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[Nollog]

USB 2 is faster than any disc drive currently available.

Edited by Nollog, 04 January 2014 - 01:50 PM.

[Zinix]

You're sure? 

[grahamf]

Aside from flash drives, but the Wii U really doesn't need it.

[alan123]

what are you on about, USB is much faster for transferring data, i know this because my laptop is USB3 & i use USB3 flashdrives & HDD's, i also have GTA5 installed on a USB2 flashdrive for my X360 & it works great, if the X360 was USB3 stuff would load faster that it does now.

[Mewbot]

It's pointless for people that use discs a lot. USB2 is faster than discs already. USB3 will give faster loading speeds, though. Too bad it's hella expensive atm.

[Raiden]

I use USB3 on my PC and it's great. Consoles on PS3 and 360 I never need to use the ports really. Rare times I did was for small things. USB 3.0 is vital for me on PC but on a console not so much. Maybe I will change my tune when I eventually get a HDD for the Wii U. For now don't think it matters very much for a console.

[Arkhandar]

A SATA III connector is way more important imo.

[xile6]

I don't thin 3.0 is needed. It would be pointless since you can't transfer games.

So of a new model came out it wouldn't work for people who already have a frist gen wii u.

 

Also I believe that 2.0 is working just fine for the wii u. So why up cost for something small that maybe a few will use.

I know I use disc only.

[Structures]

no

[grahamf]

To be fair, Nintendo revised the WIi halfway through it's generation (stripped Gamecube compatibility) and launched XL revisions of the DSi and 3DS. There's nothing stopping Nintendo from - two years down the road - releasing a revision of the Wii u, providing that revision is virtually identical from a developer's perspective with no backwards compatibility issues with the first revision. It would be really awesome if it had room for an internal SATA drive though

 

I can see it happening, but not yet.

Edited by grahamf, 04 January 2014 - 07:06 PM.

[Nollog]

what are you on about, USB is much faster for transferring data, i know this because my laptop is USB3 & i use USB3 flashdrives & HDD's, i also have GTA5 installed on a USB2 flashdrive for my X360 & it works great, if the X360 was USB3 stuff would load faster that it does now.

Yes USB 3 is faster than USB 2, however, that's not what my hyper macho man were saying.
My heart was leaking that a blu-ray drive at... say 22x speed is slightly slower than a USB2 hard drive.
Does your petrified corpse understand me now?
 

I use USB3 on my PC and it's great. Consoles on PS3 and 360 I never need to use the ports really. Rare times I did was for small things. USB 3.0 is vital for me on PC but on a console not so much. Maybe I will change my tune when I eventually get a HDD for the Wii U. For now don't think it matters very much for a console.

IKR, I use internal sata3 ports, and 2 for my mechanical hard drives, since plugging them into my 3 ports wouldn't do any good, in fact it may make them rainbowtier, since marvell make carp sata3 ports.
But we PC Master Race enlightened marvels of the modern world with all our splendor are truly enlightened to to glory of hard drives, peasant scum need disc drives for their rainbowty ogre boxes.

A SATA III connector is way more important imo.

esata3 or something, yeah. Would be ideal.

Edited by Nollog, 04 January 2014 - 06:40 PM.

[Arkhandar]

How about USB 3.1? A lot better than SATA 3 or eSATA.

 

10 Gb/s seems more than ideal with 7.2 Gb/s of real world performance.

Edited by Arkhandar, 05 January 2014 - 06:48 AM.

[Alex Atkin UK]

USB 2 is faster than any disc drive currently available.

 

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.  If the Wii U actually utilised it properly then it totally would be worth it.  Who wouldn't want the Wii U loading games as fast as PC?

 

As it stands I could argue the same that more than 20Mbit broadband is pointless, purely based on the fact the Wii U refuses to download that fast.  It doesn't mean its pointless overall, its just pointless due to how the Wii U is poorly optimised.

[Nollog]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.  If the Wii U actually utilised it properly then it totally would be worth it.  Who wouldn't want the Wii U loading games as fast as PC?
 
As it stands I could argue the same that more than 20Mbit broadband is pointless, purely based on the fact the Wii U refuses to download that fast.  It doesn't mean its pointless overall, its just pointless due to how the Wii U is poorly optimised.

Consoles don't work like that. If you load a game faster one of two things happen:
1. the game plays at a higher speed. (2 second becomes 1 etc.)
2. the data stays in memory and does nothing for gameplay.

I made this in response to that kid what wants to be a developer and always says wii u sucks and sold his wii u but buys games for it all the time to say how bad they are, he made a thread saying something like wii u should have usb3 in an update to hardware or software or something.

[Lupaie]

Usb3 and especially Thunderbolt are the connection needed for fullhd or 4k video-editing, charging or even networking on the fly.....for the rest, not so much.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Consoles don't work like that. If you load a game faster one of two things happen:
1. the game plays at a higher speed. (2 second becomes 1 etc.)
2. the data stays in memory and does nothing for gameplay.

I made this in response to that kid what wants to be a developer and always says wii u sucks and sold his wii u but buys games for it all the time to say how bad they are, he made a thread saying something like wii u should have usb3 in an update to hardware or software or something.

 

1. That doesn't make sense, you are talking about executing the code quicker not loading quicker. 

2. Consoles are still just computers, the quicker the data get into RAM the less time you spend staring at loading screens and the less texture/object pop-in you get.

 

The problem is the WiiU (like the PS3) seems to have some other bottleneck that slows down loading so it never reaches the speed of the media itself, most likely its the DRM.

 

So yes USB 3.0 would be pointless on the WiiU, but its far from pointless in other cases.