Even in DOA5, he's working off of what Itagaki had originally created. He may have done alright with DOA5, but his take on Ninja Gaiden is just awful. It's really quite sad because if he had just left the mechanics of the games alone and not stripped them of features then it wouldn't have been near as bad. Maybe fighting games are just more Hayashi's bag, but Ninja Gaiden 3 is just broken and lacks the creativity and interest of the first game, and to the lesser extent the second. Trust me, I wish it wasn't true, especially since Hayashi's work under Itagaki was terrific. 

Well technically he's working off itagaki's work with Ninja Gaiden as well...

I think it's much too early to say Hayashi is bad at what he does

We should at least wait and see how Yaiba turns out.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:32 AM

Well technically he's working off itagaki's work with Ninja Gaiden as well...

I think it's much too early to say Hayashi is bad at what he does

We should at least wait and see how Yaiba turns out.

 

Exactly, the fact that he can screw up something that was already done for him says something. 


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 11:58 AM

Exactly, the fact that he can screw up something that was already done for him says something. 

But he also made something that was already done for him (DoA) better...


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 03:30 PM

Man, it would be awesome if it was Mr. Itagaki's game. I have a feeling, after leaving Tecmo, I would presume he would want to really prove something. It could really be something special. 

 

Plus, his NG games are, in my opinion, like the perfect mix of cut scene, game, and curse-inducing challenge thrown into one. Sort of like what FPS try to do with their campaigns, like COD, this man pulls off with actual game play. 

 

DOA 3 was mind blowing for its time. 



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 04:09 PM

But he also made something that was already done for him (DoA) better...

 

So he's 50/50. Not exactly what I would call fantastic. 

 

Man, it would be awesome if it was Mr. Itagaki's game. I have a feeling, after leaving Tecmo, I would presume he would want to really prove something. It could really be something special. 

 

Plus, his NG games are, in my opinion, like the perfect mix of cut scene, game, and curse-inducing challenge thrown into one. Sort of like what FPS try to do with their campaigns, like COD, this man pulls off with actual game play. 

 

DOA 3 was mind blowing for its time. 

 

I'd say wait and see on Itagaki's new thing. He hasn't really done anything new in years and that game of his has been in development hell for a long time now. That's usually not a good sign. Personally I'd hope it'd be something from an established brand. Otherwise haters will just ignore it like Wonderful 101. Like I said before, I want to see Bayonetta 2 level meltdowns and beyond. 


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:55 AM

So he's 50/50. Not exactly what I would call fantastic. 

 

 

I'd say wait and see on Itagaki's new thing. He hasn't really done anything new in years and that game of his has been in development hell for a long time now. That's usually not a good sign. Personally I'd hope it'd be something from an established brand. Otherwise haters will just ignore it like Wonderful 101. Like I said before, I want to see Bayonetta 2 level meltdowns and beyond. 

Actually he's 1/2

i realize it's the same percentage, but 1/2 means he's just started and he could quite easily end up at 90/10 for all we know. that's why I say it's too early to call.


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