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Wii U full power against PS4&720
#1
Guest_TRON_*
Posted 25 June 2012 - 03:31 AM
The PSP uses two 333 MHz MIPS32 R4000-based CPUs, a GPU with 2 MB onboard VRAM running at 166 MHz, and includes 32 MB main RAM and 4 MB embedded DRAM in total.[4] The hardware was originally forced to run more slowly than it was capable of and most games ran at 222 MHz.[136] However, with firmware update 3.50 on May 31, 2007, Sony removed this limit and allowed new games to run at a full 333 MHz.[137]
so with this knowledge here is the wiki page for the (what we believe Wii U to have power 7) power 7 CPU. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER7 for those that dont want to read the cpu runs 3.0 – 4.25 GHz clock speed.
is it possible for nintendo to underclock the cpu at first to 3.0GHZ and then when the more powerful ps4 and 720 launch and they need more power to run next gen engines they release a firmware or something of that effect to keep up? is this something easily done or something that would be a hassle and financial hardship to do which we know nintendo wouldnt do. sorry for any spelling error i was kinda rushing to get this out.
#2
Posted 25 June 2012 - 03:40 AM
All it would require to change this is a simple system update.
#3
Posted 25 June 2012 - 03:55 AM
#4
Posted 25 June 2012 - 04:20 AM
Edited by Orion, 25 June 2012 - 04:22 AM.
#5
Posted 25 June 2012 - 04:37 AM
#6
Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:10 AM
The nextbox will probably have a 6-core POWER7 with 4 threads a core, this would make it (in total) four times the power of the 360) However dedicating two cores to the kinect2 and other future peripherals. This would allow all 4 remaining cores dedicated completely to the games. Where the Wii U is in my opinion likely to be running a 4 core processor with 3 threads a core, being twice the power of the 360, but sharing those threads for the OS and controller system and future peripherals.
I reckon the GPU of the nextbox will be 4x the 360, whereas the Wii U (again in my opinion) will be around twice the power of the 360. It still gives a significant leap, but not enough for it to be such a leap where the Wii U will be left in the dust.
The same with RAM. I *think* the Wii U will have 2GB RAM with 512mb dedicated to the OS. Where the nextbox I reckon will have 4GB, with an unknown amount dedicated to the OS.
As far as PS4 will go I'm not sure. There are too man rumours, Sony are too scared to show anything indicating a PS4 being even near ready, they wont even show off a tech demo. Recently Sony have said they wont release anything until they can show a significant leap. So the PS4 is totally a wildcard
Edited by Penguin101, 25 June 2012 - 05:13 AM.
#7
Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:31 AM
They can just send an update that changes the BIOS setting to whatever clock they want.
#8
Guest_TRON_*
Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:41 AM
Yes it's easy to do.
They can just send an update that changes the BIOS setting to whatever clock they want.
Good to know
I can only hope this is the case
#9
Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:23 AM
Xbox 720 will not have a POWER7 if that leak Doc is true. It will have an ARM or AMD x86. It seems to me they haven't decided what company to go with.
#10
Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_32XFirst off, we all know it's not possible for them to magically add in any new parts to the console. That being said, they could in fact release it under clocked and then bring it up later if they want to. The 3DS actually had/has the same thing, where Nintendo supposedly only had half of its processing power in use (Read this a long time ago).
All it would require to change this is a simple system update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_CD
They unlocked a core on the 3DS.
I don't think this sort of thing is beneficial, but it could be done.
I mean, the original plan for Nintendo was for one core of the 3DS to be used solely for the menu etc., but I guess when third parties asked for more power Nintendo just unlocked it for them.
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#11
Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:36 PM
#12
Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:55 AM
One of the biggest problems with 360ps3 was the small 512mb RAM. Whilst WiiU will have a nice 1GB ish amound of RAM, in the future when ps4720 comes out; it'd be good to see an upgrade. 2-4 gb perhaps.
Obviously it doesn't seem like they're doing this. No rumours or speculation; so can anyone answer my why this would not be viable? Did the N64 memory expansion teach Nintendo a hard lesson?
#13
Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:38 AM
All I have to say is if they didn't future proof the Wii U to compete with the PS4 and 720 than I will be mad, I don't understand why Nintendo is so scared to spend money,
Its not that they are afraid to spend money. I am sure developing the Gamepad cost an arm and a leg. But Nintendo will always favor gameplay over graphics.
And we must remember Nintendo wants to keep the Wii U affordable. Unlike Sony and Microsoft, whi makes money from other products, Nintendo is a gaming company only. They can't sell at a loss.
