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#1 Auzzie Wingman

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:33 AM

I think it's time for a new discussion. The previous one was about Resident Evil: The Mercenaries next installment, should it ever occur.

 

This time, it's Final Fantasy... nothing too specific, as the Final Fantasy series has become very broad and far from it's JRPG heritage. Even though it may have come off that Final Fantasy was a series transferred to the Playstation brand, it takes you 5 minutes to realise that no, that's not the case at all.

 

So for this discussion, we talk about Final Fantasy's future on the 3DS and/or Wii U. This is obviously the General Gaming section, so just note whatever I have to say has those two consoles in mind.

 

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Installments

 

I wanted to start off first by identifying how diverse the range actually is. It started off with the mainline series. Basically add the next number (in ROOOOOMAN NUMARALLS) to the next title. Basic, simple. Without getting to much into the history of everything, you also have:

 

* The Main Series - These are straight up numbered titles. Some also have spinoffs.

** Final Fantasy 7 - It has expanded into a number of titles in its' own universe.

** Fabula Nova Crystallis - Set in the universe of Final Fantasy XIII

 

* Tactics Series - If you've played Fire Emblem before, you know what these titles were like.

** Ivalice Series - Final Fantasy XII's universe is intertwined with the Tactics series, in the world known as Ivalice.

 

* Crystal Chronicles - An action RPG strand of Final Fantasy. Sometimes referred to as the Nintendo Final Fantasy, as all the titles in its' particular universe have only ever been on Nintendo products, and may highly likely have a new entry on the Wii U.

 

* Dissidia Series - Oh PWN love me. Dissidia pits main characters from the Main series of titles against each other in a battle of Heaven VS Hell. I feel like saying Theatrhythm here for some reason, perhaps of the crossoverness. That said, I kinda need to say KH cameoship too.

 

* Chocobo Series - Titles that usually feature the Final Fantasy creature Chocobo as a central figure. As for the actual type of these games, it seems to have covered dungeon crawling, racing and mission mode styled adventuring.

 

There are others, but I'm not too fluent with those, including the Chocobo series but I have my reason for it being mentioned.

 

 

Speculations

 

Given the diversity of the topic, I can't narrow down on things like I did in the Resident Evil topic. I can probably roll some punches out on possible hits, and potentially create discussions from them.

 

* Final Fantasy XV - Way back when, people were coming up with what they thought would hit the Wii U, before game listings were officially announced. One of those titles that seemed to be on everyone's list was Final Fantasy XV. Now, I'm not sure if it exists, or what would be central to it, or even how the combat would work out. The only thing I could say for sure are things like chocobos. There's nothing more to say on this.

 

* Crystal Chronicles - This needs to be said. No, it's not my favourite in the Final Fantasy brand, but it is the Nintendo one I guess. I never had the privilege of playing the original on GameCube, but I have played Ring of Fates, The Crystal Bearers and the two eShop spinoffs. To me, the series as a whole feels like Dark Cloud with a jump button. I like it, and it has the room to turn into an expansive game. I feel like there's a sensibility for mass management options in this universe, and a touch screen on either console to make it work.

 

It just can't afford to have obnoxious characters like Belle in them ever again.

 

* Ivalice - Perhaps my favourite strand of the entire brand. Hey, that rhymes! The job system has always had an appeal to me as a player. Although I think it was better in Final Fantasy V, where you could switch in between short battles, as opposed to the length of a SRPG battle. Perhaps they could implement a quick switcher, allowing you to change roles at the cost of a turn.

 

It, of course, could lend itself once again to the semi-active gameplay present in the FFXII titles. Perhaps a fusion of the two?

 

* Dissidia - Crossovers have always been a thing that I have liked. Fighting games often make the best examples thereof. Blasphemous or not, I'd love to see characters from the other parts of the Final Fantasy range included in the game as playable. Also, Adrammelech in Monster Hunter wat.

