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Medu

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#109613 New confirmation by IBM of custom 45nm Power7 chip

Posted by Medu on 18 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

LMFAO Chris Nay (guy on the official ibm twitter feed, who keeps confirming p7 over and over and over and over) Is one of ibm's lead research and communications engineers.

Its over kid.

Your crappy 476 processor isn't in the wiii u, thank god.


There is nothing wrong with a 476, especially a custom one.

One of the few things that we know about the Wii U hardware is that it consumes 45watts. Take away 10 watts for ram/mobo/disk drive and that leaves 35watts for the CPU/GPU. This will probably leave at most 10 watts for the CPU, or 3.33watts per core. Now an 8 core Power 7 chip uses 200-250watts, or 28watts per core. A 476 uses 1.6watts at 1.6Ghz. So either IBM scaled the 476 to be a bit more powerful, or scaled the the Power7 chip down massively(and probably made it more similar to 476 than a tradional Power7 chip).
So in the end we are probably going to see chip that is a mixture of both a 470 design and a Power7.
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#52525 Wii U Price Discussion

Posted by Medu on 08 January 2012 - 07:20 AM

Wii U will not be competing with the PS360 consoles. For the love of god get that through your skull right now. We're not completely certain on the consoles capabilities, but enough points towards it being a arguably significant upgrade over the current HD consoles. The Wii U's competition isn't out yet nor are they in the public mindshare yet. No doubt Microsoft's and Sony's next consoles will be more powerful, but if your expecting truly night and day differences your going to be disappointed.


Of course it will be competing with the PS360- those are the consoles that it will be in direct competition with for at least the first ~12 months of it's life. Nearly all the 3rd party games that have been announced are PS360 ports(Darksiders II, Dirt, Batman, NG3 etc). The Dreamcast had to compete with the PS before the PS2 was released and struggled to make any inroads because of how competitively priced the PS was even though it was a great machine.


#47219 Wii U Price Discussion

Posted by Medu on 13 December 2011 - 02:06 AM

Guys, that's not how hardware pricing works.

As I said earlier, designing chips is expensive, make them isn't. The chips in the Wii U will modified AMD/IBM chips, not new chips that were $500m each to R&D. Take the 5750 GFX card, it has a 170mm2 chip inside it. A TSMC wafer costs between $5000-6000. AMD get 370 chips off that wafer with maybe 85% yields, so 315 working chips. That puts the price of a chip at a maximum of $19- but it's unlikely that Nintendo will go for the 5750 chip and the cost of 40nm wafer's will probably drop sharply over the next few months as all AMD/NV chips move to 28nm. There are other factors to be included but the final cost will be much closer to the $30 I predicted than $150 for the GPU.

The reason the PS3 was so expensive at launch was because it was using far larger chips that had much worse yields+ they also spent hundreds of millions in R&D for the Cell CPU.


#45848 Wii U specs leaked?

Posted by Medu on 08 December 2011 - 12:51 PM

EDRAM not dram IBM-EDRAM the fastest smallest most catch like edram ever created 768mb=96MB 1gb=128MB this leak refers to the “““embedded dram””” EDRAM not ram its a shared level 3 catch for both cpu and gpu

example x360 10MB gpu only/wii 3MB gpu only /psp 2MB gpu only

wiiu if rumors are true 96MB TO 128MB EDRAM CPU-GPU SHARED thats 9x x360 and 2x wii edram COMBINED

that is POWER

it wont be cpu catch it will be a onchip edram pool that cpus and gpus share it wont be a cpu l3 catch it will be a gpu/cpu virtual catch it will act like 1t-sram in wii A ON CHIP FAST RAM this makes me think its not power 7 but 3/4 powerpc cpus


It's highly unlike that the 768Mb/96MB rumour is true, it's overkill. (Unless it's needed to help with ~2 controller screens, but even then it wouldn't need 96MB). If there is truth in the story it's more likely that Nintendo deciding on whether to use 768MB or 1GB for just normal RAM which would tie in with what we have heard about the performance- faster than the Xbox360 but not too much. Quad-core is possible but I agree that it won't be a quad-core Power7 chip. IBM have a number of different cores that could possible be used and some use only a couple of watts each @2GHz. It's just a little confusing as IBM did mention watson but that could of related to anything(such as the edram).


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