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#1 Zinix

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Game Informer

 
When it came to planning the next step after Batman: Arkham City, Rocksteady Studios had a clear vision of what it wanted and sold it to parent company Warner Bros.
 
*snip* talks about how it would be a game built around the Batmobile and what that meant for the city size and project scope *snip*
 
Hill says, "I think for us the main thing was, 'Please let us make this game. It' snot going to be quick, and it's going to be quite hard, and it's probably going to be quite expensive.'"
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Warner Bros. supported Rocksteady's vision for the game, but all parties realized that three years was a long time for fans to wait for another Batman title. To fill in the gap, Warner Bros. Games Montreal took on 2013's Arkham Origins, set before the events of Arkham Asylum. Rocksteady provided its code and remained on call for technical questions, but stayed hands-off for the most part.
 
"We said, 'Make the game you want to make,' Hill says. "We didn't want to try and influence them from afar. We wanted them to be really passionate about the game they wanted to make... We didn't want to try and be directing from across the Atlantic. We were quite busy."

 

Essentially Origins just was placeholder game. 


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 02:29 PM

3 years isn't long. the time in between smash games has been longer than that each time.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:06 PM

If 3 years is long then man for us Shenmue and Mega Man Legends fans...sheesh.

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:18 PM

So let's milk the franchise and come up with a new Batman game every year. I think this trend is getting tiresome.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:29 PM

I assumed 3 years was a normal development cycle. Origins didn't need to exist. It could have been treated like a Super Luigi U kind of deal. I have a feeling that the real reason Origins existed was because Warner Bros knew that with the kind of development time Rocksteady was requiring they would barely break even.

 

Essentially, Warner Bros basically demanded another game be made so they could keep profiting off the franchise while Rocksteady worked. Origins disgusts me, yet I still want to get it. Guess I'm a Batman fanboy.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:36 PM

So let's milk the franchise and come up with a new Batman game every year. I think this trend is getting tiresome.

 

me personally thats why I dont care that it is not coming to Wii U.  i will get the blackgate up port though



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 08:31 PM

I thought origins was a good game. Not great like asylum. Or city. But good.

I would have gone crazy without origins to fill the gap somewhat.

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:43 PM

Origins is a great game. 

 

Started out slow but when The Joker got revealed to be the main villain, all hell broke loose. I loved the fights with Bane too. 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 12:03 AM

Origins is a great game. 

 

Started out slow but when The Joker got revealed to be the main villain, all hell broke loose. I loved the fights with Bane too. 

Well thanks for those spoilers :/

 

Anyway I'm enjoying Origins a lot. I think it's a great game. My only problem with it is it's a little buggy. But the bugs aren't even that bad.


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 01:07 AM

3 years isn't long. the time in between smash games has been longer than that each time.


It's long for a series like Batman. They obviously want to take advantage of the series since it was successful.

I'm wondering if next year Wii U will get it's own port from Montreal. Rocksteady hasn't made a Wii U game, and since it was so huge, maybe that's why they skipped the console.
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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:25 AM

me personally thats why I dont care that it is not coming to Wii U. i will get the blackgate up port though

Um.. rocksteady is the developer who doesn't want to milk the franchise, but make a quality statement for gaming. I'm about 80% sure the only way Warner Bros was ok with Rocksteady making Arkham Knight was because Origins gave them money to profit on while they waited. Since this was the only way they could make their game, they had to agree to Warner Bros. terms. Rocksteady is one of the few truly innovative studios who has a track record as flawless as Retro Studios (well, since Asylum at least) and I will be buying a next gen console to support what will be the first true statement of next gen gaming.

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 02:11 PM

Eh, doesn't really feel like a milking though.


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 03:18 PM

It's long for a series like Batman. They obviously want to take advantage of the series since it was successful.

I'm wondering if next year Wii U will get it's own port from Montreal. Rocksteady hasn't made a Wii U game, and since it was so huge, maybe that's why they skipped the console.

How is 3 years different for an arkham game compared to a Smash game?


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 04:12 PM

How is 3 years different for an arkham game compared to a Smash game?


Batman is a game that you'd expect to have a game every year, like other major franchises. But Smash gets one game a generation. That's what we expect, anyway.
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Posted 07 March 2014 - 01:55 PM

Um.. rocksteady is the developer who doesn't want to milk the franchise, but make a quality statement for gaming. I'm about 80% sure the only way Warner Bros was ok with Rocksteady making Arkham Knight was because Origins gave them money to profit on while they waited. Since this was the only way they could make their game, they had to agree to Warner Bros. terms. Rocksteady is one of the few truly innovative studios who has a track record as flawless as Retro Studios (well, since Asylum at least) and I will be buying a next gen console to support what will be the first true statement of next gen gaming.

 

Good for you. To each his own. 



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 05:19 PM

Batman is a game that you'd expect to have a game every year, like other major franchises. But Smash gets one game a generation. That's what we expect, anyway.

But there were only two games out... with two years between the releases. How is it a game you'd "expect" once a year? Game frequency expectations rely completely on the publishers and developers. we expect smash once a generation because Nintendo always releases smash once a generation.


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