 

* Final Fantasy Fables - These games are actually really fun. The DS game combined card games with mini-games instead of being a boring card game or a boring mini-game game. The Wii game caught me off guard at times with the dungeon crawling, and has my favourite Battle on the Big Bridge rendition. I think something of Lego City tier interest could come from it.

 

* Main Series - Almost let this slip. Remember that upgrade treatment FFIII and FFIV got for the DS? And the rumour (or was it expectation) about the possiblity of the same treatment for FFV and FFVI on 3DS? Yes.

 

Yeah, I just said that.

 

I haven't got more to add to those, so that'll do for now. I guess you guys and gals can discuss the things you'd like to see in a 3DS/ Wii U Final Fantasy title. Keep in mind, that there is a Chocobo Racing 3D game in the works (if it hasn't cancelled) and there was always Square Enix listening to thought of a HD Collection for Wii U (which would probably worm it's way to the PS3/Xbox 360/PS4/Mango).

 

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Feel free to post what you wish for in terms of Final Fantasy coming to the 3DS, Wii U or whatever have you. As usual, this is supposed to be a mature discussion between gamers, so no trolling each other.


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#2 lucario23

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:33 AM

Crystal chronicles on gamecube is by far the best one. I have played Ring of Fates, Echoes of Time, and Crystal Bearers as well as the gamecube one. I like the gamecube one the best and think they should do an enhanced port of that to wii u/ 3ds monster hunter 3 style. It would be a shut up and take my money situation for me I would also like to see a true seqel to that game that has similar, but more refined gameplay mechanics. As for the other final fantasy stuff, never played it simply because I have never been exposed to it. 



#3 Cozmo

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:21 PM

the reason they called it "final" fantasy bc it was supposed to be their last game but since it was such a big hit, they made more. unless they make a bunch in a row of the main final fantasies that bomb, then no, i dont think they will stop. at leas not for a long time. 

 

if anyone knows any games that hironobu sakaguchi worked on and if you know any that had nobu uematsu doing the music for his games, i would like to kno :) i kno he worked on 8 and the last story and i think 7 and 9. 



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:40 PM

If SqareEnix keeps making terrible business decisions, then XIII-2 will be their LAST Final Fantasy.

 

*EDIT* Changed my mistake. It's XIII-2, not XII-2.

 

Silly me.


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#5 Cozmo

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:42 PM

If SqareEnix keeps making terrible business decisions, then XII-2 will be their LAST Final Fantasy.

 

i think you meant XIII-2 lol and arent they on like 15 or 16 now?



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:19 PM

Did I say XII-2?

 

Whoops.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:25 PM

If SqareEnix keeps making terrible business decisions, then XII-2 will be their LAST Final Fantasy.

 

It seems their new president plans to review the company and make some changes along the way. Hopefully, this will lead to better things on their end.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:30 PM

FF15 may be the final time we'll see a FF game since all the crap they are getting, there is no chance in hell we'll see Square make an official FF game on a Nintendo console,  while i think the team that made KH & TWEWY will continue on Nintendo systems since they do really well.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:06 PM

Juat wanna put this out there, but The Last Story was a better Final Fantasy than Final Fantasy has been in a decade. Use the mechanics of that game with likable characters and a fairly straightforward (but not too simple) plot on FF13's engine and you're gold.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:20 PM

No, it's false advertising...Like the Neverending Story.

 

Serious Final Fantasy sucks, admittedly it was good on a Nintendo console, but almost since they moved to Playstation it's sucked balls, the extra space a CD drive gave really just made the designers blurt out a load of crap and keep it on there, rather than trimming it back.

 

FFVII was a great start

 

FFVIII was a terrible game 

 

FFIX - My god this was amazing, really captured the old Nintendo charm, shame it's not really remembered :(

 

FFX onwards, poop, poop, poop and even more poop

 

Xenoblade Chronicles is where the parties at now!


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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:07 AM

I'm pretty sure Deus Ex Hjman Revolution confirmed that there will be a Final Fantasy XXIII

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