#14
Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:15 PM
people need a reallity check move flopped theres no innovation at sony a dualshock and a ps4 = A MASSIVE FLOP
#15
Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:29 PM
a pointless thread they would all be close in this day and age sateration point has been reached MEANINGLESS and please tell me were bankrupt sony gets the money to pay for this a new console alone would finish sony
people need a reallity check move flopped theres no innovation at sony a dualshock and a ps4 = A MASSIVE FLOP
Please use some punctuation.
#16
Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:45 PM
a company with a total fail motion controller a 3 gen old standard controller nothing new to offer us,, so a slightly more powerful box with ps4 on it and a dualshock IF SONY IS THAT STUPID THEN WELCOME TO SEGA LAND AT THE TIME OF THE DREAMCAST = DEATH
SOME FACT TO CHEW ON if x720/ps4 has no wm+ or better it isnt next gen, if it doesnt match or better the dualscreen offered by wiiu gamepad it isnt next gen, just as psvita is not next gen it lacks all the things outside of processors the things needs to be next gen
psvita is sonys second handheld in a row not competing with DS family theres no dual screen or touch screen psp ... theres no dual screen or 3D psvita and the touchscren is phone like not GAMING TACTILE LIKE in design so in REALITY psvita apart from power is 2 GENS BEHIND
ps4 will not have anything on par with wm+ it will have nothing on par with wiiu gamepad and kinect and xpad cannot offer anything like the wiiu gamepad experience or the wm+ and mouse pointer experience
yet 3DS offers everything a psvita offers and wiiu supports a classic pad pro so how can any other company compete the answer is simply they cannot AND THATS WHY THE INDUSTRY IS TRYING TO IDIOT US ALL WITH TABLETS AND SMARTGLASS AND PHONES
nintendo has won what remains of sony and ms is dieing soldiers on the battle field they will die the wunded will return home THE WAR IS OVER sony and ms and the industry just wont admit it
smartglass sorry more like ass gas the things a gimmick
something else i pondered THE RAM gamecube had custom fast 1t sram and very slow dram wii had custom fast 1t sram and half desent gddr3 dram
so wiiu has edram and edram level 2 catch MAYBE but is the main ram 1 pool or 2 and is 1 of them FAST RAM LIKE 1T SRAM OR FC RAM OR EVEN IBM EDRAM ACTING AS MAIN RAM LIKE GC/Wii did with 1t sram
Edited by silverismoney, 26 June 2012 - 06:48 PM.
#17
Posted 27 June 2012 - 03:20 AM
I more than agree with you with most of what you say. I believe sony will do some type of vita-ps3 crossover controller. Not sure what Microsoft will do, seems they want to follow the kinect route. If they don't follow the touchscreen controller route, they're going to loose out. I presume these companies can get around the patents that Nintendo have on such devices. Sony would not let themselves go bankrupt in the game consoles department, they're way to big of a company to let that happen.
And for the kind benefit of others, if you use punctuation, we can all read what you are saying without having to decode it. I seriously have to read over what you have written far too many times to understand your statement (putting me and probably others off your comments). So to keep the interest and response levels high and correct in what you're saying, help us all out and tell us when to breath. The funniest part of your response: "i clearly know what im saying so stop changing the subject to grammar the subject is wiiu etc," - well you do know what you are saying yes, because you are you and you wrote it. Communicating the right feelings and meaning to others correctly, can save a lot of time and energy. You will get plenty of misinterpreted responses, and arguements going the wrong direction when you're not clear.
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#18
Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:34 PM
Gaming helmet from Microsoft proberly.Silverismoney,
I more than agree with you with most of what you say. I believe sony will do some type of vita-ps3 crossover controller. Not sure what Microsoft will do, seems they want to follow the kinect route. If they don't follow the touchscreen controller route, they're going to loose out. I presume these companies can get around the patents that Nintendo have on such devices. Sony would not let themselves go bankrupt in the game consoles department, they're way to big of a company to let that happen.
And for the kind benefit of others, if you use punctuation, we can all read what you are saying without having to decode it. I seriously have to read over what you have written far too many times to understand your statement (putting me and probably others off your comments). So to keep the interest and response levels high and correct in what you're saying, help us all out and tell us when to breath. The funniest part of your response: "i clearly know what im saying so stop changing the subject to grammar the subject is wiiu etc," - well you do know what you are saying yes, because you are you and you wrote it. Communicating the right feelings and meaning to others correctly, can save a lot of time and energy. You will get plenty of misinterpreted responses, and arguements going the wrong direction when you're not clear.
#19
Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:40 PM
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#20
Posted 27 June 2012 - 02:23 PM
there might be small improvements made but aside from just better software game engines, there should'nt be anything more than a 30% boost in its lifetime
That assertation is in sharp contrast to every console ever made.
Even the nes improved dramatically more than 30% in its lifetime.
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