Good to see someone knowledgeable about tech on this board.

I'm no techie, but I know a few things and understood everything you said.

The only thing is you forgot to take price into consideration. Nintendo will not sell at a loss.

From all the rumours we've received so far, I'm expecting one of the high end 4000s (maybe a 4850) that is customized with features of the 5000s (like better tessellation). It would be nice if Nintendo made it support DirectX11 features instead of Direct X 10.1.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be something like a customized 5770 but I'm leaning towards a 4850/4890 right now.

Nintendo themselves at E3 said they are aiming to make the console right for all types of gamers. From hardcore to casual.

So I say that's what it will be.

I am deadly afraid of centipedes.

I'm not afraid of all spiders, but man, that one in the picture above would have given me a heart attack. Just look at all its' babies! *Shudders*

It's not their most popular franchise but I want Battalion Wars 3.

Also, F-Zero, Pikmin 3 or StarFox would be nice.

Looks sweet.

Welcome.

This is the longest introduction thread so far (2 pages).
Quite an entrance.

I'll start using the Wii 2 board sig on other forums when the Wii 2 internet hype starts up.
(E3 2011 babe!)

I respect your point, but I really gotta disagree with you on this one... the 1st party content appeals to a certain type of gamer (mostly, the kind that was perfectly happy with the Wii, as well), but not to the audience of gamers currently on other systems, or about ready to go to other systems - both those that have left the Wii because they felt it ignored them, and those that never took Nintendo seriously in the first place.

The real problem is this. With the much lower install base of a newly launched system, and the recent memory of abysmally low sales for 3rd party games on the Wii, developers will, naturally, be hesitant to make anything truly original for the WiiU. 3rd parties need either big sales numbers or big Nintendo support to justify design risks. If all that the WiiU gets from 3rd parties is bland ports of games available on other systems, the WiiU may be looking at a repeat of the Wii situation, where 3rd party support evaporates and Nintendo is left with the only content on the system. Cross-platform games are okay... but they don't help the system itself succeed if there's no wide install base to buy them.

This is what Nintendo needs the 3rd party exclusives for. 3rd party exclusives draw wider ranges of new people to a system - get them in the door - and that allows all cross-platform games to sell well. If you can make a Sony fanboy break down and buy a WiiU for those two or three cool exclusives (like I bought an Xbox for Mass Effect and Gears of War), then you've got them for the cross-platforms, too. If you don't have them, then the cross-platforms don't sell at all.

The people who are all OMG'ing for a new Animal Crossing are NOT the same ones obsessing over the latest COD zombie mode DLC. The difference makes a big difference in a systems financial viability...

This man speaks the truth.

Nintendo needs 3rd party exclusives to get a healthy install base of non-Nintendo gamers on the system.
Then 3rd parties will NOT be able to ignore the console.

Well, so far they have Killer Freaks and Ubisoft which is exclusive to their console (also on PC).

Didn't Ubisoft say they are making a different Assassin's Creed for Wii U or something?

Hopefully they will have one or two more before the console launches. People have been speculating on the possibility of Time Splitters 4 as exclusive.

Before I get started, let me just make a few things clear. Everything I'm about to say is of course, speculation. I'm going off the assumption that the Wii U is indeed using a 4870 GPU and the Xbox 720 (or NextBox) is using a 6670. So I'm not trying to say "awesome look 100% comfirmed OMGZ" or anything like that lol. Again, this is all in-theory.

Also, I know, graphics aren't everything, but really we're all interested in the exact amount of power the Wii U will be packing. So this is just something to think about.

Now Epic recently came out and said that the Samaritan demo can be ran on hardware 10x more powerful than the 360. According to IGN's reports, the NextBox is 6x more powerful than the 360.

As I'm sure most of you have found out, the Wii U GPU, the 4870, is roughly 2x more powerful than the 6670 supposedly being used in the NextBox. In this case, that would mean that GPU-wise, the Wii U is 12x more powerful than the 360.


4870

Memory Bandwidth: 115.2 GB/sec
FLOPS: 1200 GFLOPS
Pixel Fill Rate: 12000 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 30000 MTexels/sec

6670

Memory Bandwidth: 64 GB/sec
FLOPS: 768 GFLOPS
Pixel Fill Rate: 6400 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 19200 MTexels/sec


So Epic has said that it takes 10 360 to run that demo in native 1080p, and if these rumors are true, the Wii U ends up over-achieving that number being 12x more powerful than the 360.

So in-theory, the Wii U might actually be able the Samaritan demo technology in 1080p. It's just something I realize and it's a pretty fun topic to speculate on. I wanna know what you guys think.

Dude....what....

A 4870 would NOT make Wii U 12x more powerful than 360! A 12x jump expectation for WIi U is completely unrealistic! It's even unrealistic for PS4/720.

See that? It takes a GPU with 2.5 TFLOPS to run Samaritan at 1080p 30fps.

We'd be lucky to get such GPUs from even PS4/720 in 2013.

It takes 4.4 times the power of 360 to run Samaritan in 720p and since PS4 & 720 will be no doubt be more powerful than that when they launch in 2013 (expecting 6 -8 x more pwoerful) they can run Samaritan at 720p all effects.

Wii U is expected to be 3 - 5x 360, so either it can run it at 720p reduced effects or sub-hd.

Don't get people's hopes up with false information.

No. They cannot make it like the 3DS. The 3DS has a small screen that has the tech for glasses-less 3D.
They can't do that unless they start selling TVs or screen cover thingies with the console, and that's sure as hell not going to happen.
glasses-less TVs are coming soon but they won't be mainstream for a while.
The console will support 3D (like wii and GC) but it won't be one of the selling points they market it on.

Here is my latest Nintendo creation called the nStream Controller. It is based on many of the rumors surrounding the successor to the Wii and is formally inspired by the visor of Samus.
Any feedback would be appreciated as I'll continue to develop the design over time.

Jade.

Looks nice.
I wouldn't be surprised if the real thing turned out kind of differently than these mockups though. Few people got close to the Wiimote and nunchuk with their mock-ups.

Pics after pics of DA controllers.
I want Wiimote and Nunchuk!

Word is that Nintendo is working on getting the system ready for 2 tablet gameplay by launch and I think that is very much possible.

I could only see four tablet multiplayer gameplay working if the game isn't graphics-intensive.

But what would be the point of buying 4 tablets when you could just play multiplayer with wii remotes though?

I'm leaning towards two tablets at most.

I dont really care tbh. To me the Wii U controller is just a bonus thing. As long as they keep supporting WiiMote/ Nunchuk combo I dont mind. Im not getting the Wii U for the controller, Im getting it for the games.

But the new controller is what will bring alot of new gameplay possibilities to the console.

Welcome.
And stay away from me if you are contagious.

Everything you said except 512-1GB RAM. Less that 1 gig of RAM is NOT ACCEPTABLE NINTENDO!!!

Also, a great online system.

This list was deemed fake long ago.

Some guy on another forum wrote it.

Nothing important.

Was going to make a 'Wii 2 Announced' April's Fool thread   , but then I remembered we need this site to be a reliable source for information... :cry:

I would really love to know if anyone is gullible enough to pre-order that. I really would.

I can't see SSB being SSB with a whole bunch of Street Fighter Characters in it.

3rd party Characters like Mega Man and such are more suited for the franchise and most of the chars should be from the Nintendo Universe.

Too many 3rd party characters would ruin the game's atmosphere (or whatever) in my opinion.

DAY ONE!...if I have the money...

Oh. OK.

Welcome.