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[Zinix]

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1615251

 

 

Great for her. 

[grahamf]

I'm sure many wet dreams were ruined.

[Raiden]

I'm sure many wet dreams were ruined.

Or made better Yum Yum hot lesbo

 

Edited by Ryudo, 15 February 2014 - 05:17 AM.

[LinkKennedy]

Well she kinda gave out that vibe lol but yeah must be a huge load off her mind.

[Mewbot]

Ok. I always thought she was. Good for her, coming out. I don't understand why some people make a big deal of it, or keep it a secret.

[nbond3040]

good for her but I've never understood coming out to the whole world with this type of stuff. I just don't understand making a big deal out of it.

[Penguin101]

I don't see how this is newsworthy. So what? 

Edited by Penguin101, 15 February 2014 - 08:15 AM.

[Nollog]

My prayers are with her parents.

[Big Boss]

whateverrrrr

[Kokirii]

good for her but I've never understood coming out to the whole world with this type of stuff. I just don't understand making a big deal out of it.

 

It is manufactured by the media to make it look like gays continue to live under an oppression and social stigmatization that doesn't exist (i.e. continue to marginalize people with religious and/or otherwise traditional values and make them look like 1960's-era segregationists).  There's nothing you can do in our culture to receive greater praise, admiration, and support than come out as gay.  Only in the smallest, most backwater town would this actually be "brave."  What is "brave" today is "coming out" as being against gay marriage, etc.  That's what actually carries a real social stigma now, ruins people's careers and reputation, makes them social outcasts, etc.

 

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BTW, I'm not trying to make any assertions here about Ellen Page's being gay, being gay in general, etc.  Just saying I think it's absurd and dishonest to continue propagating the notion that it takes particular courage to "come out" in our present culture (by "culture" I mean primarily popular media, government, journalism, and education), which is doing literally everything it can to promote homosexuality and stigmatize anyone who disagrees.  

Edited by kokirii, 15 February 2014 - 12:10 PM.

[Nollog]

It is manufactured by the media to make it look like gays continue to live under an oppression and social stigmatization that doesn't exist (i.e. continue to marginalize people with religious and/or otherwise traditional values and make them look like 1960's-era segregationists).  There's nothing you can do in our culture to receive greater praise, admiration, and support than come out as gay.  Only in the smallest, most backwater town would this actually be "brave."  What is "brave" today is "coming out" as being against gay marriage, etc.  That's what actually carries a real social stigma now, ruins people's careers and reputation, makes them social outcasts, etc.
 
*edit* 
 
BTW, I'm not trying to make any assertions here about Ellen Page's being gay, being gay in general, etc.  Just saying I think it's absurd and dishonest to continue propagating the notion that it takes particular courage to "come out" in our present culture (by "culture" I mean primarily popular media, government, journalism, and education), which is doing literally everything it can to promote homosexuality and stigmatize anyone who disagrees.

IKR, homosexuals can even marry each other in like ... 2 states in the US! Like... get over it ogres!

[Kokirii]

IKR, homosexuals can even marry each other in like ... 2 states in the US! Like... get over it ogres!

 

You missed the point, Nolly.  It's gone from 0 to more than a third of states (much more than "2") in just a few years, and the federal law against it has already been struck down by the supreme court.  The people in my state who voted against the proposed amendment were brutally demonized in a way the media would never support for any other group of people.  The only reason it's still not allowed in the other states is because of the votes of the otherwise silent majority who don't speak up outside of the confidential ballot box because, despite being a majority, broader "culture" is controlled by the people (in many or even most cases the elite minority) who are in support of overturning traditional norms as quickly as possible.  To use a crude metaphor, being against gay marriage in the US is very much like being pro-Nintendo.  Even if there are a lot of people, they're more or less afraid to/unable to speak up outside of their own bubbles because of the way the "industry" is trending. 

Edited by kokirii, 15 February 2014 - 01:35 PM.

[Slim Shady]

noooo

[Socalmuscle]

You missed the point, Nolly.  It's gone from 0 to more than a third of states (much more than "2") in just a few years, and the federal law against it has already been struck down by the supreme court.  The people in my state who voted against the proposed amendment were brutally demonized in a way the media would never support for any other group of people.  The only reason it's still not allowed in the other states is because of the votes of the otherwise silent majority who don't speak up outside of the confidential ballot box because, despite being a majority, broader "culture" is controlled by the people (in many or even most cases the elite minority) who are in support of overturning traditional norms as quickly as possible.  To use a crude metaphor, being against gay marriage in the US is very much like being pro-Nintendo.  Even if there are a lot of people, they're more or less afraid to/unable to speak up outside of their own bubbles because of the way the "industry" is trending. 

Good post.

Someone sees past the media spoon feeding.

[Nollog]

Good post.

Someone sees past the media spoon feeding.

Indeed.

Also that horrible media spoon-feeding about the holocaust.

[Raiden]